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TheMadSwede
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join:2001-01-30
Holland, MI

Over and underestimating...

The HAM people are overestimating the importance of HAM radio. The HAM-radio-haters are underestimating its importance. The tweeners don't care enough to post about it.

All sides, save those who do not care, are unwilling to compromise or recognize faults in their arguments. Thus we're left with a useless, unwinnable debate that's been had for too long on BBR.

ZZZZZZZ....
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N3EVL

join:2004-12-13
Shrewsbury, MA

Unwinnable? maybe; useless? not at all: there seems to be a never-ending stream of inane, silly or just plain uninformed arguments that must be challenged - wouldn't want those people to go away thinking they were correct;)

Hams may be the most vocal BPL opponents but there are a lot of users of that chunk of spectrum between 2 and 80 MHz that aren't quite as willing as some would like to have their rights to use that spectrum interfered with and will defend those rights - why would you expect it to be otherwise?

Apparently the EU think some kind of progress has been made on the interference issue; I'm waiting to hear what they think they have achieved. I guess we should count this as progress indeed considering the state of denial the BPL industry appears to have been in on this issue since day one. Do they now admit there is an interference problem to be addressed?

Make a convincing argument (with supporting technical facts) concerning how the interference will go away and you'll have a captive audience of hams. Make silly comments suggesting that YOUR right to broadband is somehow so important that it's perfectly OK to coincidentaly trash another resource and you'll have a real argument.


Purplemaid

join:2005-03-09
Tucson, AZ

Good response. Like many others they do not test the depth of the water is b4 jumping in. Infact we have a "coridor" here in Tucson that even local emergency services have problems with uniterupital comunication. I would like too see their respnse when they are on the receiving end of help that could get too them in time due to RFI and QRM.



rf_engineer

join:2003-08-04
USA

reply to TheMadSwede

said by TheMadSwede:

All sides, save those who do not care, are unwilling to compromise or recognize faults in their arguments. Thus we're left with a useless, unwinnable debate that's been had for too long on BBR.
I've grown tired of the debates here as well, although you'll find most of the pro-BPL banter is "give me fast cheap broadband in the country now" types of arguments. Ham radio certainly isn't the end-all-be-all of communications but it has its place, but BPL is far from what its proponents claim it to be.

Only time will tell who wins this, but with the BPL hype-athon in its third year, it's not much beyond several test beds and a couple commercial sites. DSL and cable grew much, much faster than this and that was arguably before broadband had widespread acceptance.


TheMadSwede
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join:2001-01-30
Holland, MI

Well said. I personally don't know enough about either technology to make technical arguments for or against, but when I see some people so unwilling to even discuss a matter and other so willing to dive into something with no thought whatsoever, both sides end up reeking of cognitive dissonance and/or groupthink.
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