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tomkb
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join:2000-11-15
Tampa, FL
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how come

Hasn't a vcr been invented yet with a cheap 300gig hard-drive?

I'm not talking tivo where you pay a monthly subsription, I mean just a vcr with a hard drive?


Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Austin, TX
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Well, there aren't any VCRs with hard drives, but there are several alternatives to the monthly subscription fee boxes. They just aren't user friendly enough for mainstream.
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Rickez
Goinginsane

join:2000-09-02
Three Rivers, MA
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"Well, there aren't any VCRs with hard drives, but there are several alternatives to the monthly subscription fee boxes. They just aren't user friendly enough for mainstream."

please share more info on this qoute...
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Carl
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join:2004-07-21
Krotz Springs, LA

reply to tomkb
This is called a DVR



Camelot One
Premium,MVM
join:2001-11-21
Austin, TX
kudos:1

reply to Rickez
There is Windows Media Center for one, ATI has their own card/software combo. Basically you just need a computer with a capture card, and software that will download guide data.
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davejs

join:2001-01-12
Los Alamitos, CA

reply to tomkb
Actually there is! It is relatively straight forward to build your own based on the MythTV open source software. MythTV PVR(DVR)software has both fast forward and commercial skip.

See the EFFs HDTV-PVR Cookbook webpage below.

Step by step. A full Personal Digital Video Recorder to put any 300gig hard-drive to work. HiDef or Standard. Though it may become difficult to get the HiDef receiver cards after this June.

»www.eff.org/broadcastflag/cookbook/

This is a Linux based system that is compatible with a wide range of receiver cards.

Cheers,

DaveJS



nekote

join:2000-12-16
USA

Thanks for the link to the eff.org site.

I had no clue we are 91 days from the July 1, 2005 ban on sale or distribution on certain electronic equipment.

Interesting snippet:
The essence of the FCC's rule is in 47 CFR 73.9002(b) and the following sections:

"No party shall sell or distribute in interstate commerce a Covered Demodulator Product that does not comply with the Demodulator Compliance Requirements and Demodulator Robustness Requirements."

So, if you *imported* non-conforming devices and only sold them *in-state*, this rule would not apply? Kinda' like SouthWest Air's initial way to avoid the then CAB (Civil Aviation Board) by only operating (initially) within the state of Texas?
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fireflier
Coffee. . .Need Coffee
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join:2001-05-25
Limbo

reply to Carl

said by Carl:

This is called a DVR
Exactly! I can't believe how few people seem to know of these:

»www.crutchfield.com/S-PiV58X1Fn8···3DMRE85H (just one example). I've had a Pioneer DVR-510H (a Matsushita company--same one that owns Panasonic) for about two years now and it's great. From what I can see, the panasonic models are equally featured, only difference is they use DVD-R and DVD-RAM where Pioneer uses DVD+R and DVD+RW.

Has a DVD player/recorder with a built-in 80 GB HDD--newer ones have much larger drives but I can still store upwards of 60 hours of video depending on the quality settings I use. Fast forwards through commercials at the touch of a button. Easy to program and no banner ads while fast forwarding. I can move recordings from the HDD to a DVD and vice versa and if needed record directly to DVD. It can even record to and from a camcorder with an i.Link (IEEE 1394) connection.

Not knocking the folks who enjoy building PCs to do the recording (they might have a little more flexibility with programming), but this tiny little recorder does a fantastic job and I don't have to apply patches and updates every 4 months or worry about it crashing midway through recording House M.D.

If Tivo or your cable DVR pisses you off, Pioneer, Panasonic, Sony and others still make independent capable DVRs that let you maintain control of what you watch and how you watch it.
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dellboy
Yeah...I Dont Know
Premium
join:2003-02-15
Topeka, KS

reply to tomkb
your computer can be a glorified vcr if you would like.

»mirror.ati.com/products/hdtvwond···dex.html

record in HD do what ever you want with it.......dosnt get much more simple than this



Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY

reply to tomkb

said by tomkb:

Hasn't a vcr been invented yet with a cheap 300gig hard-drive?

I'm not talking tivo where you pay a monthly subsription, I mean just a vcr with a hard drive?
Yes and you are typing on it. ATI Radeon 9800 video card, or similar, and 120 gig hard drive or more. With this setup you can record Video to your hearts content.
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NOCMan
MacChatter
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Colorado Springs, CO

reply to Rickez
There's also MythTV just google for it.



rtcpenguin
Premium
join:2001-01-21
Fairfax, VA

Seriously. Screw time warner and build your own.


kdhamann

join:2003-11-08
Medina, OH

reply to Camelot One
There are a number of stand alone dvd burners with hard drives. Panasonic DMRE85HS is one. Functionally equivalent to a "VCR with hard drive" if using DVD rewritable discs.

Or you could build a computer with a capture card and MythTV (Linux), SageTV (Windows), BeyondTV (Windows), etc.


rdiedrich
Premium
join:2002-11-25
Mchenry, IL

reply to tomkb
Walmart has the ILO DVDRHD04 which is a DVDR with a 80 GB Hard Drive.

_-Ledhead-_

PS Firmware hacks are available too to make it region free and macrovision free


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