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 legalbegalNo MercyPremium join:2004-11-08 Beverly Hills, CA 1 edit | reply to legalbegal
Re: Pluto Data Credit Card Charge Anyone who receives a charge from PLUTO DATA that appears to be fraudulent and calls the contact number on their Credit Card Statement should:
1. Confirm with directory service that the phone number is ANSWER QUICK in BATON ROUGE, LA if the representative will not confirm this when asked.
2. Contact the Baton Rouge 2nd Precinct Police Department as well as the Fraud Division: 2nd Precinct - 225-389-3863 Fraud Div - 225-389-3871
3. File a complaint at »www1.ifccfbi.gov
4. Make a complaint at »www.bbb.gov
5. Contact the Louisiana Secretary of State at (225) 925-4704 and fax (225) 925-4726 if you have access to a fax machine. (The complaint is best in writing because it can be put in their file).
6. Contact the Department of Homeland Security at 202-282-8000.
7. CANCEL THAT CREDIT CARD NUMBER and Report it to your Banks fraud department. Be sure to give them the file number given to you by the Baton Rouge Police Department.
The Contact Information on File for Answer Quick with the Louisiana Secretary of State is as follows:
-Charter/Organization ID: 34345500D -Name: ANSWER QUICK TELECOMMUNICATIONS, INC. -Type Entity: Business Corporation -Status: Active -Annual Report Status: In Good Standing -Domicile Address: 7415 TOWN SOUTH AVENUE, BATON ROUGE, LA 70808 -Incorporated: 12/19/1989 -Registered Agent (Appointed 12/19/1989): JERRY L. LONG, 7415 TOWN SOUTH AVENUE, BATON ROUGE, LA 70808 -Director: JERRY L. LONG
This information was obtained at »www.sos.louisiana.gov/cgibin?rqs···4345500D
Do not believe what the post says about Answer Quick not being involved. They are OBVIOUSLY right in the middle if not at the top of this scam because they are the ones answering the damn phones.
If everyone pulls together and reports this as soon as you notice the charges, we can get to the bottom of who is behind this scam. I personally have a feeling that it is one individual and I am also reporting with my efforts the scams of thedownloadplace.com. So if you also have made a purchase from the thedownloadplace.com previously using the same credit card number, then be sure to note that with ALL of your complaints. | |  | I found this info at networksolutions.................. The data in BulkRegister, LLC WHOIS database is provided to you by BulkRegister, LLC for information purposes only, that is, to assist you in obtaining information about or related to a domain name registration record. BulkRegister, LLC makes this information available "as is", and does not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a WHOIS query, you agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass or bulk unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via electronic mail, aka (SPAM). (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that apply to BulkRegister, LLC (or its systems). The compilation, repackaging, dissemination or other use of this data is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of BulkRegister, LLC. BulkRegister, LLC reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by these terms.
Sandfort 1 Gladebury Court, 1B Alwyne Road London, London SW19 7AB UK
Domain Name: PLUTODATA.COM
Administrative Contact - mic sand - sales@skyname.com Global E Services / SkyName 1 gladebury court, 1b alwyne road london, london sw19 7aa US Phone - 441819475199 Fax - support@skyname.com Technical Contact - mic sand - sales@skyname.com Global E Services / SkyName 1 gladebury court, 1b alwyne road london, london sw19 7aa US Phone - 441819475199 Fax - support@skyname.com Billing Contact - mic sand - sales@skyname.com Global E Services / SkyName 1 gladebury court, 1b alwyne road london, london sw19 7aa US Phone - 441819475199 Fax - support@skyname.com
Record update date - 2004-07-04 07:39:43 Record create date - 2001-06-12 Record will expire on - 2005-06-12 Database last updated on - 2005-03-17 20:46:08 EST
Domain servers in listed order:
NS3.HOSTSVR.COM 66.180.175.156 NS4.HOSTSVR.COM 65.125.228.67
TransferGuard LOCK Status => ENABLED | |  | The whois lookup is interesting. Everything about this from the beginning seems to lead to UK Data. Doing a search on the address that was in the whois info for plutodata.com brought me to them once again. The whois info for UK Data is:
Current Registrar: TUCOWS INC. IP Address: 217.199.181.112 (ARIN & RIPE IP search) IP Location: UK(UNITED KINGDOM)-ENGLAND-BOURNEMOUTH Record Type: Domain Name Server Type: Apache 1 Lock Status: ACTIVE Web Site Status: Active DMOZ 2 listings Y! Directory: see listings Secure: No E-commerce: Yes Traffic Ranking: 4 Data as of: 25-May-2004
Tucows? Hmm. One would assume that (UK Data) they are being looked into. The most frustrating thing about this whole thing is that we'll probably never know who/when/where or how our information was stolen. | |  | reply to georgia42 Watch your step - there is no reason to think that the crooks who set up/got ahold of a merchant account for Pluto Data in Cyprus have any connection with Pluto Data Ltd in the UK. | |  | reply to connecticut There is no reason to think that UK Data is associated with these crooks. Let's not be making trouble for folks that are almost certainly not involved. The crooks are not going to be someone with an obvious, available, website. The same goes for Answerquick. While Answerquick is not dealing with this in the way that we would like, they have attorneys that are dictating their behavior. | | |
|  | reply to Kip patterson
said by Kip patterson:Watch your step - there is no reason to think that the crooks who set up/got ahold of a merchant account for Pluto Data in Cyprus have any connection with Pluto Data Ltd in the UK. You are absolutely correct. However, looking at their info with that in mind is also not harmful--so long as we remember that they may have no involvement. Because, remember, UK Data, which is apparently a clearing house for setting up UK companies, had registered Pluto Data as an inactive company and just recently apparently transferred it to someone as an active company.
And, that whois info for Pluto Data is intriguing.
The contacts listed on it are all variations of
mic sand - sales@skyname.com Global E Services / SkyName 1 gladebury court, 1b alwyne road london, london sw19 7aa US Phone - 441819475199 Surely, the "US" in there is just a quirk.
Well, a whois on skyname.com shows contact info of
P. A. Sand: info@houseoflogic.com House of Logic ... Rome, 21125 IT Phone- +39 068 124 157 Fax-
The specific address is obfuscated, I think, because of a registrar lock.
The houseoflogic.com whois shows the same as skyname.com. What is interesting is that there is no website for either. www.houseoflogic.com and www.skyname.com do not resolve. Moreover, the dns entries for houseoflogic.com and skyname.com (without the www) are the bogus entries 0.0.0.0.
However, doing an MX query (checking to see where to deliver e-mail) for both returns the same answer of
;; ANSWER SECTION: skyname.com. 7200 IN MX 0 mail.dnsvr.com. skyname.com. 7200 IN MX 0 mail2.dnsvr.com.
;; AUTHORITY SECTION: skyname.com. 7200 IN NS ns3.hostsvr.com. skyname.com. 7200 IN NS ns4.hostsvr.com. So, both use dnsvr.com for their mail servers. A bit of poking around regarding dnsvr.com leads me to the strong speculation that dnsvr.com is reselling zoneedit.com domain names and mail services.
You can read terms at »dns.hostahoy.com/doc//terms.html which include references to dnsvr.com. Furthermore, looking at »www.hostahoy.com/pricing.htm shows that you can get dns and mail forwarding for $6.00/year. (Again, likely using resold zoneedit.com services.)
So, even if the UK PLUTO-DATA is not involved, it certainly looks like the kind of domain name registration chain, lack of web-site, cheap (anonymous) dns/mail hosting and country spanning ownership that would raise flags in my mind. | |  | reply to Kip patterson Well, thats one address that is confirmed to be suddenly out of business, they own the domain, but their site is down. With all of us making state reports, and more, trust me, We are about to catch them. Thanks for your advise, however, they can sue me if they want...lol. | |  | reply to Kip patterson said by Kip patterson:Watch your step - there is no reason to think that the crooks who set up/got ahold of a merchant account for Pluto Data in Cyprus have any connection with Pluto Data Ltd in the UK. Not sure I understand your post Kip. Back on page 21 of this thread I posted as "maybe123" and stated that the fraudulent charge on my card was from "Pluto Data LTD, Great Britain." Not from "Pluto D. Nicosia ,Cyprus" there are also several other people in this thread who posted that their bad charge was from the UK and not Cyprus. | |  | Neither of the Pluto Data merchant accounts are in Cyprus or England.
My best guess is that they used the reputation of an inactive British firm, Pluto Data Ltd, to get approval for the merchant accounts. It is only a guess. It takes some doing to get a merchant account, and they got at least three, including the two Mastercards and at least one Visa. So, I don't think they were Johnny-come-latelys of the street. Nor do I think that the "real" pluto Data, if the original people that created this firm are still around, have anything to do with the fraud. It was obvious that the fraud would be discovered eventually. The perps would not be so dumb as to use a company to which they had any traceable connection.
So, the only options are to follow the money and follow the source of the account numbers. Let's hope that someone does, and that we learn of the result. | |  | Ok Kip, I see what your saying now.(Pluto may have been a legit company at some point but it has been hijacked by the thieves.)
So what is the last and latest transaction date reported here? Are the crooks STILL in business? | |  | Someone on page 44 reported 03/14/05 to a debit card, but CuriousOhio on page 46 may have been on 03/17/05? Have many people used Amazon online at some point? I did but quite a long time ago. | |
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