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P2P and BT traffic shaping proof.

Sbrook beat me to it in another thread!

Yupper ... gotta be on the ball these days!

Still, a lot of the BT probs predate this stuff ...

You've got to love it though ... let's provide broadband, and then take it away because we really want to provide DPS and because bandwidth costs too much.

This is one crazy industry.

reply to ted24
Hmm.. I dunno. It mentions Bell has one of their customers, yet Bell people aren't having BT probs...

Yeah ... but then Bell doesn't suffer in the upload department like a cable operator so its effects are probably less noticeable.

reply to ted24
Sean K, never mind that Bell doesn't have any BT speed problems, I don't see anyone complaining that they are having speed problems based on a single application.

I think that its just bait advertising; putting big company names on the site when its just possibly that the company asked about information on the software/hardware.
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reply to ted24
i know bell has talked about it but there is no pressing need for it for them.

look at the huge amount of money they have spent upgradeing.

shortly rogers is going to be way behind in the speed area not to mention a alot of other areas.

god i hope they don't.

You know what magnus? I have been hearing DSL providers/pumpers talk about DSL blowing away Cable soon since...oh... 1995. LOL It hasn't happened yet and I'm not holding my breath. haha I'm not flaming, just commenting.
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reply to ted24
While that's true, no denying the telco's have a lot more money than the cable co's.

As far as I'm concerned, DSL has finally beat cable in this race, lol.

reply to ted24
Note that it says: "Internet Service Providers SUCH AS Bell, Rogers, AOL etc. The ACTUAL NAMES of customers are CONFIDENTIAL."

That sentence certainly does not give a 100% conclusive view that Bell, Rogers or AOL are using the system. Just indicates that companies similar to those are using them. Looks like marketing propaganda to me (as a marketing professional).

Also note that the date is from 2003. That page is almost 2 years old and Rogers is currently not listed on Sandvine's website.

There is still no proof Rogers is using this equipment.

I'm convinced. Check my post.

»so how many have noticed a huge bt speed drop

reply to ted24
Rogers is controlling p2p with shaping, session management and session limiting, via protocol anlaysis above layer 4 (port level).
Can't give more details. Entering this via hacked system as they could / will trace back.

Anyway around this azwyt to help out our cheated/affected users?

reply to azwyt
Based on rumours I'm hearing from outside sources, Rogers undoubtedly has traffic shaping equipment and is probably moving them around for testing.

reply to ted24
Wow, so Rogers are actually been doing this? Controlling our internet bandwidth? I'm having horrilbe ping at the moment and I'm only uploading at 20kbs. Rogers really starting to pisses me off since I can't play game and download at teh same time. Ridiculous!!

reply to sbrook

Don't mind me... I'm furious with TED lately. Bit torrent screwing, Caps, I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop...

reply to pulp46
It is fairly recent from what I understand.

I suspect your *outside* sources are a little less in the know from mine... I heard it was last year Ted rolled out the first shaping equipment... perhaps not fully functional 'till recently? Will have to ask for clarification.
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