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<title>Skype may cost more in the long run!</title>
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<description><![CDATA[hok posted : The more I upgrade Skype, the more I get a feeling that it is another AOL, MSN and Yahoo! like service, for example, proprietary protocol that will not work with anyone else unless they get paid one way or the other; a basic feature is outstanding that lure the mass then any added feature requires payment such as SkypeIn and voice mail that otherwise can be free from others. To sum up, the only advantage of using Skype is just like people are having AOL; it is easy to get it working, and the sound quality is excellent.<br><br>I have just re-visited &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.freeworlddialup.com/" >www.freeworlddialup.com/</A>. While FWD is not as old as Internet Phone by VocalTec, it is as old as Microsoft NetMeeting. As they have pulver.Communicator now that like Skype and other instant messenger clients should be easy to setup and use. Most importantly, it is using SIP which is the most common protocol for VoIP so it is compatible with most other related software, hardware and service. Consequently, in the long run, the quality of service should be better, and the price should be lower if not free as users are free to switch between any SIP compatible services, software and/or hardware. Nevertheless, it may not be as user friendly as Skype or AOL for a while.<br><SMALL>--<br>FWD#641455 Localize concern(s), localize forum -- <A HREF="http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/losangeles/">Los Angeles/Orange County forum at BROADBANDreports.com</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<title>Re: Skype is nothing but hype...</title>
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<description><![CDATA[ApoDoc posted : I have been using VONAGE for 2 years now. SKYPE sounds unreal. It has the best sound period.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:46:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[usa2k posted : I've never bought into the Skype Hype, but feel for many, it is just what they want.<br><br>For others, maybe this thread will bring them to here and they can really learn of all the options.  I think they've helped make VoIP more mainstream.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:46:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: Skype is nothing but hype...</title>
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<description><![CDATA[roamer1 posted :  <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/291297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=291297');">Igneous1</a>:</SMALL><br><br>skype is MGCP isnt it</DIV>no...Skype has their own proprietary protocol.<br><br>-SC<br><SMALL>--<br>"it seems like all you ever buy is Abercrombie and cell phones" --a friend</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2005 02:41:34 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Test99 posted :  <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/291297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=291297');">Igneous1</a>:</SMALL><br><br>i love to be able to use * with skype<br> </DIV>I have heard that Skype publishes an API.  Haven't looked at it though.<br><SMALL>--<br>Welcome to the 21st century. You'll do fine here. Just don't expect anything to work quite the way it is supposed to...</SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:15:27 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Igneous1 posted : skype is MGCP isnt it]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:05:49 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[vonsen posted :  <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/291297" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=291297');">Igneous1</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR>i love to be able to use * with skype<br> </DIV>You can. Not natively, since it's not even SIP, but you can still feed the analog voicestream into asterisk, the way you would a POTS line.<br><br>--<br><SMALL>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; six stars shy]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:00:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Igneous1 posted : i love to be able to use * with skype]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:50:40 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Well, Simmer911, tell me which software you WOULD recommend.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:43:24 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Sly posted :       <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/1135710" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1135710');">vonsen</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>       <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/956597" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=956597');">Sly</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>WOW! All of these responses and no one mentioned ---> &raquo;<A HREF="http://www" >www</A>.<br> </DIV>What are you a sales rep or something? This thread isn't about the company that you tried to promote in your post. The thread is about skype.<br><br>--<br><SMALL>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; six stars shy<br> </DIV>Said by original poster...<br><br> "<B>any other so called "free" VOIP services I should try.</B> The first one I went with was what I thought...too good to be true."<br><br><STRIKE>You really need to shut up and quit pretending to be a mod. </STRIKE> [/changed mind about wording]  I responded to the original post (unlike others in this thread). I don't work for Stanaphone and if you'd read my review of them you'd see that I don't use them anymore because they lost my account info. <br><br><STRIKE>What the heck is wrong with people?!! This is 2 for 2 today of where I've tried to help someone and instead I get some smart-alek response from someone outside the thread. :huh:]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 13:17:46 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[vonsen posted :  <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/956597" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=956597');">Sly</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR>WOW! All of these responses and no one mentioned ---> &raquo;<A HREF="http://www" >www</A>.<br> </DIV>What are you a sales rep or something? This thread isn't about the company that you tried to promote in your post. The thread is about skype.<br><br>--<br><SMALL>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; six stars shy]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 12:38:10 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Drew4 posted : I just finished a 45 minute Conference Call on Skype, 5 people (Skype imposed limit) Estonia, London, Toronto, San Fran, and San Paulo.  <br><br>It was crystal clear, almost CD quality sound and cost me in this case $1.00 (.025 x 45min. for the cell), as one of the particpants was on his cell.  I was also able to share files in real time, and engage a chat session with all parties while talking.  If this isn't free internet telephony then what is? This is easily a 20.00 phone call, probably more.  No contracts, no monthlies.  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 12:32:37 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Sly posted : WOW! All of these responses and no one mentioned ---> &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.stanaphone.com/" >www.stanaphone.com/</A><br><br>They have free PSTN access as well as free internet calling, plus you can get a free POTS number so that others on LAND systems can call you. :)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 12:16:22 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[vonsen posted :   <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/927362" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=927362');">sipcpe</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR><BR>What if you had a device that could forward your Skype calls out to your local PSTN? eg and ring your mobile when you are out.<br> </DIV>Skype already rings my voip line when there is an incoming skype call. And of course I can make a skype call from my handset, not just the PC, although the latter is really nice when travelling. And I can also access skype or voip from my cell to avoid cellular long distance charges. The hardware is available, just not everyone is aware of it, although with 1.2 million users skype usage is already surpassing vongage + lingo + broadvox + at&t + p8 + VP combined.<br><br>Perhaps one of the incumbent commercial voip operators should talk to skype to see if routing skype calls through their pstn gateways, rather than 'skype out' is attractive. That might make skype a bit more mainstream. It wouldn't take much to leverage skype out in front of the other offerings. It'll be interesting to see if it happens.<br><br>--<br><SMALL>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; six stars shy]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:35:49 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : What is the dream? To cut out all the "Telcos" completely out of the picture and use P2P telephony exclusively? Will this every happen?<br><br>Tek.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 11:20:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[tj008 posted : These coming-to-a-store-near-you products are very exciting.  Any product that gets one away from the computer being on is very important.  Thats why im not much into softphones.<br><br>Here is the problem with Skype and SIP to some point:<br><br>Who among you are trying, dragging, pulling their friends and family to, first of all, get broadband?  Then, are they the same family and friends fighting you tooth and nail in getting any form of voip or skype?  They question you -why do i have to get this or that box? its pretty expensive. or Skype what?<br><br>You can explain FREE only so much until free is not so free - "how much does it cost?" again comes up.<br><br>Its nice to see over a million people using skype.  but I can bet you that those 1 million people are the same ones that are "up" on anything that is new.  Lets see how many people in this world have a computer AND have broadband?  I have found that in my circle of friends and family and the next ring of their family and friends, they are not interested until the technology is easy and is available at costco, walmart, target and the like.  And then its like they found "manna from heaven".  :)<br><br>So, for me, voip is the way to go.  saves me money as i talk to the bone-heads of my world!   :D:D<br><br>  <br><br> ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[sipcpe posted : What if you had a device that could forward your Skype calls out to your local PSTN? eg and ring your mobile when you are out. <br><br>What if you had a GSM/Wifi cell phone with embedded skype client so you could make/receive your skype calls from hotspot while traveling in airports, etc?<br><br>What if you had a cordless/skype combo phone so you could roam around the house with your cordless handset and see your skype contacts status on the handset and make and receive your skype and pstn calls from the one cordless handset.<br><br>Would any of the above products (all coming soon eg a Vtech USB 7100 in your local Walmart Store $150 with two handsets)change the value propositition for Skype verse Sip softphone?<br><br>The point is Skype is doing one thing for sure better than all the SIP softphone companies. They have a free open API for third party hardware developers.  Personally I believe all thing equal (voice quality, bandwidth, etc) this alone (open API) may very well drive Skype way ahead of the rest very soon. The Taiwan hardware developers are working overtime developing devices for Skype so you will no longer be tied to your computer to use it. I am afraid the SIP softphone guys have already missed the boat. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2005 08:49:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Yeah, anytime someone puts out a great program for free that is really a super-duper wonderful and excellent thing! Skype is a fantastic program, and the fact that so many people love it is proof that it is.<br><br>Due to the arrival of free calling with VoIP services in the U.S. the use of Skype here is not such a very big bargain anymore. You can't compete with free calling after all.<br><br>International is another story. The VoIP still charge something for international although some countries are very cheap. Still that's not free.<br><br>Unfortunately in some countries like South-Africa the dialup/internet rates are so high, that telephony programs are useless because it costs so much for just a local phone call to the ISP.<br><br>To open up the world there must be some sort of cheap satellite hookup that anyone can deploy from inside their home :-).<br><br>Tek.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[geister posted :  <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/1139257" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1139257');">Simmer911</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR>Well I have seen people talk about some "free" VOIP services online and this is one I have heard a lot about. So I download it and try to make a call. Apparently it is free only to other Skype users but you have to buy credits to call anyone who does not use Skype. <br>It blatently says it is free internet telephony...well free to other users of thier product I guess....any other so called "free" VOIP services I should try. The first one I went with was what I thought...too good to be true.<br> </DIV>Here is a perfect example of "you cannot please everyone!." Skype is free. Software is free and so are the calls using Skype. When was the last time anyone pumped out such a great program at the price they provide it? (WHICH IS FREE) I seriously think that people like Simmer911 should refrain from posting messages at the expense of sounding like and idiot. Skype functions like a communication suite with file transfer, instant messaging and voice communication capabilities. While doing all this, it uses a really strong encryption too. Works from behind firewall with no problems. If you think that is a small feat, please be quiet. Yeah they may charge some money for added functionality. But hey... even programmers gotta eat too!]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2005 11:38:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[blacksurfer posted : I LOVE SKYPE!!!  If you make alot of international calls to your family in far off countries and pay alot per minute, then Skype is a godsend!  Other voice chat programs such as MSN were easily blocked by ISPs, but Skype calls go thru, are clear, and are FREE!  We talk for hours free to Belize every month!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[z0n3 posted : sorry folks - my last post went out under the wrong subject heading. It was, off course, about Skype]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[z0n3 posted : Skype uses P2P (peer to peer) technology and not VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol). For the user this difference is quickly evident if you try to set up behind a harware firewall / router that uses NAT ( Network address translation). Programs such as MSN Messenger may have considerable problems with audio behind the NAT - Skype on the other hand is quick to set up, has encrypted audio, and excellent sound quality - especially if your sound card is full duplex. It's not a lot of effort to get your friends to install skype (installation is simple enough even for technophobes). All you need other than that is a microphone (better still a combo mic. and headphones and you're hands free)  The computer to desktop-phone does cost something but it's peanuts compared to long distance (continent to continent) rates via POTS.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2005 05:36:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Birds0 posted : One thing to keep in mind about Skype is that you are basically lending your bandwidth and computer to all the other Skype users on the net, letting them route their traffic through you.<br><br>If you block Skype at certain levels in your personal firewall you will see the firewall log fill up with in-coming connections from around the world.  This takes place if you use either IM or VOIP.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2005 01:58:25 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Simmer911 posted : wow this thread is still going...I had no idea it would cause so a stir...<br><SMALL>--<br><B>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.talkaboutvoip.com" >www.talkaboutvoip.com</A><B></SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Well, I was previously pretty fascinated by these "Internet Calling" programs, but after getting SunRocket today, at $199 unlimited calling for the year, and hearing the quality being superior to my Verizon POTS, I don't see much value in these programs, except for calling people overseas who are also online, and even then, the SunRocket international prices and the $3 free per month, even make that kind of questionable... Talking on the phone has finally reached the next century...<br><br>TELCOS--Better hurry up and get those fiber optics to your customers or you'll be outta business in favor of the cable co.'s<br><br>Tek.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jonbo298 posted : Free INTERNET Telephony. Catch those key words there? No where does it say Free Phone Calls (as your not using a phone to call someone ;) )]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[vonsen posted : The thread that wouldn't die<br><br>--<br><SMALL>Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[craigsn posted : Well, it is for me. Maybe not you though.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[sgarrand posted : They are compatible in the sense that the Pulver Communicator and Skype allow IMing between each other. As of right now it's not a voice connection.<br><br>Scott]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Test99 posted :  <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/143607" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=143607');">Elcabong</a>:</SMALL><br><br>HAve'nt any of you heard of FreeWorlddialup.com? Or Pulver.com? It offers the same thing and is compatible with skype<br> </DIV>Sure we have heard of FWD.  I don't propose it as a solution anymore because it is down too often. And at least for non-technical people, Skype seems to be easier to set up.<br><br>FWD and Skype compatible?  I don't think so, unless you are reporting breaking news.  Skype is not SIP-compatible.<br><SMALL>--<br>Welcome to the 21st century. You'll do fine here. Just don't expect anything to work quite the way it is supposed to...</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[juanfermin posted : You must be joking about MSN being better quality.. let's see communications that go through MS servers, VS communications that go direct from my computer to the person who I'm calling.  Which do you think would be better?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Elcabong posted : HAve'nt any of you heard of FreeWorlddialup.com? Or Pulver.com? It offers the same thing and is compatible with skype]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[John Galt posted :  <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/1135710" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1135710');">vonsen</a>:</SMALL><br><br> You can't blame a dog for not being a cat. If you don't like it, don't use it.<br> </DIV>Every once in awhile, someone cuts "right to the heart of the matter'.<br><br>I think that is the end of this thread...!<br><br>;)<br><SMALL>--<br>A is A</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[vonsen posted : We could agree to disagree. If someone gets better quality with msn than skype, it is contrary to my experience, but the bottom line is that they found something that works with them. Use whatever works best for you. My objections centered around the original poster's premise that skype is "nothing but hype" which IMO, is BS. For whatever reason he was expecting skype to seemlessly tie into PSTN and upset when it didn't. Which in no way jives with his subject line. Where are the skype claims that it is a pstn replacement rather than internet telephony? Skype does what it was designed to do well. You can't blame a dog for not being a cat. If you don't like it, don't use it.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Beetle_B posted : <I>I would agree that Skype is easy to get running, but will disagree about the audio quality being the best.<br></I><br><br>YMMV.<br><br>I live in the US, and have been wanting to call a friend in Pakistan for years (last time I met him in person was in 1997).<br><br>Over the years, we both had dialup, and tried everything - including Yahoo IM and MSN Messenger. Sound quality was just not good enough. So we never got anywhere<br><br>Then recently, I realized that I had broadband and that we never tried it after I got high speed Internet. So I suggested we try again. He's still on dialup.<br><br>Yahoo IM sucked. As did MSN Messenger.<br><br>We almost gave up, as Skype is something like a 10MB download (big for dialup). But he downloaded it anyway, and we tried the next day.<br><br>We spoke for 4 hours and 20 minutes (actually, four hours and 45 minutes with breaks). It dropped once or twice, but we just reconnected anyway. Sound quality was superb. Lag, if any, was not noticed. Absolutely NO dropped packets. I heard EVERYTHING he said and likewise. The only complaint was with his mic - it picked up too much background noise.<br><br>Not to say it was as good as phone quality. Voice was sort of dull.<br><br>The next day and the day after we did about 2 hours each.<br><br>Again, YMMV. A friend of mine (who also has broadband) calls someone else (also in Pakistan, also using dialup), and usually gets better quality with MSN.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[magbayross posted : For whatever it's worth...<br><br>Yes, Skype is free when calling other Skype users....if you want to call someone on their regular telephone you will pay a fee, a very small fee. I call New Zealand from my Skype account and it cost's me about 7 cents/min...Now, that same call using AT&T or someone else will run 40-50 cents a minute. Dahhhhh....]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[craigsn posted : I have an AMD Athlon 2500+ w/ 1gb ram, separate sound card (can't remember the brand, but a middle of the road one), and it works fine, running Win XP Pro SP2. <br><br>I've got Skype on a Mac Dual Proc G5 as well. I guess I'll try it from there and see how it works, but since that isn't my main machine, I don't use it often.<br><br>Craig]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Matt3 posted :   <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/875579" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=875579');">Vchat20</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR><BR>you can also get a virtual phone number from libretel (although limited area codes available) so regular landline users can still call. you also get free toll free number calling.<br></DIV>&raquo;<A HREF="http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/001654.html" >pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/001654.html</A><br><br>:(]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Simmer911 posted : I would never order a defective puppy...I would have it genetically altered to be absoloutely perfect!! LOL!<br><SMALL>--<br><B>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.talkaboutvoip.com" >www.talkaboutvoip.com</A><B></SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Test99 posted : I agree with voiplover.  Maybe an analogy would help.  It's as if simmer thought he was ordering a puppy.  But when he opened the cage, a kitten came out.  This is clearly an error condition. simmer's error message was, in effect, "Defective puppy".  Some of us believe the error message should have read: "Ordered wrong animal." :-) <br><SMALL>--<br>Welcome to the 21st century. You'll do fine here. Just don't expect anything to work quite the way it is supposed to...</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[voiplover posted :   <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/1139257" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1139257');">Simmer911</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR><BR><SMALL>Look...what I said in my original post was based on fact. You can only call other users of Skype for free and if you want to call people outside of Skype, then you have to pay for it. I merely offered my opinion on this service. I am sure if you have a lot of friends that use Skype, then it is great to use. But for the average newbie to VOIP it is not something I would reccommend. Most people do not want only a PC to PC solution and would rather use thier traditional phones in thier house as well as being able to use thier home wiring as well to set up thier phone service. Bottom line--for the average new user  wanting to look into getting VOIP service; I would not reccommend Skype.</SMALL><br> </DIV>Well, I (and probably the developers of skype) would have to agree with what you just posted. Thank you.<br>Unfortunately, in choosing a Header 'You leaped before you looked'. Please do a little research next time. Skype is not advertised or intended as a voip replacement for Pots. It is called Skype not voip. It is designed for peer to peer communications over the internet. They also offer on a pay per minute basis termination to pots (skype out).<br>I feel that your header "Skype is nothing but hype..." is misleading and maybe slanderous, and if you had any integrity you would edit it. (At least it rhymed.)<br>That's my opinion, and not intended to be a flame. I hope you get the point.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Vchat20 posted : i got to agree with the original poster's opinion on this. skype is just hype imho. nothing more than every other voice chat program available (teamspeak, msn, aim, yahoo, etc..).<br><br>personally, i myself like free world dialup. itc completely free. and although it still doesnt do "true" pc to phone calling, they do have partnerships with big voip companies such as vonage and packet8 so you can call packet8 and vonage users and they can call you all for free. you can also get a virtual phone number from libretel (although limited area codes available) so regular landline users can still call. you also get free toll free number calling.<br><br>to me, fwd has a hell of alot more going for it than skype can hope for in its lifetime.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Simmer911 posted : Look...what I said in my original post was based on fact. You can only call other users of Skype for free and if you want to call people outside of Skype, then you have to pay for it. I merely offered my opinion on this service. I am sure if you have a lot of friends that use Skype, then it is great to use. But for the average newbie to VOIP it is not something I would reccommend. Most people do not want only a PC to PC solution and would rather use thier traditional phones in thier house as well as being able to use thier home wiring as well to set up thier phone service. Bottom line--for the average new user  wanting to look into getting VOIP service; I would not reccommend Skype.<br><SMALL>--<br><B>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.talkaboutvoip.com" >www.talkaboutvoip.com</A><B></SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[voiplover posted : <B>Who left the back door open? :mad:</B><br>If you don't know what you are talking about, then please don't start a thread as a factual test. <br>Again, I'm seeing more thread titles that are beyond the true facts. Doesn't anybody know how to use an edit button anymore.<br><br>Sorry to ramble on. This was only about the Header of the original thread. <br><br>I've used Skype and know of many that live by it's free quality peer to peer communications. It's great for what it is, but it's not intended to be a pots line.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[ceocio posted : calm down....It's just the origianl poster's opinion.There's nothing wrong or misleading about that..Some ppl hate skype while others love it. Neither side is wrong or misleading by posting their opinions. Meanwhile, can you edit your post in response to the OP, instead of mine? ;) but it's ok if you can't edit it, I won't call it "wrong" or "misleading" follow up. ;)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Mariner9 posted : I've tried Skype (PC-to-PC) on my Pocket PC handheld (Dell Axim x30) at wifi hotspots.  Works like a charm.  Looking forward to staying in touch with a handful of friends when we're travelling.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Corvus posted : Skype is hot air and using a old concept of PC to Phone (I was using a free PC to Phone system with adware in 1998-1999, before the .com crash). This kind of service is in my opinion a VoIP service of first generation. To be reliable and constant quality (QoS capability) the best thing you can get now is a VoIP provided by your ISP (Cable or VDSL).<br><SMALL>--<br>demagogue \DEM-uh-gog\, noun: 1. A leader who obtains power by means of impassioned appeals to the emotions and prejudices of the populace. 2. A leader of the common people in ancient times</SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[ceocio posted : Your connection is fine. Did you try another computer? Skype audio quality suffers greatly if the cpu is not powerful enough. Also while skype works well with firewall, it does so by relaying the stream via other nodes, which would cause bad voice qualitiy and delay...<br> <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/1058965" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1058965');">craigsn</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR>What surprises me is that Skype doesn't work for me as well as it does others. <br><br>Anyone else have ideas on this?<br><br>Craig<br> </DIV>]]></description>
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