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 DavidNow accepting new patientsPremium,VIP
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| I don't think the bells had anything to do with this fire besides the one already there..
For instance, a recent packet8 review
»Review of Packet8 by ms9723
As well as
»Baby Death Blamed on Vonage 911
The public added fuel to the fire, the bells did not have to do a damn thing. Except sit back and watch. If people depended on e911 availability I would think (as a consumer) that would be the first thing I would expect to be working with landline service. Mainly last time I checked is you don't move landlines very often so basically emergency services know where they are going, and can plan the route accordingly.
So (and true I am a bell employee) I have a hard time believing they had anything more to do with the E911 problem that has not been created by ourselves (the consumer public), or by the VoIP providers themselves. fortunatley for me I have seen a 911 call center, and I have seen the equipment they use, and in 95% of most cases, the bells maintain the equipment at the 911 centers, or local police departments, and (or as least where my mother works) the equipment is constantly updated, maintained and is always in proper running order. if there is a problem they call the number on the side of the box (computer terminal) and they are usually there within 4 hours to replace the computer completely and make sure the system is back online. Most people probably did not even know that.
Bottom line is, if they are going to provide phone service they should be making it clearer, or be offering it right from the get go and charge the customer for it. Let the customer decide what is more important. Then the decision could only be on their shoes!
Least that is how I feel anyway.
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Belvedere Tiburon, CA | said by David:.... The public added fuel to the fire, the bells did not have to do a damn thing. Except sit back and watch. If people depended on e911 availability I would think (as a consumer) that would be the first thing I would expect to be working with landline service. Well, sitting back and watching the fire is near criminal--especially when you've been obstructing the efforts of others to install sprinklers (i.e., connect to the existing E-9-1-1 systems.) I'm sure the Bells are having a good laugh over the deaths involved, thinking that their own obstructionism had nothing to do with it.
As for what you "would think" about something new, you remind me of the sleazy lawyers who argue to juries that boats are unsafe because they don't have brakes like cars--since they have a steering wheel and a dashboard, they must be just like a car, right? It's not like we would expect people to understand that new things are sometimes different?
People who think we must "idiot proof" every new technology don't realize that if we only allow new technology that's "idiot proof", we will only get the new technology that idiots could conceive, develop, and implement.
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DavidNow accepting new patientsPremium,VIP
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| Well do remember I am a tech that posts here, but from a consumer viewpoint (I did watch a vonage commercial on my tv the other day the "doing something stupid commercials") the commercials on tv made no mention to me (and probably 75% to 90% of the normal untechnical public ) about e911 being impacted if I switch to vonage. Now keep in mind the same public will be thinking "Ok I have a broadband line, why don't I get vonage?" Then disaster strikes like it did for the 2 incidents I point above and they look for someone to blame. Who's fault was it really? The VoIP's fault? the bells fault? and the bells fault for what? not making something work? for the VoIP providers not stating that e911 might not work? I can't fathom to imagine it being the bells fault for something the VoIP providers did not consider in the initial long run, for that I blame them, and solely them for their lack of responsibility. That just proved they put the bottom line above public saftey and now it is catching them in the shorts.
As for thinking making things idiot proof.. I agree, but to the same extent if you try, we just invent a better idiot.
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Belvedere Tiburon, CA | ...and I don't doubt that some customers have been misled about the impact on their 9-1-1. However, I think the answer is in requiring proper disclosure, not in more regulation that limits customer options and raises prices.
And while we may differ on the "obstructionism" (or not) that the VOIP players have encountered, you have to admit that today's FCC effort to make the VOIP network work like (i.e., look like and cost like) the LEC network will hurt VOIP more than a reasonable disclosure only requirement would have.
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