anything but dual tuner tivo is sh#$, and everybody knows it. Dish pvr blows as does comcast. I agree with the comments above that it should sell as a software package, similar to like an antivirus program where you get periodic updates and you pay for the service. It should all be networked and updateable, for free, via the web to every users TiVo, it is no cost to them to allow it, so they should build that into every box.