 SP_WriterPremium
join:2002-03-19
Clifton Park, NY | Where I work.... With the new roll-out of XP (Yes, it took this long to get this far....but that my friends, is another story) there will be no IE. Of course it will be there, but hidden from the users. We are going to Firefox. I know, it's only 400 computers. But 100's of hours of our time cleaning out all this damn adware/spyware/malware/scumware.
And MS is going to charge for Giant? What a joke. |
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 jaykaykay4 Ever YoungPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-13
Scottsdale, AZ
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| said by SP_Writer:And MS is going to charge for Giant? What a joke. Using Firefox or any other browser you wish to use is fair game. But what I fail to see in your statement (and many other's as well) as to MS charging for Giant is a reason as to why shouldn't they? Just because they bought another product to get use of it doesn't mean that they should not charge for it. It was a paid for program before MS bought it and I see no reason why the thinking is that MS should integrate it and not charge for it.
I grant you that they haven't cleaned up a lot of issues with their OS that allows for a lot of the junk in the first place but that doesn't mean that they needn't have a good business practice and charge for a product if they can. Yes, there are issues where one might feel that MS should clean up their act first, but obviously, that is not going to happen. Their charging for Giant, while seen as something that given free might have been truly beneficial for everyone, is not the point here as I see it. Their acquisition of the program seems to be one of a good business practice, and as such, is charged for just as is Word and some of the other products they have. |
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SP_WriterPremium
join:2002-03-19
Clifton Park, NY | Because their product, IE, stinks, and is bundled with the OS. Hence, we are forced to have this garbage on our computer and then pay more to block its holes. Next question? |
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| If as a Network Admin for a business you are getting tons of spyware through IE then YOU are doing something wrong.
Very very wrong.
next question? |
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SP_WriterPremium
join:2002-03-19
Clifton Park, NY | Guess your a n00b at all this computer stuff, considering how you don't know jack. |
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| I guess I must be. After all I am not "leet" enough to use stupid words like "n00b", or maybe not ignorant enough?
However I do know how to keep my computers running properly with out spyware and using IE.
You sound like the kind of person who has no life and spends most of his time bashing successful companies. I bet you spend your coffee breaks bitching about MS and Dell instead of fixing the problem and locking down the computers better. |
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
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said by SP_Writer:Guess your a n00b at all this computer stuff, considering how you don't know jack. My school runs over 1,000 computers, yet their biggest problem is users forgetting to "log off". Not "spyware" problems.
When the systems get logged off, anything added (programs, docs), get automatically erased.
If, as a system admin, you spend more time cleaning the systems because of adware and spyware, then you are NOT doing your job.
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said by jaykaykay:I grant you that they haven't cleaned up a lot of issues with their OS that allows for a lot of the junk in the first place but that doesn't mean that they needn't have a good business practice and charge for a product if they can. Yes, there are issues where one might feel that MS should clean up their act first, but obviously, that is not going to happen. Their charging for Giant, while seen as something that given free might have been truly beneficial for everyone, is not the point here as I see it. Their acquisition of the program seems to be one of a good business practice, and as such, is charged for just as is Word and some of the other products they have. You've basically made the argument yourself. It's nothing more than a conflict of interest. The reason this stuff goes on mostly is because the software Microsoft puts out allows it. |
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said by electric_dsl:I guess I must be. After all I am not "leet" enough to use stupid words like "n00b", or maybe not ignorant enough? However I do know how to keep my computers running properly with out spyware and using IE. You sound like the kind of person who has no life and spends most of his time bashing successful companies. I bet you spend your coffee breaks bitching about MS and Dell instead of fixing the problem and locking down the computers better. I think for the first time in awhile I fully agreed with a post you made.
Spyware can't grab hold in a properly secured system. This means not letting users run as even a power user and clearing all temp files at night. It's common practice in a big environment.
If you have software that can't run under xp as a user then the coding needs to be rehashed to find out why. Or hell even allowing just that program to run as a power user would work.
But is not safe. The people writing the software now have to start cleaning up how they do it. Take a chapter from Linux at this point. |
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