| Not really 1 Gbs It nothing but a LAN, the actual internet pipe is much much smaller, and there is limited access c'mon this is Hong Kong China, they're communist you actually think they'd get the full internet? |
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| said by FTCXtreme:It nothing but a LAN, the actual internet pipe is much much smaller, and there is limited access c'mon this is Hong Kong China, they're communist you actually think they'd get the full internet? Considering not every server in the world is in the US or Europe I'd say it is still pretty much a huge pipe.
Not to mention that many servers can't handle sending data that fast anyway. And also I believe hk is one of the areas that does get unrestricted net access.
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Hmmm...Communist China 1Gbs
Good ol (crooked as hell) USA free market
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said by FTCXtreme:It nothing but a LAN, the actual internet pipe is much much smaller, and there is limited access c'mon this is Hong Kong China, they're communist you actually think they'd get the full internet? Hong Kong has different rules (as stipulated by the British upon handing it over) which basically make HK a pretty free zone within China.
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said by FTCXtreme:It nothing but a LAN, the actual internet pipe is much much smaller, and there is limited access c'mon this is Hong Kong China, they're communist you actually think they'd get the full internet? That's the reason I think I still can't get FIOS here in this greatest country in the world, this free, good old, USA... Looks like if we ever want to get near that kind of speed, we may have become a communist country.
USA! USA! USA!
BTW, if you don't know what you talking about, or can't get what you want, please don't just blame the communist, blame Usama Bin Laden next time will you?
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join:2004-01-23
Toronto | reply to FTCXtreme
said by FTCXtreme:It nothing but a LAN, the actual internet pipe is much much smaller, and there is limited access c'mon this is Hong Kong China, they're communist you actually think they'd get the full internet? It's shared like all residential internet is. It's not a LAN, but I see what you're saying. But come on, don't tell me that 1 Gbps within China equates to 3 Mbps outside China. |
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join:2000-07-16
Richardson, TX | reply to FTCXtreme
C'mon this is Hong Kong China ... said by FTCXtreme: c'mon this is Hong Kong China, they're communist you actually think they'd get the full internet? You know, you ought to know something about a place before you make a plain dumb blind comment. I've lived there for 20 years and there is not a single blocked website in Hong Kong, period. In addition, The Wall Street Journal / Heritage Foundation lists Hong Kong as the worlds freest economy and it has been so for years, before and after the return to mainland China.
The USA is 13th. See »www.heritage.org/research/featur···ries.cfm |
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Re: Not really 1 Gbs said by FTCXtreme:It nothing but a LAN, the actual internet pipe is much much smaller, and there is limited access c'mon this is Hong Kong China, they're communist you actually think they'd get the full internet? Yes, and we all know China is on the cutting edge. Let's see, 800,000 people out of 1.25 billion people have access to this service. That's .06% of the people have access to that? Wow, that's really great. How many of those 1.25 billion people have access to and can afford any broadband, much less own a computer??
It's nice that they have a PR project such as this, but lets look at the big picture.
I'll take what I have and stay in the USA, thank you very much! 
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1 edit | said by burgermeister:said by FTCXtreme:It nothing but a LAN, the actual internet pipe is much much smaller, and there is limited access c'mon this is Hong Kong China, they're communist you actually think they'd get the full internet? Yes, and we all know China is on the cutting edge. Let's see, 800,000 people out of 1.25 billion people have access to this service. That's .06% of the people have access to that? Wow, that's really great. How many of those 1.25 billion people have access to and can afford any broadband, much less own a computer?? It's nice that they have a PR project such as this, but lets look at the big picture. I'll take what I have and stay in the USA, thank you very much! It would be 40% of the 2.2 million population.
the USA can't even manage to give 5mbps to that much of a percentage. |
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Corona, CA | reply to CableConvert
Sure...like why don't you move to Communist China if you are so dissatisfied with the 'crooked as hell' free market.
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said by rideboarder:It would be 40% of the 2.2 million population. the USA can't even manage to give 5mbps to that much of a percentage. But China doesn't have 2.2 million people, they have 1.25 billion. Hong Kong is now controlled by China.
Also, let's talk about density. There are valid reasons that the USA doesn't have 5meg to 40% of the people. The distance and the fact that most people wouldn't buy it. No company is going to pay for all that fiber only to have a few geeks use it. Don't forget, most people could give a rats what kind of connection they have and they're fine with cable, DSL, or dialup. Are you personally going to pay for 100 miles of fiber to be run so you can download faster?
Is it cheaper to wire up a high rise apartment or trench up a large subdivision? Is it cheaper to run a 20 feet of cable between the walls to each home, or is it cheaper to trench to 100's of feet to each house? Is it cheaper to run a cable under the street from building to building, or is it cheaper to run the cable miles between subdivisions? It's so simple. I don't get why people don't seem to understand the difference. They're not wiring rural areas here.
The population density of all of Hong Kong is 6579 people per square kilometer while the US is 32 people per square kiometer. Why don't people get it?
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said by oliphant:Sure...like why don't you move to Communist China if you are so dissatisfied with the 'crooked as hell' free market. Had to give you a thumbs up on that one!
When did high speed broadband become the standard at which a country and its government were judged??? 
If that's the case, maybe the USA should also come up with some kind of token project to impress everyone. Of course, I sure as well wouldn't want to pay for it, so lets not.
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gambon
join:2004-07-06
Alhambra, CA | reply to burgermeister
If you've read the actual article it said "Hong Kong", and not china no? It would the same as saying in California a company will wire up 60% of residents with 1gbps. Heck that alone would be quiet a nice incentive to move to California. |
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First, anyone that believes that the current major US broadband providers are not involved in collusive activity to stifle competition needs to wake up. This is why most of Asia has left us in the dust. I was not bashing "free market" economics. The problem is, we dont have it when it comes to broadband. Money buys government which in turn imposes regulation that favors the incumbents, at the expense of the consumer. Its in the news all the time.
Oh, and by the way...bite me
move to communist china indeed. I'd be careful...bible thumpin and snake handling are next in your future if you keep this up |
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Toilet paper isn't used anywhere but in the U.S.  |
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Oh yes, If you had constipation, don’t blame the toilet paper.
You could blame the toilet paper if you were eating it. |
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gambon
join:2004-07-06
Alhambra, CA | reply to burgermeister
While I agree with most of what you said but at this point the ratio difference is about 20mps(FIOS which only covers a small fraction of household) and the general high end is about 3mps as compared to the 1000mpgs. Even with the large area and other limitations the difference in speed is a bit much.
Let take your 32ppl per square km vs the 6579 ppl per square km which comes out to a ratio of roughly 1:200 but on the other hand we look at the broadband difference which is a ratio of 1:300 in the best case 1:50(FIOS). Until FIOS is covers more area we are still on a huge losing battle versus the oriental area in terms of broadband. |
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Hong Kong is about the size of Boston or New York. So think of it as a city wide LAN with alot of people. I would never ever wanna move to Hong Kong. Im 6'4", It'd be like godzilla movies you see 5 foot tall Chinese people running WHITEZILLA WHITEZILLA! But seriously its too crowded. Why do you think I live in a small rural town in Massachusetts with 45 people per sq mile. I'd rather have alot of Land and privacy then Broadband anyday. NO NEIGHBORS MEANS YOU CAN KEEP ON PARTYING ALL NIGHT LONG! Just watch out for Bears and Wolves. Hong Kong is like A Boston with 10 million asain people. Its like watching Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory, with 10 million oompaloompas. |
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join:2004-01-06
NYC Metro | reply to burgermeister
said by burgermeister:said by rideboarder:It would be 40% of the 2.2 million population. the USA can't even manage to give 5mbps to that much of a percentage. But China doesn't have 2.2 million people, they have 1.25 billion. Hong Kong is now controlled by China. Also, let's talk about density. There are valid reasons that the USA doesn't have 5meg to 40% of the people. The distance and the fact that most people wouldn't buy it. No company is going to pay for all that fiber only to have a few geeks use it. Don't forget, most people could give a rats what kind of connection they have and they're fine with cable, DSL, or dialup. Are you personally going to pay for 100 miles of fiber to be run so you can download faster? Is it cheaper to wire up a high rise apartment or trench up a large subdivision? Is it cheaper to run a 20 feet of cable between the walls to each home, or is it cheaper to trench to 100's of feet to each house? Is it cheaper to run a cable under the street from building to building, or is it cheaper to run the cable miles between subdivisions? It's so simple. I don't get why people don't seem to understand the difference. They're not wiring rural areas here. The population density of all of Hong Kong is 6579 people per square kilometer while the US is 32 people per square kiometer. Why don't people get it? Because the truth is that there are areas such as NJ, NY etc that are similar in population density that DO NOT have more than 3mbps, let alone dialup!
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oliphantI Have 8 BoobiesPremium
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Corona, CA | reply to CableConvert
Sure looked like you were. You claimed the free market was crooked. Now you've graduated Manga-Non-Sequitur and are off on another tangent. Looks to me like you are simply full of crap and bitch just for the sake of bitching. LMAO, I suppose you think there is no gov't corruption in Red China. Sure this is in Hong Kong (which is about as far from Red China as you get)...when will the rest of China get this miracle service? 800,000 our of billions doesn't seem like much of a revolutionary deployment. I'm sure the child slaves on the mainland making Nikes look forward to the day they can see gov't approved websites faster than us. Bitchen for them.
What would would you do with a 1Gb connection anyway? No hosts have upstream speeds fast enough to make it matter. I have 6Mb service and have trouble finding servers ANYWHERE in the world that I can max my pipe with a single connection on, save for a local Speakeasy speed test server.
Meanwhile if having that 1GB tool tip popping up in your systray is that important to ya, thanks to the free market there is nothing stopping you from gathering investors and deploying 1Gb broadband here in the good ole USA. All you have to do is put 1/2 the effort into it as you do to complaining how everyone else should do it for you.
And be careful? About what? Pointing out that your post proves crack doesn't smoke itself?
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