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ciryadin

join:2005-08-16
Schenectady, NY
reply to ciryadin

Re: WoW for complete MMORPG beginners

tell me people what do you need in an guild to feel you happy.in my guild is it inportend that everywhan feel happy. but i whanne know what you think whats needed in an guild to feel happy tell me everting thx for helpig


ciryadin

join:2005-08-16
Schenectady, NY

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reply to Descent

you are new in world of warcraft if you want in an guild what most the guild need to feel you happy in the guild tell me you can tell me on the forum or ***through IM*** i thank you all for you help



SixOfNine
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said by justin:

8. don't bother grouping, or duel, at less than level 10 unless you want to be social. It just wastes time.
As I got into the upper half of those first 10 levels (currently a level 8 mage) with some orange quests, grouping became helpful for me, even on collection quests. It's tough as one of the fragile classes to solo on something like a 10-armband quest. With zilch protection you have to skirt the mobs' territory until you can pick one off without attracting a crowd, and that's pretty time-consuming. Better to join a group with some muscle - then I can just hang back a little and blast from a safe distance. At the very least try to duo with a warrior or a paladin at a similar level.

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SixOfNine
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reply to justin

Finally entered WoW this past weekend, trying a human mage first. What a blast! A couple of ultra-noob pointers:

- Try not to fat-finger the 'x' key when you're trying to retreat.

- That first quest to kill 10 kobold vermin? Level 3 kobold workers and warriors are NOT vermin, and they're a lot harder for a level 1 mage to kill.

Brian
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Zyncotl
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reply to Hexley

Re: WoW for complete MMORPG beginners

said by Hexley:

Yep, gray quests give you NO xp.
They give xp, just very very very little. I got 8 xp just last night from a gray.
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Hexley
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reply to Jay_

said by Jay_:

said by Descent:

better to turn in right away, asap. as you go up, the experience points dont go up or down, but the amount required for you to level up does.
The XP DOES goes go down. Hence the color scheme in the quest window. A red quest will give you more exp then a orange quest... which in turn gives you more then Yellow.. etc all the way down to grey.

Always turn in your quests as soon as you finish them. Dont hang on to them.
Yep, gray quests give you NO xp.
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Jay_
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reply to Descent

said by Descent:

better to turn in right away, asap. as you go up, the experience points dont go up or down, but the amount required for you to level up does.
The XP DOES goes go down. Hence the color scheme in the quest window. A red quest will give you more exp then a orange quest... which in turn gives you more then Yellow.. etc all the way down to grey.

Always turn in your quests as soon as you finish them. Dont hang on to them.


skyroket

join:2001-06-11
Colorado, US
reply to DoubleT

said by DoubleT:

Is it better to turn in a quest right away, or can it wait?
It is better to turn it in right away due to the fact that the exp reward you get from it is based on your level relative to the quest level (if you get Cosmos UI (»www.cosmosui.org) it will tell you the level of the quest in your quest log).

For instance, I just turned in a level 6 quest on my 53 Shaman, and I got about 8 exp, whereas, if I was level 6, I might've got about 200. (the quest was for some Slumber Sand, to put mobs to sleep for 20 seconds, and I wanted some on my shaman!!)

Same thing applies for discovery/exploration exp. If you go discover a newbie land when you're level 40 or 50, it will give you like 4 exp. But if you were level 2 or 3, it might give you 30 or 40 exp.

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reply to justin

I use lootlink which is similiar with the auctioneer plug-in to tell me how much it goes for at the AH. Check the plug in thread for more info.
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hsindogg
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reply to tyler00

I use the program "SellValue", which keeps track of how much items sell for. Not all grey items are useless, like Rotting Bear carcasses sell for 1.5s or something. There are other beast items drops that turn up grey, but sell for 5s like the mottled raptor keen tooth.
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tyler00
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reply to justin

As a newbie to WoW, something I'd like to see here would be sort of like a "cash crop" section. It could be for just below lvl 20, but the things that are worth keeping from the monsters you kill, and how much they sell to the vendor for. Like, for example a Dry Scorpid Eye I found sells for over 50 copper for one, meanwhile some like chain piece might only sell for 5 copper. Plus things to pick up when you're lower level to keep in the bank for when you are a higher level? Just a suggestion though!



Dejavu
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reply to eSteve

said by eSteve:

I was under the impression that the amount of XP was the same, but you'd just get less bang for your buck if you turn it in at a higher level (that is based on rumor/hear-say...)

^^^^^^^^^My imression as well.
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eSteve
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reply to DoubleT

I was under the impression that the amount of XP was the same, but you'd just get less bang for your buck if you turn it in at a higher level (that is based on rumor/hear-say...)

Maybe could test it out w/ two different characters of the same level on a couple of the newbie quests?
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Jehu
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reply to DoubleT

said by DoubleT:

I'd ask on the official forums, but the amount of garbage that gets posted on there is unreal, and legitimate questions get brushed aside rather quickly.
If you have any lingering faith in humanity that you don't want to lose, NEVER go the forums of a MMORPG
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DoubleT
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reply to SaNDMaN_

But what if you have 3 quests to turn in, all yellow to you...you turn in the first two and level because of the XP from them. Now that last quest you have to turn in is now a green quest. Would you still get the same amount of XP for the quest that you would have if it had been one of the first two that you turned in?

I guess there's no real way to test that. I'd ask on the official forums, but the amount of garbage that gets posted on there is unreal, and legitimate questions get brushed aside rather quickly.
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SaNDMaN_
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reply to justin

I like doing a shit load of quests from the same area and then turning them all in at the same time...at least that way you might get lucky and not lvl up...at least that way you might not lose any extra exp. if you were a lvl higher.
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reply to justin

Good question, I always thought that even if you completed a quest - if you didnt turn it in but leveled up afterward, the xp reward would go down.

For instance, if you look up a quest on Thott, it will say it gives been X and Y xp. If you completed it at level 10, you may get X but if you wait until 20, you may only get Y.
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justin
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reply to DoubleT

i believe you get the same xp no matter how long you wait to turn it in. Of course if the xp allows you to level up then better use it now to help you in harder quests.



eSteve
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reply to Dejavu

Good stuff... I can never remember the Shift/Ctrl/Alt clicking.



Descent
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reply to justin

better to turn in right away, asap. as you go up, the experience points dont go up or down, but the amount required for you to level up does.
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DoubleT
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reply to justin

I have a question that maybe someone can answer...

Is it better to turn in a quest right away, or can it wait?

For example, say I complete a quest at level 10, but for whatever reason I don't turn it in until level 12. Do I get less experience for turning it in later, even though I completed it 2 levels ago? Or does the 'clock' stop on the quest whenever it was finished and not lose any XP no matter when I turn it in?
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Dejavu
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reply to justin

Borrowed from another site. Some repeats and some good info.

-You can chat with everyone in a zone using /1 or /general
-To reply to someone use /r or just press R
-Alt-up repeats the last thing you said
-You can always train in cooking, fishing and first aid
-In most towns, you can right click on a guard to get directions to NPC's. It will even put a flag on your map so you know exactly where to go!
-You learn new spells every 2 levels
-You get rest experience when you log out in towns and double rest in inns
-Shift right click looks all things on a corpse
-Shift click a person name to see info about them
-Ctrl click to send them a /tell
-Alt click invites to a group
-Shift click an item in chat will link it and can be clicked on to see the info. This works on all channels but general
-/1 is general chat, /2 is trade in capitol cities and /3 is defense channel
-Use the auction house to your advantage. Check it to see what things are selling for than go down by a little bit and always set a buyout for quick selling
-Mining is one of the best gathering skills for money
-To take pictures, hit the button prt scr button. They than go to your screenshot folders and are in .tga format. To see these go to www.irfanview.com
-Its better to get lots of quests and do them all before turning them in
-You can use the mail boxes to send money and items to other players. Mail that is only text, or includes money will be delivered instantly. Mail with items attached takes 1 hour to be delivered. It costs 30 copper to send any message.
-Numlock is autorun
-Alt Z hides your UI
-You can set in keyboard settings to look behind you while running to a key
-When you want to reply to a private /tell after someone else has sent you a tell, use 'Tab' key after hitting 'r' to reply to scroll through all the people that have recently sent you.
-You can hover over blips on your mini map to see what they are
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michaelberea

join:2004-11-30
Desoto, TX
reply to justin

This is an excellent guide, and I appreciate all the work you put into it.

I have only one thing to add. Mine. There is no better way for a new character to make money than by selling copper bars at the auction hall. You should get a buyout of 65 silver for a stack of 20. You can start collecting copper bars at level 1.



hsindogg
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Potomac, MD
reply to justin

I only fish to feed my pet...the fish really do sell for almost nothing.

There are those fish that are used for alchemy like the oily blackfish...but I'm not sure how much they sell for at the AH.

I dunno....I like to fish IRL so it just stimulates another part of my passion for WoW. I like to take a nice break from trekking over 42154325436 zones for 1 stupid quest...pull out the rod, grab a snack (at my computer desk), and macro away.
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reply to Aqualung6

A lot of people think that fishing has been nerfed to the point of uselessness. At least if you are fishing, you are not minding wasting time. The fish don't sell for much and so their main use is for cooking.

And what I meant with the color thing is: of course if I'm putting something into /2 using shift click, it is usually a green item.. but it doesn't come up as a clickable link in my chat window (or any color at all). But other people when they insert item descriptions, they come up fine.



Aqualung6
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join:2001-07-02
Lincoln, NE
reply to justin

said by justin:

when you shift click an item to spam it to /2 Trade, do you see the green link? inserting details works ok for me, but when I see my own chat line, it doesn't come up as linkable object.
Er, I think the link color actually matches the 'rarity value' of the object... white/grey for common, green for uncommon, blue for rare items, and purple for epic. All items are color-coded in this way. Auctioning green items in the AH can be hit-or miss depending on server economy. All pretty good advice... although you didn't include much on professions.

It's best to start on them early, as alot of the early receipies require drops that become alot more rare at higher levels, as the loot gets 'upgraded' for higher level monsters (meaning you have to go kill non-xp mobs for a while to gather low-level tradeskill components). So while linen is pretty common from level 5-10 monsters, after 15 or so you start seeing alot more wool instead of linen.

Everyone can learn fishing, cooking and first aid, all three of which are pretty useful skills, and the first two are sometimes involved in quests and/or tradeskills. They're pretty useful to have skilled up, especially for melee classes, which can use food to regenerate health faster and bandges to heal themselves.
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Jehu
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reply to Descent

both ways work...either by number or by name.
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Descent
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reply to Jehu

said by Jehu:

you can leave or join any channel using /join or /leave then the channel name. i.e. /leave general
i thought it was to join you do: /join General
and to leave its: /leave 1
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Jehu
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reply to justin

you can leave or join any channel using /join or /leave then the channel name. i.e. /leave general
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