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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1197604"><b>gord27</b></A> : this router still sucks for me.<br><br>i'm back at my uni house and with 5 ppl on the connection plus my dedicated bt server it spikes like mad.  i've finally got it stable for teh most part in that it doesn't disconnect but i still get spikes every minute or so even with bt not running.  i've set everything going to myself a priority of 5 and still i get spikes.<br><br>basically this router is better than my di604 but is far from perfect and it's annoying as hell trying to figure out.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Wow I clicked this thread to read it and realized it was one i started like 6 months ago hehe.<br><br>Just wanted to say that I think the 4300 is an awesome router and would recommend it to anyone.<br><br>Someone said they could not followed my 2nd post where I had fixed the problem....  I fixed my disconnect problem by turning ON dynamic fragmentation.  Initially I had turned the setting to off to get my voip modem to work but it turns out the router doesn't work well with it off heh, so make sure you leave it on.<br><br>One other thing... for people who want good game pings....  do not rely on 'automatic classification' it will not give you the results you want. As someone pointed out it 'helps' but 1000ms ping down to 500ms is still useless.  Leave automatic classification on, however for any traffic you can, create custom rules it is MUCH MUCH more effective. <br><br>I put bittorrent traffic on port 50005 and then give it a '255' priority (lowest).  Then I play ut2k4 so I have a rule for traffic on port 7777-7877 and source ip of my gaming computer to priority '5' (very high).<br><br>bassically this is how i have it set:<br>5 ut2k4<br>10 voip phone<br>50 teamspeak (team voice program)<br>70 ssh connections<br>80 web/ssl<br>---<br>128 all other connections go here that don't match a rule<br>---<br>150 ftp<br>255 bittorrent<br><br>My cable gives 384kbps up, and i type that in I do not use measured uplink speed.<br><br>In bittorrent I limit it to 35KB/sec.<br><br>The result is with no other traffic I'll ping ~70-80ms with bittorrent going it'll be 80-90ms...  I can limit bt more (down to 25KB/sec) and my ping is effected even less but I usually don't bother...  if I have a match or an important game to play I will just close BT and be safe.<br><br>One other thing that is useful if you care about pings or not...  do not put BT traffic's limit too high..  it will quickly begin to affect other programs (web pages take too long to load) and the 4300 will not be able to help you.<br><br>Heres how I found to pick a resonable limit..  in azureus if you open the statistics panel it gives you a nice graph of your upload...  choose some upload limit thats not that high and it iwll make a nice flat line going across, you can then raise the limit and see if it keeps the nice flat line...  eventually when you get near your connections limit it will start making spikes all over the place... at this point i turn the limit down a few KB/sec to leave a little room to be safe.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1273103"><b>Nicrypt</b></A> : I am replying to any topics regarding the DGL-4300 and/or the DSL-300T as these are the two items I purchased which caused a few issues which I have now overcome after a week of configuration changes. As with all routers/modems issues arise.... thats life. So enough waffle...... the concluding facts:<br><br>DGL-4300 with v1.4 firmware<br>DSL-300T with latest firmware 05/2005. Latest to date anyway as of 06/09/2005.<br><br>www.dlink.co.uk<br><br>(1) A couple of points if you are thinking of using this router and modem together: The DGL-4300 requires the 1.4 firmware to fix compat issues. If you are planning to use the modem as the PPPoA for connecting to your ISP, and the router connecting to the modem via DHCP Client be aware that the modem has a refresh rate of 60 seconds on the DHCP IP timeout which would be better increased to perhaps 3600 seconds.<br><br>(2) Now for the problematic DSL-300T: I orginally thought it was the router causing most of the issues I was having, I was proved wrong. If you are planning to use this modem for the most basic of tasks behind a router or PC you are unlikely to experience any diffculties. But for those who use the internet for anything and everything the modem is very prone to crashing or hanging over a few mins or several hours when overloaded with connections (Keep reading for Solution). Now I mention bittorrent as this is very heavy on the connections, I am using ABC 3.0.0, but most other clients are the same to be quite frank. The work around solution is not to use the PPPoA feature on the modem, and use the modem as a direct BRIDGE. This is configured in the setup modem drop down list. Once the modem is configured as a bridge and DHCP server turned off, the router can be configured to use PPPoE/PPPoA in my case PPPoE as my UK ISP supports it. Problem solved!<br><br>(3) Now for the DGL-4300: I have read so many forums about problems and issues regarding this router, but my first comment would be dont assume the router is always at fault. In most cases it wont be!!! My only comments on this would be the 3 areas for port configuration are fine as they provide, single port fowarding, port range forwarding and triggered port forwarding. GAMEFUEL I now have configured as default and automatic after trying several methods I am happy with the default settings. But if you really really want something below or higher than everything else use 255 for low priority items and 128 for high priority items whilst Auto is still enabled as disabling this will only cause more headaches.<br><br>Hope some of this advice has been helpful for someone, any questions just ask!!!<br><br>Regards Nick]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1197604"><b>gord27</b></A> : well i'm on 4mbit at my other house.  1mbit here with the same provider cause that's the best i can do here though.  i got them to drop me from 1.5mbit to 1mbit so that interleave could be turned off.  i'm too far from the CO in this house.  also, when my dad uploads to our website (uncapped obviously) my ping spikes a lot.  i just find in general that when i use above ~75% of either upload or download or both that i ping higher.  the reason i bought the router is so that wouldn't happen.  the router does improve it but changing from 1000+ to 500ish is still useless.<br><br>thanks for replying. :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1220581"><b>joe_dude</b></A> : Just trying to rule things out. ;)<br><br>Did you test the cables for NeXT and attenuation?  I stopped making LAN cables by hand when I discovered that the store bought ones (CAT5E and up) were generally better.<br><br>Maybe if you are using the full 1 Mbit, then the bad ping time could be because the acknowledgements are delayed by the downloading.  So Gamefuel may be getting the packets out sooner, but the return trip is getting lagged.<br><br>Time for a faster DSL provider? :D]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1197604"><b>gord27</b></A> : i made all the cables.  cat 5 and cat 5e.  happens in two different houses.  i don't understand how 100mbit cables can cause high ping on a 1mbit connection. but only when using the full 1mbit and not when just gaming by itself.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1220581"><b>joe_dude</b></A> : Yeah, that does seem awfully high.  It's almost like dynamic fragmentation isn't working, or automatic classification is not setting priorities properly.<br><br>It's a long shot, but what about the network cables?  High pings on downloads could be a sign of a noisy line.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1197604"><b>gord27</b></A> : 30 without anything and 500ish with max html dl and nothing else.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1220581"><b>joe_dude</b></A> : So what are your normal ping times and ping times during maximum traffic?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1197604"><b>gord27</b></A> : i can't dl a file at full speed off html or upload a file at max upload on msn either without getting high ping.  i do limit my bt to ~75% and my ping is fine but only if i limit my dl to ~60% as well.  i can't dl full and ul at 75% or my ping sucks.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1220581"><b>joe_dude</b></A> : gord27, it sounds like you're not capping your upload bandwidth (to ~75%) when using bittorrent.  The bittorrent faqs explain why upload speed shouldn't be maxed out.<br><br>I don't think the DGL-4300 can help in this case.  What you're looking for is probably an enterprise class router.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1197604"><b>gord27</b></A> : i also get high ping in games unless i set my upload and download to a percentage of the max.  i have never been able to just set unlimited and have everything be perfect as i originally hoped when i purchased this router.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1197604"><b>gord27</b></A> : haven't fixed it.  i just close bt.  home for the summer now and it's just me and the parents on the connection here so it's not as big of a deal.  once i'm back at uni i'll be having those problems again though i'm sure.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : I have 24mbit download and 10mbit upload useing cabel, im in sweden.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/968832"><b>IceWindius</b></A> : Decent quality ISP's shouldnt' be using PPTP, its simply to old and unreliable for todays standards and demands.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/786866"><b>kareshi7</b></A> : gord27, can you explain what you did to fix your problem? i am having the exact same problem too...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1204092"><b>ironeagle</b></A> : Ok, After a lot of searching with D-link (no help there) and other tech support foroms, I finaly found the answer with my phone company.<br><br>It seems that D-link don't have good support for PPTP protocols, and they received a lot of complaints about PPTP modems not working with D-Link routers, such as the Alcatel ADSL modem.<br><br>The phone company said that they received many complaints and it has to do with poor support for the PPTP protocol, and If I was to switch to a PPPOE based modem, the problems should be solved.<br><br>Sure enough, when switching to a PPPOE protocol based modem the problems were solved and I'm finnaly working with the gigalan and high speed internet I wanted.<br><br>D-link have no idea of this problem, and from what I understand, they aren't going to work on the support for the PPTP protocol, since it's a reletive old protocol.<br><br>Hope this helps for all those that are searching for solutions.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1204092"><b>ironeagle</b></A> : Hi, I had similar problems with the 4300.<br>Are you using PPTP to connect?<br>I was connected with PPTP to an Alcatel ADSL modem, and after a few seconds of file transfers, I got disconected with the comment:<br>"The remote PPTP access concentrator is slow to respond.  There may be connectivity problems."<br>I am still in the process of checking it out, but it looks that if I change to a PPPoE modem from ECI, the problems are gone.<br>Good luck]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/968832"><b>IceWindius</b></A> : Firmware 1.3 and not a single crash on my 4300. My POS DSL modem on the other hand......]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1197604"><b>gord27</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by anon7007:</SMALL><BR><BR>gord27, you must not have read his 2nd post in this thread.  He fixed his problem.<br><br>I also own this router and its definitely the best router I have owned.  I've also never experienced these problems.<br> </DIV>so he turned two settings off and then on again and it fixed all his issues?  or is he not using special applications.  it was hard to understand what he was saying.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/328901"><b>Snickerdo</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Basher13 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1000279"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><br><br>Bottom line: DSL is much more private and secure<br>(due to frequent changes in IP address) however,<br>cable broadband smashes DSL for overall performance,<br>in terms of brute speed, ( up and down ) coupled with<br>running servers, gaming, xbox, etc.</DIV>Again, that comes down to implementation.  I could have DSL with a static IP address, or cable that has IP addresses that renew every 7 days.  It's all up to the ISP.<br><SMALL>--<br>Bigot - Someone that has won an argument with a Liberal.<BR><B><A HREF="/forum/canchat/">Yes, I CanChat. Can You?</A>     <A HREF="http://www.fiberal.ca">www.fiberal.ca</A></B></SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1000279"><b>Basher13</b></A> : Bottom line: DSL is much more private and secure<br>(due to frequent changes in IP address) however,<br>cable broadband smashes DSL for overall performance,<br>in terms of brute speed, ( up and down ) coupled with<br>running servers, gaming, xbox, etc.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/328901"><b>Snickerdo</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  DragonFire <A HREF="/useremail/u/172375"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><br><br>UMMM....You have no idea either.   Some DSL providers do in fact offer 786-1000Kbps for the upload side.   Its also a fact that DSL is lower ping times all around because DSL is not shared as cable is.</DIV>DSL is shared once you get to the CO.  Oh wow, you have a dedicated pipe from your home to the DSLAM.  Big deal, a lot of good that'll do when the pipe from the CO to the ISP POP is congested to hell.  Bye bye ping times, too.<br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  DragonFire <A HREF="/useremail/u/172375"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><br><br>Of course it all depends on where you live but I know a few people that have seen 56k speeds in the evening because everyone in the nighborhood is online downloading torrents and what not.</DIV>I've had the same thing happen with DSL when the pipe from my CO that served half of the entire city was congested.  I dealt with 1200ms pings for about three months before I got fed up and went back to dialup before I moved.  Technology has nothing to do with it, implementation does.<br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  DragonFire <A HREF="/useremail/u/172375"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><br><br>My DSL line has gone down twice in the last year and was back up both times with in 30 mins, can you say that about cable?   Oh yeah, I have been enjoying 6016/608 speeds for a year and half now, how many cable providers were offering 5Mbps or more a year and half ago?</DIV>My cable never goes down, and I had 5500/640 well over a year and a half ago.  Again, you're talking about ISP specifics, and not about the technology itself.<br><div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  DragonFire <A HREF="/useremail/u/172375"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><br><br>To show that cable really sucks, cable networks could offer 100Mbps or more to its users today but they rather milk there users to death first at the slowest speeds possible.</DIV>The telco can too.  Again, this goes to implementation.  Your point?<br><br>My point, however, is that DSL and cable are both the same thing - consumer level broadband services that, all things being equal, perform pretty much the same.  Blindly telling someone to switch from cable to DSL is a stupid thing to do.  End of Story.<br><SMALL>--<br>Bigot - Someone that has won an argument with a Liberal.<BR><B><A HREF="/forum/canchat/">Yes, I CanChat. Can You?</A>     <A HREF="http://www.fiberal.ca">www.fiberal.ca</A></B></SMALL>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : gord27, you must not have read his 2nd post in this thread.  He fixed his problem.<br><br>I also own this router and its definitely the best router I have owned.  I've also never experienced these problems.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/958344"><b>Tsume</b></A> : I wish the mods would ban the off-topic cable/dsl fanbois here.<br><br>DSL and Cable both suck equally.  Live with it.<br><br>--<br><br>@OP:  Maybe try to get it RMA'd with D-Link?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/172375"><b>DragonFire</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Snickerdo <A HREF="/useremail/u/328901"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><BR><BR><div class="bquote">Damn dude lay off the crack.  'Cable' has nothing to do with this, rather, it is the ISP itself.  My cable ISP offers cable connections with 640kbit/s and 1Mbit/s uplink speeds.  The DSL providers offer 640, but nowhere near 1Mbit/s.  Latency on a utilized connection is going to be the same, regardless of the transport type.  In addition, no consumer-level DSL is going to be full duplex, so you're stuck with the same traffic handling as cable.  In other words, you have no idea what you're talking about.  Now... to attempt to PROPERLY address the issue...<br></DIV>UMMM....You have no idea either.   Some DSL providers do in fact offer 786-1000Kbps for the upload side.   Its also a fact that DSL is lower ping times all around because DSL is not shared as cable is.<br><br>Of course it all depends on where you live but I know a few people that have seen 56k speeds in the evening because everyone in the nighborhood is online downloading torrents and what not.   <br><br>My DSL line has gone down twice in the last year and was back up both times with in 30 mins, can you say that about cable?   Oh yeah, I have been enjoying 6016/608 speeds for a year and half now, how many cable providers were offering 5Mbps or more a year and half ago?<br><br>To show that cable really sucks, cable networks could offer 100Mbps or more to its users today but they rather milk there users to death first at the slowest speeds possible.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 20:02:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1197604"><b>gord27</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Basher13 <A HREF="/useremail/u/1000279"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><BR><BR>Sounds like your antivirus software is corrupted...<br>I would remove it, and use a registry cleaner, for <br>example.<br> </DIV>?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 10:57:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1000279"><b>Basher13</b></A> : Sounds like your antivirus software is corrupted...<br>I would remove it, and use a registry cleaner, for <br>example.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 02:54:52 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1197604"><b>gord27</b></A> : exact same thing happens to me.  with my old di604 and my new dgl4300.  the net connection stays cause the ip doesn't change.  the router just seems to hang for a few seconds and then the connection thing pops up that i'm disconnected and then right away reconnected.  seems to happen only when i set unlimited upload in azureus.  if i cap it at 40 (my max is 60ish) then it's fine.  50k causes the same to happen as if i unlimit it.  it's definately a router issue cause it's happened in two different cities for me.  but it happens with different routers too.  i was hoping the dgl would fix it happening.  oh yea and it happens on my old linksys bsfr... whatever that model is.  so anyway it seems to be a problem that can't be fixed.  oh yea and it happens if i'm downloading full as well.  just not as often.  btw, in the different cities i've been on different speed connections though both DSL.  it ONLY happens when i'm maxxing out the available bandwidth, whatever that happens to be.  there's got to be a router setting that can fix this.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 01:12:51 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/328901"><b>Snickerdo</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><SMALL>said by  Talon88 <A HREF="/useremail/u/858392"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>:</SMALL><br><br>Sorry to hear but it's not really 4300 problem. <br>The main problem is due to Cable internet is sucks.<br>Upload @ 35k is not really enough for VOIP already,<br>VOIP is a joke for Cable's slim upload speed & High Delay <br>when you really USE the conection. (Try ping when you <br>are BT'ing & you'll know what I mean)<br> And you are doing other high bandwidth task like <br>game & BT.  Of Cause, the Cable connection go dead. <br>Maybe DSL is your solution.....!</DIV>Damn dude lay off the crack.  'Cable' has nothing to do with this, rather, it is the ISP itself.  My cable ISP offers cable connections with 640kbit/s and 1Mbit/s uplink speeds.  The DSL providers offer 640, but nowhere near 1Mbit/s.  Latency on a utilized connection is going to be the same, regardless of the transport type.  In addition, no consumer-level DSL is going to be full duplex, so you're stuck with the same traffic handling as cable.  In other words, you have no idea what you're talking about.  Now... to attempt to PROPERLY address the issue...<br><br>Have you tried setting VoIP to the highest priority, and letting everything else use the auto-configured rules?  If VoIP still dies with a QoS setting of the highest priority, then you know you're outright using too much bandwidth that even QoS can't make work any better.  QoS is there to <I>assist</I>, and all traffic still must go through at some point or another, even if another process (read: VoIP) requires more bandwidth than it is willing to share.  Try giving your VoIP a priority of 1, and then assign everything else on the network a priority of 255 or use the auto rules.  See what happens.  If that doesn't help, you're just trying to squeeze too much bandwidth through too small a pipe, and QoS is unable to do a thing for you.<br><SMALL>--<br>Bigot - Someone that has won an argument with a Liberal.<BR><B><A HREF="/forum/canchat/">Yes, I CanChat. Can You?</A>     <A HREF="http://www.fiberal.ca">www.fiberal.ca</A></B></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2005 03:27:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Maybe I wasn't clear when i say 35k I mean Kilobytes/sec... voip should take like 1/3 of that at most (only when I'm talking)...  vonage normal quality is 128kbits/sec<br><br>Also the phone works fine, unless BT is going..    and even pings are fine when BT is open, I'm in CA nad most ut servers are TX and i ping ~80...   the only problem is eventually it'll disconnect.<br><br>Of corse it would go dead?  wthell why?  that doens't even make any sense.<br><br>Anyways I think I fixed it acutally lol... after 2 months of just closeing BT heh.  When i first set it up, my voip modem could not establish a connection.  After searching I found something that said turn off one of thse "speal applications" and turn off dynamic fragmentation.  I tried that and voip modem made connections and yea.  I tried turning it on now and voip modem made a conneciton no problem heh.  Nothing else changed heh.<br><br>Not only does dynamic fragmentation work now, but all disconects are gone.  I can leave BT at my max upload, phone and ut work fine (no delays at all).  I don't know what queueing algorithum they use but it does not work with dynamic fragmentation turned off.  Which shouldn't be.. spliting packets should only decrese delay slightly, and certianly not starve a connection long enough it disconnects.  Either their queueing algothum is worht crap or there is some bug somewhere.  Funny too xbox live doens't work with dynamic fragmentation on either, i'd think they would test it more with dynamic fragmetnation off.<br><br>Whatever I don't even care anymore.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 20:33:00 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/858392"><b>Talon88</b></A> : :::<br><br>Sorry to hear but it's not really 4300 problem. <br><br>The main problem is due to Cable internet is sucks.<br>Upload @ 35k is not really enough for VOIP already,<br>VOIP is a joke for Cable's slim upload speed & High Delay <br>when you really USE the conection. (Try ping when you <br>are BT'ing & you'll know what I mean)<br> <br>And you are doing other high bandwidth task like <br>game & BT.  Of Cause, the Cable connection go dead. <br><br>Maybe DSL is your solution.....!<br><br>:::<br><SMALL>--<br>[=Talon88=] <br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/remark,11672142~root=dlink">DI-624 Firmware update w/ Crash Recovery Step by S</A> -- <br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/remark,11716779~mode=flat">[Info] Some Clue about DI-624 Reboot</A></SMALL>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 19:00:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : Okay I'm getting sick of my 4300, I bought it because it was slightly cheaper than building a m0n0wall router (bsd based).<br><br>Reason I wanted the 4300 was the priority queueing.  Usually I have bittorrent running 24/7, however when I talk on my voip phone or play ut2k4 I want that traffic to get through soon as possible...  also I would like even web traffic to not be affected by BT in the background.<br><br>So with the 4300 I put ut2k4 and phone at 10 priority, web is at 80 ftp 120 BT/emule is 250...   theres alot of other stuff in there, I put teamspeak (voice com for games) at like 50.. anyways.<br><br>My cable modem can upload ~35k, BT is always limited to at least 25K.<br><br>If BT is going and I play ut or talk on the phone, eventually everything will get disconnected.<br><br>I will be talkin on the phone and all of a sudden the other person will go "hello?" and be a pause and they hangup, they cannot hear me talking.<br><br>Playing UT everything will start sliding on my screen except I can hear what is going on and see messages about hwat is going on for ~10 seconds and then I get offically disconnected.<br><br>Voice com in games very simialr to the voip phone, i can hear poeple talk for a bit but they cannot hear me.<br><br>torrents, the upload and download will both fall to 0.<br><br>After a few seconds everything works again perfectly.<br><br>Whats the problem?  Things like IRC however do not get disconnected, its not like the router is dropping all the connections at least...  when you restart the firewall windows will go "network cable unplugged" for a seocnd and then come back...  when my stuff gets messed up that doesn't happen, so I don't think the router is resetting itself somehow.   Nothing ever happened like this before i got the 4300, so I doubt its my cable modem or isp somehow.<br><br>Any suggestions?<br><br>Few other things, does not matter how many connections BT makes, I limit it to 200 overall and that doesn't stop anything, last night it only had 30 connections open and i was getting disconnected from ut every 20 min or so.<br><br>Old firmwares it happened as does newest 1.3, no effect.<br><br>Usuaually if I limit BT to 15K or 10K it doesn't happen for while, last night I had it limited to 5K up and it kept happening ever 20 min or so, if i leave it at 25K up it'll happen within a few minutes sometimes... if i let it got to 30K or so sometimes it will happen.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2005 18:15:57 EDT</pubDate>
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