RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | Both, and neither. "The U.S. ranking is something ITU and OECD researchers attribute to a lack of a cohesive government infrastructure policy - but free-market fans and incumbent supporters attribute to geography. The data indicates there are 11.4 broadband subscribers per every 100 U.S. inhabitants."
It's both. Plus, maybe, just maybe, most of us have better things to do than sit in front of a computer all fooking day playing with ourselves, unlike some "front running" counties' citizenry. |
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join:2003-01-14
Earth, TX
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| To add to you comment.... What percentage of the US is covered by DirecWay internet service? Just about 100% of the country, I would venture to guess without doing some digging. Just because people are capable of getting broadband internet access, doesn't necessarily mean that they want or need to.
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 roamer1sticking it out at you
join:2001-03-24
Atlanta, GA | said by manfmmd:Just because people are capable of getting broadband internet access, doesn't necessarily mean that they want or need to. I think that's a lot of it. Availability is generally not much of an issue nowadays (aside from rural areas, and even there satellite is available) -- it seems to be more of an issue of the usual American technophobia and the fact that (unlike in much of the rest of the world, where all phone calls are billed by the minute) dialup is quite cheap.
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TheGhostPremium
join:2003-01-03
Lake Forest, IL | Problem is the cost of access in those areas. If you would need to pay $90/month for internet, you may think twice. Not all have the $30/month RBOC deals. |
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 DaMaGeINCThe Lan ManPremium
join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
kudos:2 | reply to manfmmd
said by manfmmd:To add to you comment.... What percentage of the US is covered by DirecWay internet service? Just about 100% of the country, I would venture to guess without doing some digging. Just because people are capable of getting broadband internet access, doesn't necessarily mean that they want or need to. Well in our country, Broadband serves 1 purpose, mainly just internet browsing, email, trivial things compared to other country's. In China, Japan, HK, they already have Video Phones, Interactive TV,(not the BS crap we have, But real Interactive TV) And so many things we only dream about. Its part of everyday life overseas. So if we had fiber to all our residents, then we would be able to adopt this lifestyle, and more people would be compelled to buy into it. But until their is more than just email and gaming, we will continue to lag behind the rest of the world.
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RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
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1 edit | "then we would be able to adopt this lifestyle"
I guess the real question is why we would adopt this lifestyle. Asian societal structure is profoundly different than ours, and that's just one aspect. I don't buy into the "if you build it they will come" theory. If it was true we'd all have fiber up our bums already--god knows there is enough fiber already strung and buried out there. The profit motive is irresistible and some outfit would be raking in the dough if there was actually a demand for this fluff.
More likely, not all that many people want "interactive TV" or video phones. I certainly don't, and I certainly have the resources to purchase those services if I wanted to. |
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DaMaGeINCThe Lan ManPremium
join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
kudos:2 | I dont care for interactive TV anyway. But its not us that I am talking about. Its everyday Joe and Jane. That sit their all day watching ET tonight. |
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RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | Well, you do have a point there...  |
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roamer1sticking it out at you
join:2001-03-24
Atlanta, GA
1 edit | reply to DaMaGeINC
said by DaMaGeINC:In China, Japan, HK, they already have Video Phones, Interactive TV,(not the BS crap we have, But real Interactive TV) And so many things we only dream about. Its part of everyday life overseas. Asian culture is VERY different (read: much more into gadgets and electronics) than US culture, or European culture for that matter. Comparing the US to countries that are more similar to the US (Canada, the UK, Germany, Australia, etc.) is more fair.
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said by TheGhost:Problem is the cost of access in those areas. If you would need to pay $90/month for internet, you may think twice. Not all have the $30/month RBOC deals. Let's also throw in the fact that city dwellers make 2 x on average then rural workers. So that $90 becomes 180 to a country boy and his family. Let's see pay the mortgage or broadband hmm tough choice.
Universal broadband access for cheap would bring the country to a much higher level of understanding.
Ohh and for the people who say we got better things to do with our time. Consider that tv is the #1 time waster if that time is spent reading news and informative posts at even 1/2 the time they spend on tv they would both burn more calories(obesity epidemic?) and become a more informed citizen, but we can't have the latter at this point, educated thinking citizens are bad for governments.
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are you even aware of how horrible direcway is? |
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well they could still spread some of the religious nut information on the net too 8)) that seems to work wonders for controlling people :-O |
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well they could still spread some of the religious nut information on the net too 8)) that seems to work wonders for controlling people :-O
I would agree 100 % on that.
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
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said by RadioDoc:Plus, maybe, just maybe, most of us have better things to do than sit in front of a computer all fooking day playing with ourselves, unlike some "front running" counties' citizenry. You're probably right. Those other countries have things like vacations, time off, holidays, mandatory overtime pay for odd hours, etc
They have more R&R and time off. We're busy having to work too damn much.... Welcome to the Corporate Nation.
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 Combat ChuckToo Many CannibalsPremium
join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA | I'll laugh at you now presumptively for when those other countries realize how retarded some of their little work policies are and change them to be like ours. Oh lookie there, what's going on in France?
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 parasonicI Am Not A Bot
join:2002-03-29
Atlanta, GA | reply to RadioDoc
Few people are FTTP-capable...but exactly, different cultures/societies, different trends. |
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FRANCE IS DOOMED! OH NOES....... on the other hand, maybe not |
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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No problem--- Once their Governments sell them out to big money interests, they can join us in the work harder and harder for lower and lower standards of living category....
Course they'd be way behind us in that "race" anyway.
It's great to be #1 at something I guess....
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KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK Reviews:
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said by Combat Chuck:Oh lookie there, what's going on in France? Are you referring to this?
»story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s···_copying
Notice it's exactly against the trend here. Many European nations have laws protecting fair use of the people over the Corporate wishes..... opposite of here. Those silly countries need to be like us. Sell out. Nah. Maybe they should instead provide at least some examples for OUR leadership... it would be nice.
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Ahrenl
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North Andover, MA | reply to BosstonesOwn
said by BosstonesOwn:said by TheGhost:Problem is the cost of access in those areas. If you would need to pay $90/month for internet, you may think twice. Not all have the $30/month RBOC deals. Let's also throw in the fact that city dwellers make 2 x on average then rural workers. So that $90 becomes 180 to a country boy and his family. Let's see pay the mortgage or broadband hmm tough choice. Now lets look at the difference in mortgage's / cost of living. 1BR condo's go for 500K in and around Boston. That 3000k+ a month for a mortgage payment. You can buy a mansion in wyoming with 500 acres of land for 50k. The same poor people who can't afford broadband in the city are the same type of people who can't afford it in the country.. A worldwide cost benefit analysis would show our service options as VERY poor however. The 15 countries that have better services than us almost certainly have lower cost structure.
I don't expect companies to wire up township 87 in northern maine. Anywhere were its not profitable to wire, are the places where the government SHOULD step in. I ALSO don't think that the government should be helping at all for areas where it is profitable to wire up. If a profit can be turned, someone will jump on it. Stop giving out subsidies and credits to mega-corps who can easily fund this stuff themselves in the corporate debt market. |
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