 LeeBeeIt's Dark Out There
join:2003-06-18
Swissieland
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| reply to CadesDaddy
Re: theft! I disagree somewhat - if you and a neighbour sit and watch cable PPV tv and you've collaborated to pay only once, is that theft? If you decide in winter months to live together to save heating costs, is that theft?
If the product in question was more competitively priced, would this situation exist? It strikes me as a benefit of the free market economy we all love. TOS certainly I assume would more likely forbid reselling of bandwidth, not neighbours sharing.
Certainly leeching (»dictionary.reference.com/search?q=leeching -vs- »dictionary.reference.com/search?q=leaching) is questionable; after all, is the leechee (if you can be called this) as responsible as the leecher for this? The whole licence-to-be-connected issue has been debated re. wireless/spyware/etc - should the victim be forced to be qualified before running wireless and connecting to the internet?
Blame, educations, standards are just some of the many elements of this discussion. |
| I have to say I agree. If you live together or watch a movie together, you are in the same unit. If you share broadband via wireless with your neighbor, you are stealing. Taking your notebook over to his place and hooking up is one thing. Being on it 24/7 is another. |
| reply to LeeBee
LeeBee. Please disagree, but you are still wrong. You make the comparison of watching PPV in a home with a friend or neighbor. And, living together to share heat... You can't compare apples and oranges to make your point valid.
The service you purchase is "FOR USE AT THE ADDRESS YOU HAVE SUBSCRIBED TO IT FOR"... If you want to have people over to share your service (ie: heat, cable, telephone, etc) IN YOUR HOME where IT WAS INTENDED, then you are fine. It's when you bring your service outside the home to another address is when you are breaking the service agreement.
Another example. If I came to your home and you wanted to hook up your cable tv to a mother in law house and it had a different address, it would be another account. You also would not be able to string a cable from your house to your neighbor's house. (A great example, becuase when you do it wireless, you do the same thing)
Hey, what about cordless telephone? Having a corless handset at your neighbors, is that breaking the law? Here is where grey area comes to play. What was the "Intent?" Was the intent do you to bring your phone with you in case you got a call? Then you are fine, however, if you left it there for the neighbor to have as a "regular" user, then you are in violation since you are "establishing the intent" for your neighbor to have a ready service in the home that is not where it was subscribed.
Now, what if you have Cable TV and you string a line outsite the back for a private party? Are you in the wrong? No, unless you "charge" for the viewing.
What if you have it in the FRONT YARD and let people watch it... are you in the wrong! You betchya!
There are MANY MANY tests that apply to certain uses. It's NOT all cut and dry as you guys want to think it is. There are MANY different entities that can come into play. As far as the Cable TV examples above... the Cable company doesn't care AS MUCH as does, say HBO, if you are charging for the service.
It's not as simple as you think.
Bottom line.. you bought a service to use WITHIN YOUR ADDRESS, HOME, ETC.. it was NEVER ALLOWED to be used outside the boundaries.
Guys, it's simple.. READ YOUR AGREEMENTS! They are not just useless bathroom wipes... you are given them... and nothing is hidden.. people just don't care to read them or pay attention until it's usually too late.
What ever happened to personal responsibility.. I guess that doesn't exist anymore. |
| reply to LeeBee
no,it's not...because you agreed to broadcast it in your home,, yuo can have friends over to watch it no prob..trouble would come if you charge them for it |
