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Chris 313
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Houma, LA

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If my ISP starts blocking my VoIP they will hear from me and everyone else who has my VoIP and ISP.

Mass complaints do make a difference!


Qumahlin
Never Enough Time
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join:2001-10-05
united state

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said by Chris 313:

If my ISP starts blocking my VoIP they were hear from me and everyone else who has my VoIP and ISP.

Mass complaints do make a difference!
Ok, now try and find out how many people on your ISP have VoIP, now figure out how many total people your ISP has and i'm betting not even 2% of their customers are using VoIP, now add to that the amt of people that aren't smart enough to think it's their ISP blocking something and just think it's their VoIP provider being crappy, and then deciding to switch to their ISP's own VoIP offering. You'll find you don't have a too large of a "mass" left to complain.

You'll quickly find people saying "everyone complain!, everyone complain!" is alot easier then realizing how few people this currently effects, and how many of them don't care enough to complain.
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novaflare
The Dragon Was Here
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Barberton, OH

reply to Chris 313

said by Chris 313:

If my ISP starts blocking my VoIP they will hear from me and everyone else who has my VoIP and ISP.

Mass complaints do make a difference!
So do single complaints if the person makeing it has a good understanding of consumer protection and contract law.

example

My isp blocked my incoming port 80. Running a web server was totaly against their tos posted on their web site. But heres the thing at time of install i had no internet and their tos was not provided to me at the time of sign up and install. Only things about tos and the like was a url on the papper i signed nothing more. Isue this is what is considered in my state and county a blind contract blind contract are not binding contracts. Essentialy what this ment is i have no tos or any thing else that is legaly binding. So 20 minutes after my port 80 was blocked and i called them on it it was unblocked. I was the only one who complained but i knew my legal rights i knew the applicable laws and gave them a url to read them self and pointed out the proper sections of the law.
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noweb4u
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join:2003-03-26
Madison Heights, MI

reply to Chris 313
No they wont, they just shut of your phone! hahahaha!
(Now you see the beauty of their plan!)



Qumahlin
Never Enough Time
Premium,MVM
join:2001-10-05
united state

reply to novaflare

said by novaflare:

said by Chris 313:

If my ISP starts blocking my VoIP they will hear from me and everyone else who has my VoIP and ISP.

Mass complaints do make a difference!
So do single complaints if the person makeing it has a good understanding of consumer protection and contract law.

example

My isp blocked my incoming port 80. Running a web server was totaly against their tos posted on their web site. But heres the thing at time of install i had no internet and their tos was not provided to me at the time of sign up and install. Only things about tos and the like was a url on the papper i signed nothing more. Isue this is what is considered in my state and county a blind contract blind contract are not binding contracts. Essentialy what this ment is i have no tos or any thing else that is legaly binding. So 20 minutes after my port 80 was blocked and i called them on it it was unblocked. I was the only one who complained but i knew my legal rights i knew the applicable laws and gave them a url to read them self and pointed out the proper sections of the law.
Well then you got lucky, they had no legal reason as to why they would of had to unblock port 80 for you contract or no contract. If you were in a non-contract service they could of told you "well don't like it then cancel" and if you were in a service that had a contract they merely could of told you you were allowed to quit.
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anon3

@rr.com

reply to Chris 313
It is NOT a Requirement that an ISP allow Other companies services to work over their Pipe! In some instances, it is even a violation of the T.O.S. to do so....
So what are you complaining about?



tester5

@rr.com

reply to novaflare
And they have a right to refuse you service....., since you Don't have a binding contract!
Works both ways....!


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