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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
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1 edit | Ashamed.. I'm ashamed in BellSouth. They aren't playing very fair. They had years to get their act together w/o any interference, now that other counties are tired of their crap and want something done, BellSouth screams foul. Not very nice. I hope Lafayette takes them to court and wins.
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 yockTFTCPremium
join:2000-11-21
Miamisburg, OH
kudos:3 | These are the kinds of battles small localities have to deal with. Bellsouth shouldn't have to keep their call center there if they fear losing revenue. residents should be prepared to deal with these kinds of repercussions when they place these services in the hands of the government. What they should consider is the addition of government jobs. Will the new network require many new government employees? Will a new fiber network help attract other business and residents, and thus increased tax revenue?
They could come out very much on top by building a municipal fiber network and kicking out Bellsouth, and they wouldn't have to sacrifice jobs or tax revenue in the process.
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When I first read the newsbit's title i thought that Bellsouth was talking about reducing BST labor force to offset work reduction as business is lost to Muni Broadband. Its not only expected, but normal for any business to reduce workforce upon lost work.
This, on the other hand, is blackmail. Since Cingular is a co-owned company of BST+SBC I find it hard to believe that they would get away with it since Cingular and this Muni effort are not really competing businesses.
As such, I would have much more respect had they simply said they would reduce BST workforce in the area by 50% and double to triple POTS deployment. But, in reflection I can see this as something they would NOT want to do as it would just drive customers away faster.
So, its a lose-lose situation for everyone. Curious, what was the public vote on Muni Broadband in Lafayette? Was there a poublic vote? |
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True, they shouldn't have to keep their call center here is they fear losing revenue. The only question I would ask is what does the Cingular Call Center have to do with fiber lines/service at all? It seems like this is just a dirty blackmail scare tactic more than anything else. |
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yockTFTCPremium
join:2000-11-21
Miamisburg, OH
kudos:3 | said by FiberNow:
True, they shouldn't have to keep their call center here is they fear losing revenue. The only question I would ask is what does the Cingular Call Center have to do with fiber lines/service at all? It seems like this is just a dirty blackmail scare tactic more than anything else.
It has everything to do with the class of the worker. A tech-savvy worker will no doubt gravitate to the exciting new jobs created in fiber optic network installation, management, and support. That beats helping, in gross detail, a clueless cell phone user how to send a text message using only number keys. I'm sure you can imagine.
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There will be one now, because Bellsouth won in court. Off topic, but it seemed almost like a dirty decision. Bellsouth filed suit a day late, which the judge completely ignored. He also ruled from the bench with no recesses in a couple hours, with a whole 10 days alotted for the hearing. Anyway, the thing that worries me about a vote is that there will be alot of misinformation, and people looking at this as a money only issue, instead of weighing costs vs. benefits for the future. |
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1 edit | reply to yock
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Bellsouth shouldn't have to keep their call center there if they fear losing revenue. residents should be prepared to deal with these kinds of repercussions when they place these services in the hands of the government.
And where you see it in the hands of government, when it's small-town government, I see it in the hands of people.
It's a scare tactic, nothing more. Don't buy into their rhetoric. Threatening to fire people from a wireless division if you create fiber competition is utterly classless. They're going nowhere.
If there is money to be made in an area, it will be served, regardless of whether or not one city runs fiber to a few thousand homes.
Perhaps it forces Bellsouth to upgrade their paltry network upgrade plans and consider fiber instead of scattered ADSL2+.
BellSouth isn't going to just pack up shop and run away because a muni is developed. If anything they'll be forced to improve, perhaps eliminating the NEED for the muni. |
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yockTFTCPremium
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Miamisburg, OH
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1 edit | I'd rather see this tiny little town call Bellsouth's bluff, to be honest. They should be ready to lose Bellsouth, regardless of the reasons because that's the cost of advancement.
The perception of government is a personal thing. I'd certainly prefer this to happen at the lowest level of government as possible, but I'd rather have a corporation pump new money into the town rather than recirculate existing funds. Money has to come from somewhere and government jobs don't subsidise themselves like corporate jobs do.
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I'd rather see this tiny little town call Bellsouth's bluff, to be honest.
I imagine they will. They've received national attention, their dedicated to the idea, they've paid court fees to fight Cox and BellSouth.
The problem is when Bellsouth and Cox force this to a vote, both of those companies will reach into their endless pockets to wage all-out PR war, convincing people who otherwise know nothing about fiber that it's some kind of evil plan that will burn through tax funding and leave them all in ruin....
That's when I start to get irritated.
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lesopp
join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL | reply to Karl Bode
The counter to their threat is to make known that type action will result in a move to revoke their various certifications that allow them to operate in the entire state.
The threat of significant revenue loss is the only thing that will motivate the opposition to play fair. |
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| The threat is aimed at the regular joes in the community who will hear it, and think that if they support this fiber plan, people will lose their jobs.
It's propaganda, nothing more.
The more the city addresses it, the more "job losses due to fiber plan" gets talked about in the community. These companies are masters of bullshit and media manipulation. |
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 jhboricuaExMod 2000-01
join:2000-06-06
Minneapolis, MN | reply to FiberNow
The judge didn't force a vote on this. The vote will only happen if the BS shills get enough public support for it, which they failed to do the first time.
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