What is careerbuilder.com doing? in Security

What is careerbuilder.com doing? in Security http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r13367037 en Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:46:38 EDT Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:46:38 EDT Re: What is careerbuilder.com doing? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13375161 jakoe420 :

said by Keith987:

The reply that you received was, in fact, from careerbuilder. They requested that you submit the information that you have for that company to csi@careerbuilder.com. Double check the email headers from that email and you will see that it did not come from a yahoo address.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying...The reply came from careerbuilder, but why would the reply be "This is not spam"? Can you elaborate on what you're getting at?

Edit: I just got this email, this about solves it I think:

Dear Patrick,

Thank you for contacting Careerbuilder.com. I apologize for any inconvenience, and very much appreciate you sending us this information.

We are dedicated to removing fraudulent companies from our website, and we rely on the help of our customers to do so. At this time, we have shutdown this employer's account and removed their ability to use any of the products and services on our site. We also share information with the FBI, Secret Service, and local law enforcement agencies across the country to send these users through the right channels to be prosecuted.

The original email that you submitted through the website was responded with a note saying "This is not spam". I apologize for the confusion, but we were referring to the response email sent by us and not the message you received from the fraudulent employer.

CareerBuilder Site Integrity Team]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13375161 Tue, 10 May 2005 14:37:30 EDT Re: What is careerbuilder.com doing? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13375059 Fobulous : SPamowned]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13375059 Tue, 10 May 2005 14:24:37 EDT Re: What is careerbuilder.com doing? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13375004 anon : The reply that you received was, in fact, from careerbuilder. They requested that you submit the information that you have for that company to csi@careerbuilder.com. Double check the email headers from that email and you will see that it did not come from a yahoo address.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13375004 Tue, 10 May 2005 14:17:31 EDT Re: What is careerbuilder.com doing? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13370591 gwion : There's also been some publicity regarding spammers who harvest e-mails from resumes, targeting people looking for work with offers involving pyramid scams, work at home offers and so forth. They're spammers. Except that no spammer ever calls himself a spammer. He refers to it as "targeted marketing", or some similar words all full of sound fury and signifying nothing. Careerbuilder's in the business of connecting people looking for jobs with those having jobs needing filled. They're a resume brokerage, a cyber-headhunter, not an employer recruiting for themselves.

Apply the same reasoning you would to an offer you would receive through a headhunter. If you're looking for IT director at a midsize company, you don't even consider some guy who replies to your resume with, "I don't have any openings in the IT department, but I do need people to stuff envelopes at home and earn big money..." ;) If you want to contact careerbuilder directly about it, you should do so through their listed e-mail and/or phone and address. NOT by using the reply to or from field in the suspect e-mails...
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Careerbuilder never contacted me again, so I don't know what the deal is..Maybe they will contact me tomorrow....Something is strange about the whole thing though]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13370245 Mon, 09 May 2005 21:53:25 EDT Re: What is careerbuilder.com doing? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13369555 pcdebb : hmmm, i'm confused. I've used careerbuilder, get emails from them all the time, but nothing like the email in the original post. sounds like someone is scamming using the careerbuilder name? I apologize if that was discussed here already, been a long day....

actually, didnt i see the text of an email like this that was associated with a scam?
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said by jakoe420

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IS careerbuilder LYING to me when they tell me it's not SPAM? That's all I want to know now, if they are I'll never go there again. Or is somebody else pretending to be careerbuilder and tell me that?

I think you just got a quick, canned response. I believe what they probably 'meant' to say, (beyond to contact CSI@careerbuilder.com) is that it's not spam from them.

Maybe... still a confusing response. Seems to me they would have said, "This isn't from us", rather than that.
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This may help you answer your own question.
Would I consider it spam? Yes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13367992 Mon, 09 May 2005 17:04:56 EDT Re: What is careerbuilder.com doing? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13367917 Greg_Z : What Careerbuilder is telling you to do is contact CSI@careerbuilder.com, which sounds like a canned response.
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said by Dantz:

This is a variation on a common scam. In essence, they send you a bad check and you send them back a good one.

It seems to be a variation on a 401 scam.
They would need your bank info to 'deposit' these funds to.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13367866 Mon, 09 May 2005 16:49:53 EDT Re: What is careerbuilder.com doing? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13367840 anon : This is a variation on a common scam. In essence, they send you a bad check and you send them back a good one. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13367840 Mon, 09 May 2005 16:46:14 EDT Re: What is careerbuilder.com doing? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13367835 Marilla :

said by jakoe420

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So, if a spammer at kc_resum@yahoo.com collected my email address from careerbuilder.com, then spammed me with that BS, how did I get email from careerbuilder/fuze saying that it is not spam? The headers for the response email look OK to me. AM I missing something here?

I guess that's what's got me confused here, too
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And last but not least, there is always a reaction for every action.
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We're talking about spammers USING those web sites to collect e-mail addresses, or otherwise sending spam through the service somehow, right? Not the services themselves actually spamming?
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Since the newspapers are starting to be better at watching the content that goes into the job listings in the daily's, SPAMmers have to go elsewhere, and since these people pay the bills for companies like Monster and Careerbuilder, it will not stop.
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I guess I thought careerbuilder was OK, actually my last job, I found through their site. Until now, they weren't spammers in my eyes.....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13367436 Mon, 09 May 2005 15:53:49 EDT Re: What is careerbuilder.com doing? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13367434 Doctor Four : That fits Sharp's Corollary (from Rule #1 of the Rules
Of Spam) to a tee:

"Spammers attempt to redefine 'spamming' as that which
they do not do."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13367434 Mon, 09 May 2005 15:53:41 EDT Re: What is careerbuilder.com doing? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13367408 Greg_Z : I would consider that as SPAM.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13367408 Mon, 09 May 2005 15:49:30 EDT Re: What is careerbuilder.com doing? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13367355 jakoe420 : Right, it's clearly spam. But what about this:

Received: from web02.fuzeqna.com ([66.150.167.196])
by sccrmxc15.comcast.net (sccrmxc15) with ESMTP
id ; Mon, 9 May 2005 18:18:59 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [66.150.167.196]
Received: from mail pickup service by web02.fuzeqna.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
Mon, 9 May 2005 11:13:22 -0700
From:
To:
Subject: Response to inquiry #150809 from CareerBuilder.com
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 11:13:22 -0700
Message-ID:
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
Thread-Index: AcVUwsjvFj3BwSihTR6QBEGGZ2kEYA==
Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 May 2005 18:13:22.0397 (UTC) FILETIME=[C915E0D0:01C554C2]

This is not Spam. To respond with further information, please click the link at the bottom of the email.

from »www.fuzeqna.com/fuzeds/consumer/···bid=130:

Below we have provided a few examples of how some customers have opted to integrate the Fuze Suite into their Web sites. Each one is somewhat different, which will begin to give you an appreciation for the flexibility you have when integrating our solution. Next to each link we have identified some of the areas Fuze is being used. For example, all of the functionality under HAPO Community Credit Union's "Info Center" menu item is provided by Fuze along with the first set of calculators listed. Don't be surprised when the line between Fuze and the rest of the Web site begins to blur!

CareerBuilder.com www.careerbuilder.com (Help for Job Seekers)

Search results for: 66.45.112.141

Inflow NFLO-AR-2 (NET-66-45-0-0-1)
66.45.0.0 - 66.45.127.255
CareerBuilder, Inc. INFLOW--6526-9138 (NET-66-45-112-128-1)
66.45.112.128 - 66.45.112.191

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2005-05-08 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

Search results for: 66.150.167.196]

Internap Network Services PNAP-06-2001 (NET-66-150-0-0-1)
66.150.0.0 - 66.151.255.255
Fuze Technologies PNAP-SEF-FUZE-DC-01 (NET-66-150-167-192-1)
66.150.167.192 - 66.150.167.223

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2005-05-08 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13367355 Mon, 09 May 2005 15:41:27 EDT Re: What is careerbuilder.com doing? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13367301 Greg_Z : This SPAM was sent through CareerBuilder.com's mail servers, is why it is saying 'misconfigured sender'.

I tend to ignore this crap as I stated.
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I typed www.careerbuilder.com into firefox when I wanted to ask them about it. I still haven't heard back from their Site Integrity Team...You want to see the headers? (I x'd out my email address)

Received: from site.careerbuilder.com (rebelsm3.careerbuilder.com[66.45.112.141](misconfigured sender))
by rwcrmxc12.comcast.net (rwcrmxc12) with ESMTP
id ; Mon, 9 May 2005 17:14:05 +0000
X-Originating-IP: [66.45.112.141]
Received: from mail pickup service by Site.CareerBuilder.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC;
Mon, 9 May 2005 13:14:04 -0400
From: "Corneida Garcia"
To: "xxxxxxxxx"
Reply-To: kc_resum@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 13:14:04 -0400
Subject: CareerBuilder.com: Additional salary to your principal job.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="_=aspNetEmail=_e41e932c4fe74d6eae4b644e94eec69e"
X-Mailer: aspNetEmail ver 3.2.0.18
X-CBEID: E8G7N16HBNMBH4R9JG8
X-CBOrig: REBELSM3
Return-Path: kc_resum@yahoo.com
Message-ID:
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 May 2005 17:14:04.0766 (UTC) FILETIME=[809277E0:01C554BA]

Did Careerbuilder not write that reply? What does misconfigured sender mean? Actually, they HAD to write it because I was at their site when I submitted the question. Right?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13367191 Mon, 09 May 2005 15:17:02 EDT Re: What is careerbuilder.com doing? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13367123 Greg_Z : Sounds like a Pyramid scheme. I would toss it. What happens is webbots will go out and scour sites like Monster, and Careerbuilder.com and reap the info available to send out mailings.

I tend to ignore this junk that I get due to it sets off my "Spam" alert way too much. Just toss into your Trashcan and forget about it.
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Don't even think of replying to them EVER again. No bona fide company Ever just sends out random deals like that.
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From: "Corneida Garcia"
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To:
Subject: CareerBuilder.com: Additional salary to your
principal job.
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:14:05 +0000

CareerBuilder.com
Message from Job Poster
Additional salary to your principal job.
The company hires additional employees for home work.
We offer our clients services and accept any types of
payment convenient for them. Therefore we need
employees in different countries to accept payments
from our clients, to assist them to pay for our
services in the countries where they live and to
allow them to choose the way of payment they like.
Your salary will equal 10% of accepted payments. You
will be able to earn approximately from $300 to $2000
per week. Your income will depend only on speed and
quality of your operation.
If you are interested in this job, please e-mail your
resume to the following address: kc_resum@yahoo.com
and wait for the details of job description.

Thank you for your interest to our offer.
If you have questions or comments for
CareerBuilder.com, please use our feedback form.

So, I went to their site and emailed them, pasting the email as I have done here. Here's the response I got:

On 5/9/2005 you posed a question to CareerBuilder.com which was noted as inquiry 150809. The question you posed and our response are listed below.

Your Question, Comment or Feedback:
Why is careerbuilder.com sending these out? I apologize if this didn't come from you, but if this isn't a scam, I don't know what is!

Response:

This is not Spam. To respond with further information, please click the link at the bottom of the email.

Dear Patrick,
Thank you for contacting Careerbuilder.com. I apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced. Our Site Integrity Team specializes in handling issues of this nature, and they welcome the opportunity to assist you in resolving any problems you may be experiencing at this time. Please contact them directly via email at the following email address: CSI@careerbuilder.com. Be sure to provide sufficient information about any problems you are having, and please indicate how you wish to be contacted if you need someone to follow-up with you. Thank you for your time.

What do you all think about this? Clearly, it is spam, the email address is even @yahoo.com. I'm waiting for a reply back from them, so I thought I'd ask in here. Obviously, it is not really a huge problem but why would careerbuilder send email asking me to collect payments from other countries, use a yahoo email address, and when asked about it reply, "It's not spam"?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13367037 Mon, 09 May 2005 14:53:46 EDT