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<title>Topic &#x27;FIOS - First 7 days reviewed&#x27; in forum &#x27;Verizon Fiber Optics&#x27; - dslreports.com</title>
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<description><![CDATA[cbrain posted : The Verizon supplied router handles everything.  All attached computers can be automatically assigned IP and connect.  The router can be set to disconnect at a predetermined idle time or maintain a constant connection.  My connection has been up since my March install except for a power outage that lasted over 16 hours this month. :D]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:44:48 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[arsenic09 posted : How exactly does the PPPOE work?  Being a Comcast user(never used DSL) i only understand the basics of PPPOE(that you 'log' in)<br><br>What exactly is involved?  Is the connection always up? Do they 'kick' you off after a certain amount of idle time etc?<br><br>Or do you just turn on your computer, it automatically gets a IP from your router and your on your way(like Comcast). <br><br>As i type this i can look out my window and see the giant orange fiber roll they were working with all day on our street.  Does anybody else have a rough estimate of how long it took to get service from when they had the trucks out laying fiber?  It must be close..somebody probably 10 blocks away said their phone # came up positive today.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 23:00:22 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Yeap, they roped you in good. Fios with the limied use phone line so they grab ya for an extra $15 a month! Typical Verizon tactic. Would be nice to sack the FIBER_POTS and grab a VOIP line for $20 unlimited/month<br> ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 20:24:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Disclaimer: I am not a licensed electrician. Information supplied below is not intended to replace the knowledge of a qualified professional. Always seek the services of a qualified professional in matters of safety. <br><br>One of the main reasons why the ONT power supply is there is to keep the battery charged for emergency use. The tech that did the install at my house last week explained that they do not want to use GFCI protected circuits or power strips/surge protectors that have an integral circuit breaker to power the ONT battery charger. He explained that both types of power sources to the ONT battery backup are less reliable. Those types of circuits may trip without the home owner noticing and allowing the battery to be drained unnecessarily. Whereas a tripped circuit breaker on the main panel will most likely be quickly noticed and corrected sooner by the home owner because other portions of the circuit would be dead (provided that the ONT power supply is not the only device on that circuit). <br><br>It's the same rationale that the NFPA (National Fire Protection Agency) recommends that you don't run hardwired AC powered smoke detectors all by themselves on a dedicated circuit, or with a GFCI or with a switch. The NFPA recommends that AC powered smoke detectors be wired on the same circuit as a frequently used general purpose lighting circuit so that if the breaker trips on that circuit and the lights don't work, it provides some feedback to the occupant that a critical circuit is not functional.<br><br>I believe you can use a surge protector on the ONT power supply but it is recommended that it is one without an integral circuit breaker. Seek the advice of Verizon before using a surge protector.<br><br>Again, follow the advice of Verizon so that your ONT will be operational in times of emergency and that you'll have 911 service when you need it the most.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 20:11:20 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[johnsp posted : I don't see why a low voltage transformer would require a non-GFI outlet. Unless because the ONT is outdoors, the internal wires will become damp. Maybe they don't want the GFI tripping over a low voltage leak. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:41:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[leesweet posted : Plug?  You mean outlet?  Sometimes/often, the outlet is supplied from a GFCI outlet elsewhere or from a GFCI breaker in the panel.  So, bypassing the outlet may not help. <br><br>Still, I believe NEC states that all outside/garage outlets are GFCI now.  I have a hard time believing that snippet about VZN wanting/requiring a non-GFCI outlet when many NIDs -> ONTs will back onto a garage.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:23:23 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[BD11goal posted : if you really wanted to, you could cut the power plug apart and hardwire it.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:18:51 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[leesweet posted : Great thread, but, since others are linking to it, I feel I need to bump and ask here: how are we supposed to have a non-GFCI outlet available when new construction mandates that garage outlets (where the ONT power will likely come from for many) *be* GFCI?  All of my outlets inside the wall from the current NID are in the garage, and are GFCI.<br><br>I've not heard that requirement before, and wonder if it's actually correct...  I intend on putting a larger UPS before the ONT's, but mandating non-GFCI is a showstopper for any home with the NID 'outside' the garage.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:56:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Shanto20 posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/1210128" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1210128');">ProFiOSDude</a>:</SMALL><br><br>Remember, you can download only as fast as the location you are pulling from can push. If you are d/l from somewhere that maxes out at T1...<br> </DIV>Yes, i know this very well, which is why i was asking if their NEWSSERVER can max out their own fios lines.<br><SMALL>--<br><B><I>Chicago Bulls in 2005</B></I></SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[ProFiOSDude posted : Actually, the ONT has 6 outputs. 4 RJ-11 (phone), 1 RJ-45 (data) and 1 F (video). As far as the interior components are concerned, the charger for the battery backup should be connected to a non-GFCI outlet within 50 feet (wiring length) of the ONT]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 20:38:48 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ProFiOSDude posted : Remember, you can download only as fast as the location you are pulling from can push. If you are d/l from somewhere that maxes out at T1...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[mistrb posted : Do they drill a hole in your house to run the fiber?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2005 17:12:24 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Great.. I am also a Murphy resident..<br><br>No sales efforts from Vz yet to sell the service..<br>only the occasional flyer in the bulk mail<br>flyers..<br><br>What I am really looking for is the fios with static..]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[cbrain posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/1207682" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1207682');">easywriter88</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR> ,,, I just went through 2 weeks of FiOS training and a lot of you sound like you already took the class with your technical know how. I can't wait to start field installaitons.<br> </DIV>Welcome to BBR.  I hope you can add input on these questions.  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 17:23:57 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[cbrain posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/1170264" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1170264');">SirTroth</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR>Quick question... you say VZ blocks someoutgoing mail if not sent with Verizon.net. So, want to get this correct, cause maybe I'm misunderstanding. If I have some Earthlink addresses, I know I cannot send using Earthlink's SMTP server's because you need an Earthlink IP in order to send out. SO, normally, I would use Verizon's SMTP server, and just show the return email addy as being that of Earthlink's. But, I would be using Verizon's SMTP. Is this what you mean would be blocked?<br> </DIV>From my brief tests, it would not work.  I run qmail from a home server.  I did the following tests from my Verizon FioS IP.<br><br>1.&#9;Outlook &#150; Verizon.net email to Verizon smtp &#150; worked<br>2.&#9;Outlook &#150; Comcast.net email & other domains email to Verizon smtp server &#150; failed<br>3.&#9;Outlook &#150; my smtp server directly to receivers server &#150; worked for all tests, fails from Comcast network starting about 2 years ago.<br>4.&#9;Outlook &#150; my smtp server &#150; relay off Verizon smtp server &#150; failed &#150; including Verizon.net email, works from Comcast network.<br>5.&#9;Outlook &#150; my smtp &#150; relay off my server on public IP works.  My default setting for both Verizon and Comcast. <br>6.&#9;Your question &#150; Verizon will allow the connection but any proper smtp server will not allow relay from outside subnet without authorization.<br><br>I never really started using Verizon email because of the way they block some individual incoming email without notice.  <br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/remark,13080510">Verizon email - BBR verification email disappears</A><br><br>Perhaps others with more experience can add input.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 17:20:22 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[JohnA posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/1207682" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1207682');">easywriter88</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR> I can't wait to start field installaitons. </DIV>We can't wait either. Get your butt on the street, and get on with it.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[easywriter88 posted : Holy moley,<br><br>you guys blow me away. I just went through 2 weeks of FiOS training and a lot of you sound like you already took the class with your technical know how. I can't wait to start field installaitons.<br><br>mJ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 13:13:09 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SirTroth posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/160346" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=160346');">cbrain</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR>Mail - Verizon has spam filter rules which block some incoming mail including BroadbandReports and outgoing mail from internal IP's if sent from any email account other than Verizon.net.  Because of this I have not yet started using my Verizon email so I can't comment further.  I can relay mail off my office server or directly connect from several domains from my home mail server without problem.<br> </DIV>Quick question... you say VZ blocks someoutgoing mail if not sent with Verizon.net. So, want to get this correct, cause maybe I'm misunderstanding. If I have some Earthlink addresses, I know I cannot send using Earthlink's SMTP server's because you need an Earthlink IP in order to send out. SO, normally, I would use Verizon's SMTP server, and just show the return email addy as being that of Earthlink's. But, I would be using Verizon's SMTP. Is this what you mean would be blocked?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2005 13:03:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : It sounds so good. Can't wait for it to come to my area. I hate Cox.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dbaer posted : Verizon announced fiber optic in New York on Long Island a few months ago. They forgot to tell everyone calling that they only have it in certain towns on Long Island contrary what the advertisement read.<br><br>Well the fortunate fiber users get 5 megabits down for 35 dollars a month, which I pay for 1.5 megabits down right now.<br><br>I cannot get fiber because verizon does not have it installed in my CO. So I asked the dsl division to lower my price becausethe lucky fiber users get 5 megabits down for 35 dollars a month also. They refused.<br><br>I advise people looking for dsl not to get verizon dsl but to go to cable instead.<br><br>Verizon does not have my area scheduled for fiber this year and it annoys me that I have to pay the price of fiber but not get the 5 megabit speed but have 1.5 down instead.<br><br>Call verizon and tell them to lower their price or open up fiber optic for everyone not just a fortunate few. If many people call, they will get the message.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : How does direct connect help?  He doesn't have a router problem and direct connect won't keep the same IP.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2005 15:06:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[GernBlanston posted : If you have XP, (or any OS capable of it's own PPPOE connection) then you don't need the router at all. Set up a connection on the PC, and have at it. Static IP's are the same way, do a direct connection w/o the router.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Verizon and many other ISP's block port for virus/trojan protection to, not just for people running servers.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[cbrain posted : My FiOS connection has been flawless for 68 days!  Up time, latency, stability and speed all great.  BBR monitor shows 100% up time and very stable pings from all 3 monitors.  All my logs look very good.  My IP changes every time I reboot my router but have never lost or changed an IP between changes.  Currently 37 days up with same IP.<br><br>Mail &#150;  Verizon has spam filter rules which block some incoming mail including BroadbandReports and outgoing mail from internal IP&#146;s if sent from any email account other than Verizon.net.  Because of this I have not yet started using my Verizon email so I can&#146;t comment further.  I can relay mail off my office server or directly connect from several domains from my home mail server without problem.<br><br>Support is enthusiastic and attentive but disorganized.  Verizon provides a special FiOS number but the routing does not yet work.  This hasn&#146;t been an issue because the service works so well I have never needed to make a problem call.<br><br>FiOS would be a perfect residential service if Verizon offered a static IP, DHCP with a stable IP a good alternative.  This is because many networks I access use IP authentication, not to run a server.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2005 13:03:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Spicerunner posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/1177651" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1177651');">bluesky20</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR>So I am assuming the tech will leave all the RG6 alone, they will continue to use 1 Cat6 Runs the Phone, and will utilize the additional Cat6 Run as the Fiber Input, This then runs to the Server Room where I they will put their new router.<br> </DIV>I think you will find that they mount the ONT next to where your old telephone box is, and that is where the Fiber will terminate.  The ONT has 3 outputs, the 2 pair wire cable jack for the phone line, the Cat 5/6 jack for the Internet Cable only that will go to the router inside, and a TV coaxial output for the TV coax to feed to your TV once they turn on the TV service.  I think they will have to adapt your CAT-6 cable connector down to the standard 2 wire pair adapter used by phones (the smaller RG-45 connector to the ONT?).<br><br>And they will generally, I think, locate the UPS somewhere between the ONT and the nearest Electrical outlet, generally inside (although the tech that installed mine said they would try to put it wherever you wanted).]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bluesky20 posted : Hey all,<br><br>I am having FIOS installed on Wednesday here in Wantagh, NY.  I recently ran bundled cable called "speedwrap" from Honeywell to every room+ in my house, all lines home run to a server room, and futuresmart panel in basement.  The speedwrap consists of 2 RG6 Quad, 2 Cat6, and 2 Fiber.  I have all but the Fiber terminated in each room.  I have one run of the speedwrap + 1 additional RG6 designated as incoming service from the outside, where the phone and cable/satellite were brought to the house.  Currently from the outside I'm using one Cat6 for the copper phone, 1 RG6 for the optonline, and 2 RG6 for DirectTV Sat.  So I am assuming the tech will leave all the RG6 alone, they will continue to use 1 Cat6 Runs the Phone, and will utilize the additional Cat6 Run as the Fiber Input, This then runs to the Server Room where I they will put their new router.  I can leave my existing cable/optonline router, & gigabit switch in place for testing for the time being.<br><br>Does this all sound logical?  Where would the Battery Backup unit go, on the outside wall of the house where the connections meet, or in the server room?<br><br>Also, being I have fiber already run to every room in the house, is their anyway to use that instead of the Cat6.  I expect the answer to be unfortunately no.  Is there technology I can purchase after to allow the use of all fiber, and what would the benefits be if any?<br><br>Any input will is appreciated.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Rob]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:05:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[cbrain posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/559414" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=559414');">f38urry</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR>... I'm now using Verizon DSL and when I instituted the service, they said that the software had to be installed. ... </DIV>The Verizon techs told me DSL customers would use their existing account and password with FIOS.  Even without "open" PPPoE, you would enter your current info into the router.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[DevilsReject7 posted : Hey vz rep NY,<br><br>I made a post before, maybe you can help me out, here is the whole story, please help me out. im in keller but in SBC territory, maybe if i can be called a freidnly or something i can have it installed?<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.vfibercenter.com/modules/forums/index.php?showtopic=202" >www.vfibercenter.com/modules/for&middot;&middot;&middot;opic=202</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[f38urry posted : Thanks vznrepNY.  I just did a search on the FIOS forums and found lots of the same advice.  I should have done the research before posting my earlier message.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:34:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : You do not need to use the CD in order for Fios to work.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:25:34 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[f38urry posted : cbrain,<br><br>Were you required to use the FIOS Installation CD that is mentioned on Verizon's website?  I understand that the installation technician that I'm expecting here in Chestnut Ridge, NY on Monday is to have the CD to install on my computer.<br><br>I'm now using Verizon DSL and when I instituted the service, they said that the software had to be installed.  I never did that and my DSL service has been working fine.<br><br>I don't want unnecssary software such as MSN installed on my system and am wondering what, if some software must be installed, the minimum can be.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:55:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Correct - in TX the same thing  - they will get it working on their Dlink 604 or the 624 (wireless) router.  After that - you can switch it out.<br><br>Only issue is plugging your router in and out causes your ONT to go "Screaming" (their terminology).  So if you don't get an IP address after hooking up your new router - call the 800 number and tell hem to reboot the ONT]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:06:31 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : You still have 5 hrs of talk time - but you can buy a cheap back up supply and will continue to work longer - have it hooked to my FIOS ONt and to my PC equiment so my VoIp works as well]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:02:32 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Correct - if you have a voice line - its billed to your verizon phone bill elese your credit card]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:01:13 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : I got my FIOS in Murphy, TX yesterday.  It was great service from start to end.  There are ordering issues, but I have the inside scoop on the orderring process and its being worked on but they handled it very well.<br><br>The service guys were great, they laid an extra Cat 3 wire, so i could plug my Vonage ATA, to the line which was laidto the box outside to mimick a telco line coming to the house - so my whole house is on VoIP on every jack, even my alarm system.<br><br>I have the D-Link 624 I bought on ebay - the same wireless they sell.  It works fine.  I was told the 604 has a different firmware - to enable FIOS.  I check the Dlink website - they don't even have that firmware number listed - so I belive its a special FIOS firware.<br><br>Only issue is if you a playing around and unplug your router - in some cases it drives the ONT crazy - you would need to call the 800 number for them to reboot it.  <br><br>I bought a failover UPS for the ONT as well as my pc devices - so if power ever goes out my phone and alarm systems will continue to work.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:59:58 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : One small problem, Verizon isn't using any repeaters in the network past the central office serving your town.  The whole idea of a PON is that it is completely passive.  That means no active electronics that require power in the local network.<br><br>The battery backups are often discussed, but what most people miss is that the batteries they offer to each home meet or exceed the current state regulations on copper POTS service battery reserves.  Don't kid yourself, lots of people have only 8 hours of battery reserve on their POTS lines today, but you don't see anyone complaining about it.  99% of people don't even know it.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:08:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Nope. No cap so far after d/l-ing several gigs of binaries. It wouldn't surprise me if they do impose caps. The amount of binaries you can d/l with this circuit in a very short period of time is almost ludicrous.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2005 11:45:41 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Shanto20 posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by propellerhead:</SMALL><br><br>I was seeing as high as 14.7Mbps downloads from Verizon's newsgroup servers as calculated by Newsbin Pro. (I've got the 15/2 plan) Typically the d/l speeds run in the 7Mbps to 11Mbps range.<br> </DIV>that's what i like to hear. no need for pay newsgroups then.  theres no download cap right?<br><SMALL>--<br><B><I>Chicago Bulls in 2005</B></I></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:21:49 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : I was seeing as high as 14.7Mbps downloads from Verizon's newsgroup servers as calculated by Newsbin Pro. (I've got the 15/2 plan) Typically the d/l speeds run in the 7Mbps to 11Mbps range.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:03:00 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[cbrain posted : <div class="bquote">said by  Shanto20 <A HREF="/useremail/u/485919"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A><br>Not to burst your bubble, but 2.5 megabits (only like 320kilobytes/sec)a second isnt that fast considering the service itself is 15 megabits/s.  i'd have hoped that the fios service would let you max out your line.  i'm not sayin its slow but more would speed woulda been nicer.<br> </DIV>Burst away.  Most of my usage is text based and that's plenty fast.  My connection is 5/2.<br><br>I just opened news.veizon.net on Verizon and news.comcast.giganews.com on a Comcast workstation.  Comcast/giganews loads noticeably faster on the 4000/384 Comcast connection.  Giganews won't grant me access from Verizon with my Comcast credentials so I can't evaluate the difference the connection would make.  It feels like latency on Verizon&#146;s servers.  Larger files, less difference.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2005 09:25:05 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Shanto20 posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/160346" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=160346');">cbrain</a>:</SMALL><br><br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/485919" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=485919');">Shanto20</a>:</SMALL><br><br>so you were downloading at 2.5 megaBITS/second or megaBYTES?  thanks for the response.<br> </DIV>Yes.  <br><br>Fast...  Very fast!<br><br>That's Mbits/s ;)<br> </DIV>Not to burst your bubble, but 2.5 megabits (only like 320kilobytes/sec)a second isnt that fast considering the service itself is 15 megabits/s.  i'd have hoped that the fios service would let you max out your line.  i'm not sayin its slow but more would speed woulda been nicer.<br><SMALL>--<br><B><I>Chicago Bulls in 2005</B></I></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:58:31 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[cbrain posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/485919" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=485919');">Shanto20</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR>so you were downloading at 2.5 megaBITS/second or megaBYTES?  thanks for the response.<br> </DIV>Yes.  <br><br>Fast...  Very fast!<br><br>That's Mbits/s ;)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:49:28 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Shanto20 posted : so you were downloading at 2.5 megaBITS/second or megaBYTES?  thanks for the response.<br><SMALL>--<br><B><I>Chicago Bulls in 2005</B></I></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:24:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[cbrain posted : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by <a href="/profile/485919" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=485919');">Shanto20</a>:</SMALL><BR><BR>How is newsgroup service? How fast is it?<br> </DIV>I signed on to newsgroups for the first time Friday which led to an amusing exchange with Verizon.<br><br>Newsgroups are easy to setup and fast.  I don't see where Verizon limits total downloading or speed.  I'm looking at binaries for the first time to answer your question so I have limited experience.  I opened my routers Wan traffic graph and it shows sharp peaks of up to 2.5Mbps as I download.<br><br>I had the opportunity to call the Verizon FIOS support line Friday morning when OE hung attempting to download the list of newsgroups.  Their automated response system recognized our new phone number and delivered a recorded message offering FIOS service.  Figuring that one FIOS was enough I pressed several keys looking for a human tech.  I ended up speaking with a very friendly person in the business office.  She said this was the correct number but Verizon had not worked out the routing yet.  She stayed on the line and conferenced in a support tech.  I explained the problem and that I could ping the server.  He verified my settings then unsuccessfully attempted access from his workstation.  He insisted I stay on the line while he checked and put me on hold.  The business rep and I chatted.  He got back and said scheduled maintenance was being inflicted on the server but he couldn&#146;t confirm it was down?  I said no problem, I&#146;d try later.  He assured he would stay on this, asked if he could do anything more, welcomed me to call anytime and exited the conference.  The business rep reviewed our encounter blow by blow and repeated &#147;we could not confirm the server was down.&#148;  She asked if the call was handled to my satisfaction, if she could do more and welcomed any callback when needed.  Enough good cheer that I&#146;ll be smiling for at least a week.  On the other had a simple web status page saying the host was being worked on and I&#146;d have had time for another cup of coffee. A short time later, everything was working.<br><br>Verizon is certainly making an effort.  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:07:13 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Ztp1112 posted : Why not buy you own batt back up if your house has power so does everything in it?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:02:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : There's the achilles heal to the fios with phone service on the ONT: its a digital powered unit, thus your phone is packet based, but they can still charge you all those fees and taxes even though there isn't much of a hill of beans between the way fios delivers phone and verizon delivers phone.... both will go out if there is no power. But then again.. when we had that major blackout.. phone sevice was very spotty at best, and dead after 24 hours becuase the cost of generators to run over 24 hours is simply nor worth the cost of generation based on profit ratio.. so even that was best effort... it took almost a week to get proper power back into the power grid during that anomoly.. I personally believe they need a 24 hour+ batter backup system for this to really be reasonably reliable.... which is to say you'd need what 4-6 batteries to shove in there or hook up in series? nah, it needs to get better... insist on a better backup system or cut out those taxes and fees and switch to voip.. (take note: verizon's voip is limited to about 3000 minutes a month pseudo normal usage)<br>It just cries out for making a minimum phone line service and getting voip from a competitor for less... they should just give consumers what they want/need. Better terms on the phone service and better guaranteed service or keep your copper... (which I've heard they will do if you insist- but if your paying those taxes and fees.. KEEP THE COPPER until they get a better backup system) otherwise, they win (ie make more money off you then they should) and you get less reliable service for it...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:19:03 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Shanto20 posted : How is newsgroup service? How fast is it?<br>Thanks.<br><SMALL>--<br><B><I>Chicago Bulls in 2005</B></I></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:32:02 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[cbrain posted : Thanks.  That's a little over 13 miles without repeater.  Verizon may have the capacity to start selling excess power.<br><br>Comcast Cable uses amplifiers that are out when the local power fails.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 15:12:49 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : cbrain Fios fiber is powered from the Central office.  The power unit and backup only powers the ONT at the side of your house.  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:31:01 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[JohnA posted : <br>Your outlet powers your ONT. The CO powers the equipment on their end. There is no power required in between, unless you get out to 70,000' or so, and a repeater is required. Just one of the many things they love about fiber.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:51:11 EDT</pubDate>
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