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Aquias

@broadviewnet.net

Adware vs Spyware...

Alright,

After having skimmed this thread I've seen a few things I'll comment on.

First things first, Chuck does have a point. There are a few programs that are legit adware. They do inform you that they are installing and that they will track what you do online, in addition that they'll be forcing pop-ups to your system.

On that same thread, I believe that I've seen two such programs. There are several layers to this entire arguement that need to be looked at to give an accurate account of where people stand...

1. Spyware vs Adware - Are these different? Yes, fundamentally they SHOULD be different. The problem is, is that many of the companies claiming to be Adware are utilizing underhanded tactics to get installed to a system, THIS (and not the community at large) is what has caused so many people to start lumping these terms together. Because I claim to be legit and hide my true intent in the EULA doesn't mean you are.

2. EULA's - This, for me, gets me "hopping" mad. And this blame I point at all vendors. A 900 page EULA really isn't necessary and if it is, there NEEDS to be a "condensed" version of this. Something that doesn't take ten hours to read and fourty hours of research to understand. EULA's need to be re-worked, immediately, to allow for an easier understanding of what is implied by clicking that "I accept button". Adding a line in the middle of page 75 "By installing this software you give us your firstborn, in addition any attempts to uninstall this product will launch a hidden file to re-install this program" is a bunch of crap. Especially, as already stated, when several of these companies imply a very different intention at the begining of their EULA.

3. Removal - Sorry Chuck, you lose on this. NO, NONE, NADA spyware removal tool blanket removes all entries, unless I tell it to. You're complaint is that I'm not giving YOU a choice?! What about the crap that hides itself in the EULA of another program to install and then I cannot remove it? If I'm understanding your perspective, if it's "Adware" nothing should detect it? Then you've taken away MY choice. ALL malware/spyware/adware should be detected by removal programs because I have the CHOICE of letting my software remove it or not...

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