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oliphant
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA

Again the solution is simple...

Fine the companies. They're selling a product from ABC Company. If ABC has a US presence hold them liable. Companies are routinely held liable for 3rd party contractors who violate the law. Hell if Viacom can be held liable for Janet's tit so can those who hire the telemarkers.

For those businesses that are overseas and have no US presence, a 50000% tariff (an effective ban) on their imports (whatever they're trying to sell) would finish them off unless they played ball with US law.

Then there's forcing VISA and Mastercard to close their merchant accounts and other more drastic measures that gov't can enforce should they chose to.
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY

Sounds good but the country of orgin would howl and scream to the World Trade Organization that we where using unfair trade pratices.

What is so infuriating about this is You will endup paying for crap coming in on your telephone you do not want to hear, all of that bandwidth costs money and you are at the bottom of the money food chain.
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DaveDude
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reply to oliphant
call them back.

The best way is to flood them will calls. I got in the mail, a letter marked URGENT open immediately, that looked like a bank statement. When i open it, it was a subscription for Fortune Magazine. I was so pissed. I put the entire advertisment into the return envelope, minus the part that had my name back in, and then mailed it. So it cost them money. Everyone should do this when you get these ads.



oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA

I ALWAYS return the stuff. And I usually stuff a bunch of other ads without envelopes in there too...perhaps a dead bug People say, doesn't hurt anyone but the poor person opening it...I say they shouldn't work for an organization who practices deceptive marketing then.

Same with junk USPS mail. Anything without my address on it goes out of my mailbox and into the outgoing box. Let the post office deal with reclaiming their litter.
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ColdFiltered

join:2005-01-25
Atlanta, GA

Why stop there? Do like some terrorists and put Anthrax in them.


JPCass

join:2001-01-23
Denver, CO

reply to oliphant
said by oliphant:Fine the companies. Companies have of course been resisting measures to hold them responsible for the actions of whoever they contract marketing out to. But this is an example of where the "adspace" is going to be crowded with garbage to the point where even the most legitimate or relatively legitimate marketers will realize they are starting to have a problem getting their message heard and seen. When it gets to that point, I think we'll see the Direct Marketing Association and their large corporate members pushing for whatever measures are necessary to clean things up to the point where it's managable.

When the ultimate advertisers benefiting are US-based, they can be held accountable, and there should be some mechanisms to force most foreign firms to comply with US laws.



cdru
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said by ColdFiltered:

Why stop there? Do like some terrorists and put Anthrax in them.
Don't be a jerk.
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Thaler
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join:2004-02-02
Los Angeles, CA
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Yeah. Reserve your stash for these foreign DNC VoIP exploiters...that s*** is expensive, after all!


reply to oliphant

The product is Nigerian 419 Scams

Sure, there are also people selling legitimate products, like Herbal Fake Viagra Pills, where there might or might not be a US presence, but I've already been called by Nigerian scammers abusing the Internet version of telephone-deaf-relay services, and I expect VOIP will be relatively simple as well. You can't put a 50000% tariff on what the Nigerians are trying to sell, because they're only selling promises they don't plan to deliver on, and in the classic version of the scam, the victim can't even complain to his local police because his involvement was obviously criminal (though newer versions, like fake lotto or the rich widow with cancer wanting to give away her money, don't always have this limitation.)

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