Party girl throws big HIV scare into military in Canadian Chat http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r12984774 en Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:59:43 EDT Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:59:43 EDT Re: Party girl throws big HIV scare into military http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13044025 Viggen93 :
said by Anav See Profile:

Pork chop? LOL
At this rate the Army may have to actively recruit gay soldiers......, that pork chop would have been appealing as chopped liver ;-)
Somehow, judging by a few Gay friends I have, don't think if the Army actively recruited Gay men it would solve the problem. And since HIV is easier to pass around during unprotected sex during homosexual encounters, then woman to man in heterosexual situations, it may make things worse. The points I have stated are medical fact, before anyone goes accusing me of harboring hatred for gay men.
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At this rate the Army may have to actively recruit gay soldiers......, that pork chop would have been appealing as chopped liver ;-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13032140 Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:39:38 EDT Re: But her sister likes her anyway http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13030565 Viggen93 :
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»www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/WinnipegS···sun.html
Jennifer Murphy is no femme fatale and portraying her as a promiscuous AIDS carrier bent on taking victims is unfair, says her sister. "My sister is a very, very good woman, and she would never ever do anything to hurt anybody," Amanda Murphy said in an interview with the Toronto Star from her home in St. John's.

"She's been living with AIDS for 14 years and if she wanted to start spreading the HIV virus she would have done it years ago."
Which is exactly why Jennifer told all her sex partners that she has HIV/AIDS (not sure how long she's been full-blown). I'm sure Amanda can easily put herself in the shoes of the family members of those affected, after all, 14 years ago she had to do the same thing, fact is, Jennifer could have any number of motives, spreading her pain to others is just one of them (and if she told her partners, there goes her nookie, certainly would make me say thanks but no thanks).

It's a black and white case really, Did Jennifer engage in unprotected sex with SoldierX? And did she tell him she has HIV? Yes, if she wanted to deliberately infect men with HIV, she could have done it years ago, but here is a single woman sleeping around an Armed forces base, may as well tie a pork chop around her neck and throw her over the fence at the SPCA.
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Thank goodness, medical evidence and science will have no say in the outcome. ;-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13024695 Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:30:43 EDT But her sister likes her anyway http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13023984 TKJunkMail : »www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/WinnipegS···sun.html
Jennifer Murphy is no femme fatale and portraying her as a promiscuous AIDS carrier bent on taking victims is unfair, says her sister. "My sister is a very, very good woman, and she would never ever do anything to hurt anybody," Amanda Murphy said in an interview with the Toronto Star from her home in St. John's.

"She's been living with AIDS for 14 years and if she wanted to start spreading the HIV virus she would have done it years ago."
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Condoms are plentiful for Canadian Forces soldiers, I remember the field hospitals and ambulances having ample supplies, and handing them out when the medics were checking your feet (I was an Infantryman, I didn't go anywhere unless it was in combat boots).
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Those soldiers involved not only had to have sat through lectures but had the availability of free condoms. It doesn't sound like anyone had a gun to their head.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13019455 Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:34:11 EDT Re: Party girl throws big HIV scare into military http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13005634 Viggen93 : Rough sex could cause breakage (and I really mean this, so I have been able to conclude with friends who are regularly able to break them). I think the terrible thing about this case is that Jennifer Murphy (HIV+ woman, I see no need to hide her identity, unlike the Government) was infected at 18 by a man who knew he had HIV but never told her.

Apparently, she just showed up six weeks prior at CFB Borden and making advances on Soldiers, very rarely going home alone. I feel fortunate that while I was based at Borden, I never had the urge to hop into bed with any piece of skirt that presented itself (though it may have had more to do with me being incredibly shy). Come to think of it, I was never shown any videos about the importance of using condoms while I was in the Army, it was something I just knew.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13005634 Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:47:22 EDT Re: Party girl throws big HIV scare into military http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12993085 FishPants :
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said by Bender2000 See Profile:

for one they are about 97% effective against pregnancy. If you can have a baby with them, you can get HIV. Condoms can also break.
The reason they are not 100% effective is because of breakage. If they don't break, 0% risk of pregnancy or HIV.
Not entirely true, spillage and leak out the top apparently can happen. We are talking a tiny weeny (get it.. HAH!) percentage though.
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said by Bender2000 See Profile:

for one they are about 97% effective against pregnancy. If you can have a baby with them, you can get HIV. Condoms can also break.
The reason they are not 100% effective is because of breakage. If they don't break, 0% risk of pregnancy or HIV.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12992282 Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:42:34 EDT Re: Party girl throws big HIV scare into military http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12992223 kim :
said by Ian See Profile:

...breakage risk as the Latex, or Polyurethane, etc.. is stretched too much. Or so I've heard.
Now how am I supposed to make a serious comment when you set yourself up like this Ian See Profile?? :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12992223 Thu, 24 Mar 2005 10:35:51 EDT Re: Party girl throws big HIV scare into military http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12991658 mr weather : I would've said "rub one out" because it doesn't sound as crass, but sure! :D
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said by dirtyjeffer See Profile:

nowadays, its just safer to beat it yourself...cheaper, and safer.;)
You mean like jerk-off ?? :D
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said by Ian See Profile:

said by lawrence171 See Profile:
The usual cause for this to occur in a man or woman, I understand, is having another type of VD.
HSV and HPV REALLY make you susceptible to other STD's.
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said by Anav See Profile:

said by Ian:
One reason for the huge rate of infection in sub-Saharan Africa and certain Asian Countries is the high rate of "other" STD's increasing the transmission rate of HIV.


No the reason is the unchecked abuse, and rape of women, the aids stds are just byproducts of a systemic culture of sexual assault.
vaginal tearing is the #1 rape way that it would get into the blood stream.

anything thicker then spit is able to transfer easily(excluding mucus) but enough spit can transfer it(someone ballparked it at 10liters)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12988184 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 21:05:51 EDT Re: Party girl throws big HIV scare into military http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12987887 Anav :
said by Ian:
One reason for the huge rate of infection in sub-Saharan Africa and certain Asian Countries is the high rate of "other" STD's increasing the transmission rate of HIV.


No the reason is the unchecked abuse, and rape of women, the aids stds are just byproducts of a systemic culture of sexual assault.
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said by lawrence171 See Profile:

how do you, exactly, use a condum correctly?

I was under the catholic system, so, sex-ed wasn't taught in Grade 9.

Don't u just put it on, and start doing?
Well, it isn't Rocket Surgery, but it's important to make sure no air is trapped in the reservoir tip when rolling it on. Correctly sized is another important thing, although probably not an issue for most. Too large a condom could technically increase the risk of it falling off and too small a condom increases breakage risk as the Latex, or Polyurethane, etc.. is stretched too much. Or so I've heard. I'm saving myself for marriage. :p

said by xanthuos See Profile:

"Also, they are not 100% effective in preventing the spread of HIV. The one positive thing these soldiers have going for them is that the rate of transmissions from an infected female to a male is much lower than the opposite situation."
True. One of the main reasons for this is that the virus requires direct entry to the bloodstream, so even if a condom breaks or in unprotected sex, a man (or woman) would require a point of entry into the bloodstream like a cut or scrape, open sore..etc.

The usual cause for this to occur in a man or woman, I understand, is having another type of VD. One reason for the huge rate of infection in sub-Saharan Africa and certain Asian Countries is the high rate of "other" STD's increasing the transmission rate of HIV.
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said by BonezX See Profile:

said by Reactance See Profile:

said by 72276539 See Profile:

Condoms do break, had one break a few weeks ago dammit. Woman got tested prior to us sleeping so if she is telling the truth I'm fine, of course in about a month I'm gonna get tested myself.
though if u even get a high quality condom also? there is a chance it would break??
most reason they would break is user error.
There is also manufacturing error. :uhh: Anything man makes can be made broken.
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I was under the catholic system, so, sex-ed wasn't taught in Grade 9.

Don't u just put it on, and start doing?
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said by Reactance See Profile:

said by 72276539 See Profile:

Condoms do break, had one break a few weeks ago dammit. Woman got tested prior to us sleeping so if she is telling the truth I'm fine, of course in about a month I'm gonna get tested myself.
though if u even get a high quality condom also? there is a chance it would break??
most reason they would break is user error.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12986740 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:36:52 EDT Re: Party girl throws big HIV scare into military http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12986696 Reactance :
said by 72276539 See Profile:

Condoms do break, had one break a few weeks ago dammit. Woman got tested prior to us sleeping so if she is telling the truth I'm fine, of course in about a month I'm gonna get tested myself.
though if u even get a high quality condom also? there is a chance it would break??
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said by LaZ3R See Profile:

Condoms don't exactly prevent HIV
What do you mean? How exactly don't they prevent HIV?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12986185 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:31:07 EDT Re: Party girl throws big HIV scare into military http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12985814 BonezX : HIV is transfered through bodily fluids (HIV is the precourser to aids), it can be transfered easily through ejaculate and blood. with a condom it would be one hell of a fluke for it to transfer.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12985814 Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:48:22 EDT Re: Party girl throws big HIV scare into military http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,12985427 LaZ3R : Condoms don't exactly prevent HIV, but it's a lot safer non the less :D
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Canada's Department of National Defense has issued a nationwide warning to soldiers who may have had sex with a fun-loving woman who has AIDS.

Jennifer Murphy, 31, has been charged with two counts of aggravated assault after allegedly engaging in unprotected sex at Canadian Forces Base Borden without informing her partner she was HIV-positive.

The national alert was put out because the Borden base, 100 miles north of Toronto, has around 3,200 teaching and support staff, and another 15,000 soldiers, sailors and air personnel rotate through every year as students before being deployed elsewhere.

Investigators with the Canadian Forces National Investigation Service told the Toronto Star their probe has left them uncertain how many soldiers Murphy may have slept with and possibly infected with HIV.

Various soldiers contacted by the newspaper said Murphy was a fun-loving woman from Newfoundland, a fixture at parties on the base, a regular at the bars in town, and one who seldom left parties on her own.
Hope most of the soldiers listened to all those lectures soldiers get on using condoms. If not, oh well!!
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