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 Combat ChuckToo Many CannibalsPremium
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Re: How long before... said by kpatz:How long before virus/worm writers start threatening antivirus companies who add detection for their viruses? I can hear it now... "Sobig is not a virus, it's not a worm... it's a tool! Now remove detection before we sue you!" Bleah... Won't happen because the antivirus vendors never attempted to mash the definitions of legitimate and illegitimate software together, and never chose to detect and remove as a virus non-malicious software that let the end-user make an informed choice as to whether to install or not.
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| said by Combat Chuck:Won't happen because the antivirus vendors never attempted to mash the definitions of legitimate and illegitimate software together, and never chose to detect and remove as a virus non-malicious software that let the end-user make an informed choice as to whether to install or not. No offense Chuck, but these same "legitimate" companies are using exploits to get their s*** on their computer, bypassing any chance of the end-user making an informed choice whatsoever.
Heck, even when installing the software "legitimately", they don't list these important facts (ie. ad-supported, builds a data profile of the user, etc.) on page one...it's buried somewhere on page 485, subsection G, footnote #24 of the EULA, written in legaleese double-talk.
Companies like Hotbar are NOT being honest with their "customers", and for these very same reasons, end-users are quite often made incapable of making an informed choice in the matter. Maybe when (or if) a software company starts conforming to the Adware label, we could then build a case for not lumpin Adware & Spyware into the security threat known as Crapware. Until then, these companies can go cry me a river for viciously ripping out their software from any computer I can. | |
Combat ChuckToo Many CannibalsPremium
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Erie, PA | said by Thaler:Maybe when (or if) a software company starts conforming to the Adware label, we could then build a case for not lumpin Adware & Spyware into the security threat known as Crapware. Until then, these companies can go cry me a river for viciously ripping out their software from any computer I can. How about we stop muddying definitions and call spyware, spyware and adware, adware.
That's why everyone thinks I now support spyware, because you guys muddied the definitions and have thus made it almost impossible for anyone to argue any point with regard to spyware, adware and the differences; so the popular opinion wins by default.
The legitimate companies can't release legitimate ad-ware (in it's original definition) because of the undue baggage you've lumped on the word "adware", just look at the crap Qualcomm took when Eudora mail suddenly showed up with an empty directory that was named "ADS".
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| said by Combat Chuck:How about we stop muddying definitions and call spyware, spyware and adware, adware. How about they give us reason to not call their software "spyware"? The terms in their EULAs admit that they are tracking your useage, and that is spying IMHO..and apparantly others too.
said by Combat Chuck:The legitimate companies can't release legitimate ad-ware (in it's original definition) because of the undue baggage you've lumped on the word "adware", just look at the crap Qualcomm took when Eudora mail suddenly showed up with an empty directory that was named "ADS". Hmm...I wasn't aware of that case, as that would be the first I've ever seen of an ad-based software not utilizing stealth installs, or deceptive EULAs.
However, legitimate companies have no problem releasing advertising-supported software because...so far, it hasn't really shown up anywhere. You have easily 100 spyware-running "Adware" companies to every potential 1 that legitimately is Adware...and this is the user's problem? Get "Adware" companies to clean up their act (ie. call a spade a spade), and then you might find trust from the internet. Until then, we can't blame people for being over protective of their systems in an "Adware" market full of companies peddling malicious software. | |
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