...continued in this thread as mandated..
said by NS4683:I don't use newsgroups,
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Then genius, you cannot comment on the validity of MY OP within »
OOL Throttling D/L's NOW (Dirty New Tactic)Did you even bother to read the whole thing? Or at least the 1st sentence? Here, let me read aloud to you:
"...throttling the connections of users who download from any outside usenet premium ..."
but can this actually be confirmed? How do you know it's not your node being overloaded?
Repeating what you obviously could not read yourself:
"Who here has ever heard of, or can even imagine some type, any type of system malfunction, or failure, manifesting itself, in such a contrived, and precisely timed manner. Not to mention the fact that it affects only a CERTAIN TYPE of network traffic."
and,
"I'm sure you've already seen the some of the threads with complaints in them already."
Apparently, YOU have not.
I'm not buying it yet, especially since the person posting is from cable.mindspring.com
Oooooooooooooo.. Well done Sherlock! That is dead evidence there that someone could not POSSIBLY be an OOL sub.
Here's a clue junior. WHERE someone posts from is utterly irrelevant and I won't comment on red herring such as that again.
said by GeekNJ:What about the news server provider? Aren't they involved in the equation yet not mentioned?
Who are the news service providers you use? Does it happen to multiple ones at the same time?
Your thread title is very accusatory yet you don't really have much in the way of specific proof.
Don't act so damn coy and patronizing. I've seen your postings and you appear to have some intellect but don't be such a blantant brown nose all the time.
It's plainly obvious that you read into just about every thread in this forum. You've read plenty of posts regarding this issue already and you know damn well it's happening across multiple NSP's and "regions".
Proof. Gimme a break. What do you want a video of the CV NE's actually playing with traffic shaping tools before you'll admit what seems apparent to everyone?
@JoshNJ: As usual, absolutely nothing of value to add at all. Go crawl back under your rock.
said by La Luna:The bottom line is that only a few people are seeing this....the majority are not.
So, you are the be-all end-all authority huh? You have NO IDEA how many people are seeing this, and neither do I, but there certainly are enough that all should be concerned.
Naysayers READ THIS:
This
ONLY affects people who PAY EXTRA for an outside NSP service! If you're unable to read even the 1st damned sentence of my OP, don't waste your time with useless comments. (And this has absolutely nothing to do with routers, so don't bother with that one)
Also, the port you use is of no consequence as I've tried alternates.. It is traffic shaping specifically targeted at usenet
downloaders, and for me at least, began saturday, 2/26/2005 (late PM I believe I noted). Node saturation in no way explains the "timeliness" of these occurrances, not to mention the fact that it ONLY is TRIGGERED by USENET activity. All indications are of deliberate actions by CV. Disgraceful.
Additionally, note, this discussion has *no* business being in the "capping" thread either (as a few have suggessted) as that relates specifically to the upload cap.
I *URGE* ANYONE with outside usenet access to:
1) Read the OP (linked at top of this one)
2) Try yourself and report back.
I will repeat that if I am wrong I have no issues admitting to it but until this rather solid theorey is debunked, no *sensible* person can deny what many are seeing.