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ddg4005
Premium
join:2001-08-22
Bronx, NY
reply to DVRaholic

[Business] Re: FIOS scheduled for Bronx NY yet?

said by DVRaholic:

said by Midak:

Hey DVR, congrats on your future billing headaches. Might not be so bad with just phone and net but from September to January, my bill was messed up every single month.
Hey Its Midak, Long time no see.
Thanks for your Congrats (I think)

What part of the Bronx do you live if don't mind my asking?


DVRaholic
Premium
join:2006-01-20
Bronx, NY
reply to Midak

said by Midak:

Hey DVR, congrats on your future billing headaches. Might not be so bad with just phone and net but from September to January, my bill was messed up every single month.
Hey Its Midak, Long time no see.
Thanks for your Congrats (I think)


Midak
Doctors suck
Premium
join:2002-02-26
Yonkers, NY
reply to Network Guy

Hey DVR, congrats on your future billing headaches. Might not be so bad with just phone and net but from September to January, my bill was messed up every single month.


jammmin

join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD
reply to blaqueknite

said by blaqueknite:

Tratman is the next CO that will be done, but there are a couple issues probably holding things up. Verizon is hoping to have the video franchise approved this summer until that happens no new CO's will be started. Also the union's contract is up in August so there is the possibility of a strike.
As I have suggested before, doesn't it make since to build out as much as possible so that when the video franchise is signed FIOS TV will be available to as much people as possible versus waiting to get the franchise and then you build out.

Verizon is building itself further into a hole by waiting. Bad for them, good for the cable companies.

blaqueknite

join:2005-11-08
reply to sunny8294

Tratman is the next CO that will be done, but there are a couple issues probably holding things up. Verizon is hoping to have the video franchise approved this summer until that happens no new CO's will be started. Also the union's contract is up in August so there is the possibility of a strike.


sunny8294
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join:2001-03-15
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reply to Network Guy



Argh, did they forget there is a CO called Tratman Avenue?

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tsskiller

join:2005-07-24
Bronx, NY
reply to DVRaholic

[Business] Re: Why it took so long

Let's hope that they could wire Tratman just as quickly.



DVRaholic
Premium
join:2006-01-20
Bronx, NY

2 edits
reply to Network Guy

[Business] Why it took so long

The reason it took so long is because as I said in my post I was the FIRST block in my neighborhood to get the Fiber up, My whole neighborhood is wired now (10 blocks wide by 10 blocks long)

Problem was shortly after the fiber went up on my block All work stopped in my neighborhood because as Blaqueknight said in this thread, All workers were moved to areas that could offer Video. Since I am in the Bronx we don't have Video yet.

Work resumed a few months ago and now my Block has been turned on, I am the First block activated as most of the neighborhood still cant order Fios.

So if the work had not stopped for nearly 6 months, Then it would of taken 2-3 months from the Fiber being hung to me being turned on.

Bottom line is Even though it took 9 months, I'm still happy as Hell that I can finally Dump OOL!!!

Yes!


jammmin

join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD
reply to CopperMux

[Business] Re: YESSSS!!

said by CopperMux:

You're right, it's incredibly easy to run cable in the Bronx. They should have been done in 3 or 4 hours. Ever think there is more to it than what you see?
I understand but there is much more involved when you have undergroun utilities. If it took me two months from when they dug through my yard to get service. It should take much less than that time to overhead wiring.

Its not rocket science.

CopperMux

join:2005-01-18

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reply to jammmin

You're right, it's incredibly easy to run cable in the Bronx. They should have been done in 3 or 4 hours. Ever think there is more to it than what you see?


jammmin

join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD
reply to CopperMux

said by CopperMux:

said by jammmin:

said by DVRaholic:

Whooo Hooo!!!!

FINALLY!! 9 months after the Fiber was strung on my Block

(I was the First block in my neighborhood to get the fiber up)

FIOS has been turned ON is available to me!!!!

Installation is scheduled for Saturday.

YES!!!
I think it is pathetic it took 9 months after fiber was strung up in your neighborhood for it to be finally available. At this rate, Verizon will take 50 years to finally catch up to the cable companies.
It's not like they hung it and then sat looking at it for 8 months. It takes time and alot more than splicing and flipping a switch.
When Verizon came through my neighborhood in Maryland(all underground utilities), it took only two months or less from when they dug through my yard for the service to be ready.

Most of the Bronx is overhead wiring which is much easier to install than digging up everyone' yard in my neighborhood, so therefore, I don't believe in this 9 month garbage wait. At this rate, they will never catch up with Cablevision or Time Warner.

CopperMux

join:2005-01-18
reply to jammmin

said by jammmin:

said by DVRaholic:

Whooo Hooo!!!!

FINALLY!! 9 months after the Fiber was strung on my Block

(I was the First block in my neighborhood to get the fiber up)

FIOS has been turned ON is available to me!!!!

Installation is scheduled for Saturday.

YES!!!
I think it is pathetic it took 9 months after fiber was strung up in your neighborhood for it to be finally available. At this rate, Verizon will take 50 years to finally catch up to the cable companies.
It's not like they hung it and then sat looking at it for 8 months. It takes time and alot more than splicing and flipping a switch.

jammmin

join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD
reply to DVRaholic

said by DVRaholic:

Whooo Hooo!!!!

FINALLY!! 9 months after the Fiber was strung on my Block

(I was the First block in my neighborhood to get the fiber up)

FIOS has been turned ON is available to me!!!!

Installation is scheduled for Saturday.

YES!!!
I think it is pathetic it took 9 months after fiber was strung up in your neighborhood for it to be finally available. At this rate, Verizon will take 50 years to finally catch up to the cable companies.

CopperMux

join:2005-01-18
reply to DVRaholic

NICE!



DVRaholic
Premium
join:2006-01-20
Bronx, NY
reply to jammmin

[Business] YESSSS!!

Whooo Hooo!!!!

FINALLY!! 9 months after the Fiber was strung on my Block

(I was the First block in my neighborhood to get the fiber up)

FIOS has been turned ON is available to me!!!!

Installation is scheduled for Saturday.

YES!!!


jammmin

join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD

1 edit
reply to nintendo424

[Business] Re: FIOS scheduled for Bronx NY yet?

I am sure Cablevision will try to keep Verizon out of Coop City by buying off th board members of Coop City.

Remember, Verizon will need permission from the Coop City Board to wire the all the buildings in Coop City.


nintendo424

join:2008-02-07
reply to Network Guy

RE:Cablevision recently purchased Coop City's in house cable company allows Coop City to use its spare fiber for surveilance cameras. I'm not sure but Cablevision may hold exclusive rights to Coop City. In any case Verizon is looking to turn a profit quickly and high rise apartments would be the most expensive to wire.

That was Community Home Entertainment cable. CHE cable RIP 1982-2008. Why did coop city sell it? Now cable prices go even higher. Verizon needs to get that cable franchise in the Bronx!



Midak
Doctors suck
Premium
join:2002-02-26
Yonkers, NY
reply to DVRaholic

said by DVRaholic:

Work seems to have stopped in my neighborhood again
This is really dragging on and on...
Hang in there, they may actually be done wiring. It was a while before I could order after they were done with the wiring.


DVRaholic
Premium
join:2006-01-20
Bronx, NY
reply to Network Guy

Work seems to have stopped in my neighborhood again
This is really dragging on and on...



darcilicious
Cyber Librarian
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join:2001-01-02
Forest Grove, OR
kudos:4
Reviews:
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reply to tsskiller

said by tsskiller:

[...]if I have to pay termination fees in order to switch to FiOS.
There are no termination fees for DSL when upgrading to FiOS.


tsskiller

join:2005-07-24
Bronx, NY
reply to Network Guy

I wonder if Verizon would let me opt out of a new DSL contract when FiOS becomes available here (at the Tratman CO). I don't want to sign a new contract (as my contract expires on March 22nd.) if I have to pay termination fees in order to switch to FiOS.


jammmin

join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD
reply to Network Guy

FIOS internet has been available to my brother in his Bronx MDU(10 story) for sometime now.

Recently, FIOS reps. had a big push to sign up subscribers in his building. He is thinking of getting it.

They are offering him a double play package(phone/internet) for which he will save $10-15 a month over a comparaable package from Cablevision. He currently has all 3 services from Cablevision.

The double play package comes with a 2 year contract. He is concerned how easy it would be to upgrade to a triple play package when FIOS TV comes to NYC hopefully sometime this year?


sunny8294
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join:2001-03-15
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reply to blaqueknite

Thanks blaqueknite for your information. Glad that Tratman CO is queued up for 2008 . Do you have any idea when the work will begin?


Network Guy
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New York
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Reviews:
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reply to blaqueknite

said by blaqueknite:

I was told that in the Bronx the big push will be to install Fios in Tratman Ave CO in 2008.
It's about damn time.

More than likely I'll keep my trusty, cost-effective $28 3/768 line, but I wouldn't find checking out FiOS for video. I like DirecTV but would need to compare pricing and decide.

Cool beans. Thx for the info.


DVRaholic
Premium
join:2006-01-20
Bronx, NY
reply to blaqueknite

As Always THANKS Blaqueknite for your Information.. It is much appreciated.

My area of the Bronx (Woodlawn, right below Yonkers) has seen this Push in the last couple weeks. I counted 6 Verizon trucks in my neighborhood last week. Most installing the Fiber, and some putting in the Splitter boxes.

Driving around it looks like Most of the Fiber is up, and about half the splitter boxes are done.

Hopefully it will go fast My neighborhood is only 8 blocks wide by 10 blocks long.

Have you heard about the Push in Woodlawn Heights, any possible turn on date ??

Thanks again for the Great Info!!


jammmin

join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD

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reply to blaqueknite

said by blaqueknite:

Cablevision recently purchased Coop City's in house cable company allows Coop City to use its spare fiber for surveilance cameras. I'm not sure but Cablevision may hold exclusive rights to Coop City. In any case Verizon is looking to turn a profit quickly and high rise apartments would be the most expensive to wire.
Coopcity initially had its own inhouse cable company. About 7 or so years ago, Cablevision was given permission(by the Coop City Board) to wire the entire Coopcity.

I would find it hard to believe that the board would give an exclusive license to Cablevision and yet again you never know.

In any event even if Cablevision doesn't have an exclusive agreement with Cablevision, there is no rule that can force Coop City to come to an agreement with Verizon.

When Verizon eventually gets a franchise for NYC, Verizon still has to negotiate a separate agreement with every building owner in NYC to offer service. This will be a huge uphill task for Verizon over the next couple of years.

blaqueknite

join:2005-11-08
reply to jammmin

Cablevision recently purchased Coop City's in house cable company allows Coop City to use its spare fiber for surveilance cameras. I'm not sure but Cablevision may hold exclusive rights to Coop City. In any case Verizon is looking to turn a profit quickly and high rise apartments would be the most expensive to wire.


jammmin

join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD
reply to Network Guy

What CO is Coop City served out of?

It would make sense that Verizon wire Coop City as soon as possible. It would be a massive undertaking since its about 30 MDU's most 25 stories or more. Cablevision wired the entire Coop City a few years ago. Verizon could do the same.


blaqueknite

join:2005-11-08
reply to Network Guy

Hi, I'm a Field Technician for Verizon working in the Bronx . Verizon had a meeting of area managers yesterday and I was told that in the Bronx the big push will be to install Fios in Cruger ave And Tratman Ave COs in 2008. No information on other areas of the Bronx. Upper management would not put a date to it but, they are hopeful of getting a cable franchise by the first quarter. Here is a interesting column by Juan Gonzalez with lots of info in the New York Daily News.

Verizon deal could finally offer real competition in cable TV service
Wednesday, January 16th 2008, 4:00 AM

City officials spentTuesday in secret talks with phone giant Verizon on a new franchise deal that could finally offer New Yorkers real competition in cable TV service.

Talks on the new 15-year Verizon franchise, which have gone on for months, were supposed to be wrapped up before Christmas, but they apparently stalled. Verizon and City Hall refuse to comment on the negotiations or the reason for the delay.

But make no mistake - this Verizon deal is huge.

Not only is it worth billions of dollars, it will set the pattern for the city's renewal of the existing Time Warner and Cablevision franchises that expire later this year.

Most of us can't wait for an end to those two monopolies.

The big stumbling block between Verizon and the city, cable industry sources say, is the phone giant's desire to offer its service, known as FiOS, in the city's wealthiest neighborhoods first.

Public housing projects and poor neighborhoods would just have to wait.

"We have to make sure Verizon doesn't cherry-pick," said City Councilwoman Gale Brewer (D-Manhattan).

Decades ago, "the city didn't let the cable companies build on the upper West Side unless they built in Harlem at the same time," Brewer said. Back then, city negotiators set strict timetables for providing service in each neighborhood.

As head of the Council's Committee on Technology in Government, Brewer supports a "firm stand" by the Bloomberg administration on the issue of "universal buildout."

Verizon spokeswoman Heather Wilner declined to talk about Verizon's position, except to say: "We've been laying fiber and building our network in all five boroughs, and are really excited about bringing TV choice and competition."

A major technical problem with Verizon's system is the glass fiber lines that carry its video and data don't bend easily around sharp corners like copper wires.

That means bringing fiber into high-rise buildings can be more expensive. There is also a risk of lower transmission speed if strands of fiber are damaged.

Wilner said the company remedied the problem by ordering a new type of bendable fiber developed by Corning.

While franchise talks drag on, Verizon has been feverishly reaching deals to bring FiOS to scores of towns around the state.

Just before Christmas, for example, Verizon inked an agreement with 15 villages on Long Island's North Shore.

Those wealthy North Shore towns, which include Great Neck, negotiated such a terrific deal for themselves that Mayor Bloomberg's aides would be crazy to settle for anything less.

For example, New York City gets a 5% license fee from all gross revenues from the Time Warner and Cablevision contracts.

In addition, the public access channels in each borough get less than 50 cents per month, per subscriber to pay for producing all their community-based programs.

Great Neck negotiated what amounts to 6% of gross revenues, with about half of that set aside for public access channels.

In addition, it is requiring Verizon to wire every village hall, school district, library and district park in the franchise area to allow for the broadcasting of community and school meetings and other events from those places.

Imagine using just a few of those hundreds of cable channels to serve the people of a community instead of just to sell them more consumer products.

That's the kind of improved use of cable technology Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer has been advocating fiercely with City Hall.

Whether it's Verizon, Time Warner or Cablevision, they all need public streets and rights-of-way to run their cables.

The only time the public can get something back for those valuable rights is when the deal is being done.

Others write history, I give you news: The deal is going down now


sunny8294
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join:2001-03-15
Localhost ;)
reply to Network Guy

Tratman CO yet?
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