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AJ023

join:2001-12-25
Forest Hills, NY
reply to CopperMux

[Business] Re: FIOS scheduled for Bronx NY yet?

Please go here:

»www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/html/lucds/cdstart.html

and click on the districts in the Bronx. It tells you specifically the figures of MDUs and Homes percentage wise in that community district.

For example District 10 (where I saw permits for new polls filled by the DOT on the permit website and please go here:

»www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/lucds/b···file.pdf

As you can see district 10 is 30% homes, only 12% MDUs. So District 10 is prime area for FIOS deployment by homes. District 10 encompasses Pelham Bay, Throgs Neck, City Island and others.

The chart shows the whitish areas as 1+2 family homes so you can see specifically where the homes reside.

If you read what I said, I specifically said that areas that have more homes than MDUs will go first. I did NOT say which of those towns these were. However going by Community Districts those are as follows:

Community District #8 (Riverdale, Kingsbridge)
Community District #9 in the Southeast part, I assume thats Parkchester?
Community District #10 (Throgs Neck, Pelham Bay, etc...)
Community District #11 Pelham Bay Gardens, Morris Park
Community District #12 Baychester, Eastchester, etc...

And there are pockets of homes in some other community districts that could be pulled in as well untill they do MDUs.

Just look at the website I gave you as it lists SPECIFICALLY where those homes lie, the percentages and everything inbetween. And I have no doubt Verizon is using this type of information as to determine where to deploy.

I listed those towns because those towns are going to be the EARLIEST to get FIOS out of all those other towns. I did not parse out untill now which towns had significant home percentages.

Verizon still has to do MDUs and if your in any of the afformentioned towns you have a better shot at getting it when MDUs come online.


alvaromuir

join:2005-05-16
Brooklyn, NY
reply to Tomek

I just called Verizon. Lady says she has no idea when Fios will be available in any of the 5 B's because of all the multi dwellings. She swears its not available yet in any of NYC


AJ023

join:2001-12-25
Forest Hills, NY

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I can answer that right now: June to July 2005 for the earliest NYC deployments for you to order service. Staten Island (limited parts maybe, they are working hard pulling fiber now all over) and Queens in Bayside,Oakland Gardens, Douglaston, Little Neck as those areas are just finishing up.

For the majority we wait to see how it works out and how fast they progress it.

In terms of Bronx, for some areas which have a VERY HIGH percentages of single family homes, we COULD see availability in by September 2006 assuming they start doing more than poll rehab work within the next month, thats just a personal guess.

FIOS deployment takes time, but it goes faster once more permits AND employees come online. The more money Verizon makes, the more employees it highers and the quicker it goes! So hang in tight. Verizon wants 3 million homes passed by year end. That still leaves plenty of us out of the loop so far.


CopperMux

join:2005-01-18
reply to Network Guy

Dont feed the trolls!!!

AJ, the community board #'s dont accurately show the breakdown in the areas listed. Its way more on the MDU side and that site is surprisingly off. I wonder why, they should have the means to get the #'s right.

Lets take Riverdale, north of 242nd St, you have 70% private homes to 30% apartment buildings. Prime FIOS area. Big $$ and high profile. The "Riverdale" name has always been a big thing. I bet thats area #1 for this roll out. Woodlawn might be next. Sadly the central Bronx is an MDU nightmare and that will be a problem.


AJ023

join:2001-12-25
Forest Hills, NY

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Those numbers are correct and those are City of New York OFFICIAL figures.

You can even verify without going there by using Google satellite images which are now free to see those areas accurately represented because you can view the homes in those areas. The colors correspond to the homes in those areas correctly and the statistics are indeed accurate. They go by communitity districts and not by towns HOWEVER you can look at the map section which lists the specific color codes for figures. NYC also has a zoning map on the website as well which was from a college which worked in partnership with NYC and it directly also corresponds with those community district maps. It is also available on the city website.

Tell those in the homes in Bronx in those areas who LIVE THERE AND WANT FIOS! They are there and indeed accurate. Satellite images from google, zoning maps and the community district maps are indeed correct because they are all 3 different sources and SHOW THE SAME THING!

I dont know why you are arguing with me when every website is confirming what I am saying including those 3 which are all provided via different sources.

I take it you never been to Pelham area before. Theres even a Horse stable down there and yes, multiple single story homes and its really nice and yet you deny even that area has single family homes? It was not even in the list you mentioned.

Heres an example of single family homes in Pelham:

»newyork.foxtons.com/search?md5=8···umbnails

There are MANY of these types of homes there. Just look on the google satellite images for goodness sakes. Your arguing yet the FACTS show otherwise.

It seems like the only person trolling is some anonymous poster from Verizon who doesnt even give his username.


CopperMux

join:2005-01-18

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AJ, not arguing with you, simply pointing out what I see and live in daily. Born and raised there. Worked in EVERY neighborhood for many years. Seen it all top to bottom. Regardless of what those numbers say, they are wrong. Do you believe everything you read, especially government posted numbers? Please tell me you dont, I dont want to discuss this with someone that foolish. You get very accusatory when someone conflicts with your opinion. Perhaps the anonymous person isnt the troll here......

Stables? WTF? Do horses require FIOS now? Does Mr. Ed download porn these days?

As for your google map, go ahead and google Highbridge, Melrose, Kingsbridge, Co Op City, University Hgts, Tremont, Fordham, The Concourse, Soundview, Hunts Point, etc. Show me more than a few isolated blocks of private/2 family homes. Then google Riverdale, Woodlawn, T Neck and Morris Park. You'll see what I mean.

I already said Pelham area (Morris Park etc) is a viable candidate. Perhaps you dont know the Bronx well enough to discuss this. I said the central Bronx is all MDU's. Go take a ride up the Grand Concourse and make a left or right at every intersection and find more than 2 private houses together in any direction.

My point is, those numbers do not accurately reflect the layout in the Bronx. Thats fact. Get off the PC and take a ride. Hop on the 4, 5, or 6 line and watch the Bronx go by. You'll see MDU's only.

Morris Park, which is part of Pelham, has a small area of single family homes compared to the entire neighborhood in general. Same for Kingsbridge. Throggs Neck, Riverdale and Woodlawn are the only areas with few apartment buildings.


AJ023

join:2001-12-25
Forest Hills, NY

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You think I never been to the Bronx before Wrong!

The numbers are NOT wrong. You seem to be skipping over the list I gave for some reason:

Community District #8 (Riverdale, Kingsbridge)
Community District #9 in the Southeast part, I assume thats Parkchester?
Community District #10 (Throgs Neck, Pelham Bay, etc...)
Community District #11 Pelham Bay Gardens, Morris Park
Community District #12 Baychester, Eastchester, etc...

These are the areas with higher percentages of homes. Why are you slipping in the other areas when I DID NOT SAY THOSE AREAS HAD A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF HOMES. I said the community districts ABOVE have the highest percentage of homes. Your skipping out areas in the above I posted.

And then you argue that those figures from the city are incorrect. They are NOT. You can use google satellite images and see the homes are precisely where they are on those maps. From a rough look it looks like those figures are indeed accurate.

Someone from the Bronx in those areas has to be reading this. Stand up for your FIOS.

This post is to educate users as to when they will get FIOS and the fact is those areas in the community districts I posted will be the 1st of the first, then eventually the other town listings will come online.

Lets behave and posts facts and figures rather than say information is wrong without showing another source with the correct information. Google the areas of Parkchester, Eastchester, Pelham Parkway, and others and you will also find single family homes and it confirms the data from the city charts when you look at the satellite images. You can only argue it is wrong if you have viable facts and figures and give urls or sources.

FIOSWATCHER@verizon.net and AJisWRONGAGAIN@verizon.net are most likely the same user.


CopperMux

join:2005-01-18

In essence, we have said the same thing yet you are arguing with me. So, please, what exactly is your problem? As for the areas you mention in the various community boards....

District 8. South of 242nd St, its mostly apartment buildings save for some private homes on Sedgewick Ave and west of Broadway. North of 242nd St, its reversed 3's wise.

District 9. Parkchester is all MDU's. Its a concrete village.

District 10. I already went over the area.

District 11. Same as above.

District 12. Its 50/50.

So, your point in arguing me is?


AJ023

join:2001-12-25
Forest Hills, NY

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"AJ, I doubt you will see FIOS in most of those areas soon. Outside of Woodlawn, parts of Wakefield, Country Club, City Island and Riverdale, most of those areas or strictly apartment buildings."

This is what you posted. You did not include other towns like Pelham Parkway and the other towns I mentioned. You skipped over alot of towns.

In terms of district 9, I had assumed that was parkchester which had the homes and I wasnt sure and made this comment earlier: Community District #9 in the Southeast part, I assume thats Parkchester?

I stand corrected on this point but I had shown earlier I wasnt sure if this was Parkchester. And it turns out it wasnt. HOWEVER the correct areas were Castle Hill, and Unionport as well as Clason Point and Harding River. So thats 4 more towns to the list. Because Castle Hill was on the earlier list, Castle Hill would have the highest priority in that area and would likely be the place getting it first in CD #9.


AJ023

join:2001-12-25
Forest Hills, NY

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reply to ss4vegito7

ss4vegito7: Can you please post where you saw this box or post a digital picture!

I will snap a photo of the box so we can all determine if its FIOS in Riverdale.

Regardless all of us here do agree Riverdale would be the 1st place to get when Bronx is wired up.


awk_boy

join:2002-05-15
Bronx, NY
reply to Network Guy

Well, its been almost a month... Has anyone seen any activity in the BX?

I live in district #10, and haven't seen anything that would suggest FIOS to me.



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Bronx, NY
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reply to Network Guy

Only Fios stuff i see is when im on central ave in westchester
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Shamayim
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reply to Network Guy

I've been seeing heavy duty Verizon trucks in NW Bronx the last couple of weeks but am always on a bus and can't ask what they're doing. Hopefully it's laying fiber(?)!

On the other hand, just got off the phone with Vz FIOS and according to the guy the Bronx isn't even on the radar yet
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Network Guy
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New York
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Where in NW Bronx? I haven't seen any activity at all, I'm at Castle Hill by the Cross Bronx Exp. Then again, I'm only home after six.



Shamayim
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Kingsbridge area in the mornings. Next time I see them I'll get off the bus and ask if they're laying fiber.
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Network Guy
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Cool shit.



Shamayim
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reply to Network Guy

[Business] Bronx update

Spoke to a working Verizon field rep this morning. Bronx FIOS rollout won't happen this year but is likely to begin in 2006 for residential private houses.

"What about apartment buildings?" I asked hopefully. These, I am disheartened to report, were his exact words:

"They don't even have a plan for that yet."
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[Business] Re: Bronx update

LOL

Oh well. Not that I'm holding my breath for FIOS. I do live in a private house, but there's apartment buildings practically everywhere else you look. It's nothing like the topology found in areas like Morrisania or University Heights where apartment buildings is basically all there is, but there are many of those in Castle Hill.

Thanks for the update


TrekfanII

join:2000-10-14
Bronx, NY
reply to AJ023

[Business] Re: FIOS scheduled for Bronx NY yet?

What I want to know is what is it going to take to bring FIOS to apartments in the Bronx and the rest of New York City.It seems that Verizon has not found that out yet and that is a shame that they are "learning" as they go deploying their fiber while we "wait".Time is ticking by and I think that if they drag their feet as a company,someone else is gonna leapfrog ahead of em.



Phoneman63

join:2001-02-22
Hauppauge, NY
reply to Network Guy

FYI. Here is the sked for The Bronx for 2006.
Cruger
City Island.

Please realize that things change.
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Network Guy
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New York
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Cruger as in White Plains Road & Pelham Parkway?

At least that's some progress.



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said by Network Guy:

Cruger as in White Plains Road & Pelham Parkway?

At least that's some progress.
Don't know. It only say's Cruger.
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Network Guy
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New York
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Okie dokie.

Appreciate the update


dramzan98

join:2002-01-25
Bronx, NY

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Was driving up Gun Hill Road and passed Boston Rd. when i saw the little advertising truck that said Verizon Fios is here. I did a double take and almost crashed. Is the potential deployment going a little faster than expected or did the truck lose its way from westchester? I hope not!


tele70

join:2002-11-03
Milford, CT
reply to Network Guy

I'm a technician for Verizon. I can tell you that as of today not a single strand of fiber related to Fios has been run in the Bronx. I spoke with an engineer yesterday and the word is they will do the Kruger C.O which is the north east bronx first and its tentively scheduled for late 2006 or early 2007. At this point the plan is only to wire private homes not , no MDU as of yet. Be patient as i've heard that fios kicks ass.



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reply to Network Guy

very gay, i want fios lol



Shamayim
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reply to Network Guy

For those who don't know:

MDU = Multiple Dwelling Units (i.e. apartment houses)
FIOS = FIber Optic Service

The MDU holdup is that FIOS needs its own power supply to work in each individual apartment and Verizon hasn't yet figured out who is going to pay for same. The landlord? The tenant? Verizon? Plus they need to hammer out billing arrangements with Con Ed.

FWIW the Vz guy I quizzed about all this last week said the Bronx is scheduled to begin "February 2006." City Island, with all its private houses, is first up.
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TrekfanII

join:2000-10-14
Bronx, NY

Like I posted before:What is it gonna take for Verizon to deploy fios to MDU's? New York City is chock full of not only residential dwellings but LOTS of office buildings that would love for fios to take hold of quickly in this market place but it seems that Verizon is not sure how to go about doing that.Playing it by ear it seems to me is not a good strategy in this sector of economy.People and more importantly companies will look to other means get their broadband on and not wait for Verizon get it's act together on this front.Your thoughts folks.



1234abcd

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reply to Network Guy

City-Island will get it first, next year. Then, who knows?


blaqueknite

join:2005-11-08
reply to Network Guy

I am a Verizon Field Technician woking in the Bronx, fiber will be coming in early 2006. Fiber in City Island has been postponed because they are putting in a new sewer system and the company will wait until that is finihed. The plan for 2006 is the Cruger area this will cover East of White Plains Road and North of Gun Hill. This area was chosen because there are many attached houses, so it will keep the cost per footage(of fiber cable)low which is a big concern of the company. Peolpe in Country club, Throgs Neck and Castle Hill will have to wait cost per footage there was considered to high. Technicians will start laying cable in Cruger for the first three months. Then splicing ( putting cables together) will start in area. The anticipation is that all work will be complete in late 2006. In Long Island Technicians ran fiber optic dropwires to every home, in the Bronx this will not be the case. Only if you order the Fios will a doprwire be run. This will help keep cost down for the company. As of now there is no solution to getting the Fios into apartment buildings. Right now the way the laws are written a company must offer service in a entire area in this caes the Bronx in order to get approval to sell video. I know company is lobbying to get the laws changed, but they can expect a fight from Cablevision. Hope this helps anybody with questions.