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Re: Put Up or Shut Up said by Combat Chuck:Whether you want to admit it or not, your ideas are socialist. A look at your post history is all that's needed. You constantly say the government should help this or that person or suggest intervention(punishment) when someone turns an excellent profit. Then anytime anyone uses strong words to refer to your ideas you go the "smart people don't use such words" route and ignore any other content. You did it to me the other day because I referred to your "stupid idea" (stupid because you had to ignore certain facts in order for it to make sense) Feel free to use my post history to bolster your points; I've nothing to hide (I wouldn't post here if I did!).
I wish you'd back up SOMETHING you say with a fact or linked citation rather than with empty rhetoric. Feel free to do so on these points for practice. I'll be glad to reply to your accusations (what you put in quotes):
** You quote me with "smart people don't use such words" Do I write that somewhere? Please provide a link to a post where I do.
** You write (as a quote) that, "[I] constantly say the government should help this or that person or suggest intervention(punishment) when someone turns an excellent profit." Please provide examples of where I do just what you state.
The post / exchange you allude to is here: Where YOU call my ideas stupid!
You see, I'll debate freely -- anytime, anywhere -- and if I'm incorrect with facts or wrong-headed in viewpoint I'll be the first to admit it. You haven't written anything to refute what I've said. Your idea of proving a point is to simply say someone else is wrong. I'm sorry, but it takes a bit more work than that 
Now, do I think that Muni broadband should simply be implemented because someone thinks it's the best course? No, I do not. However, I also think that rational discussion on the subject is warranted because the BB industry in this country is getting very rich while people pay higher prices and the country as a whole falls behind other countries in per capita BB usage. There are various reasons for the fall in rank, I admit, but I don't think my other charges are that far off the mark. Look at the current situation with oil/gas. Crude futures went skyward and pump prices went up. We were told prices were due to supply & demand problems. Yet ALL the major oil companies just posted HUGE profits for the 1st quarter. You may think this is fine, but there are many that do not. Moreover, calling people socialists or stupid doesn't further intelligent debate.
** Note: on the linked thread above, I provided a reply with 33 citations on wages and worker rights. I notice you never replied to that. I also notice that when facts or links to proof of a position are included in a reply to your views, you either don't address that portion of the post or you attack the messenger. If you do that often enough, people will put you on their ignore list and you'll be arguing with yourself. I'd think on that for a bit. It's just a discussion, no one HAS to win or lose, and various points of view are healthy. If you don't agree with what you think are "socialist [ideas]," then point out exactly why that particular idea is socialist and why it's not good in your opinion. Ad hominem or shallow 'what you did or said' arguing is a waste of time. -- "The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppose." -- Frederick Douglass |