anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? in VOIP Tech Chat http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r13477244 en Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:41:00 EDT Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:41:00 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498759 rizzo2dial :
said by hoffa3 See Profile:

actually my crossover cable was the one I took from modem that connected to router. I'm not sure why that cable didn't work.
I've never used a crossover cable to connect my cable modem to my router. Perhaps yours is actually a standard ethernet cable (which would explain all the difficulties you had getting things to work).

said by hoffa3 See Profile:

By the way my linksys hub only seems to work with it when plugged into port 1. I leave the hub unpowered
Hmm.. I didn't know hubs worked unpowered.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498759 Thu, 26 May 2005 05:18:06 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498754 hoffa3 : actually my crossover cable was the one I took from modem that connected to router. I'm not sure why that cable didn't work.

By the way my linksys hub only seems to work with it when plugged into port 1. I leave the hub unpowered]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498754 Thu, 26 May 2005 05:14:16 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498749 rizzo2dial : You're welcome. To confirm that the instructions I gave you (using a crossover cable) were correct, I just turned on my laptop and followed my own directions. They worked. :) Sounds like there's something wrong w/ your crossover cable. Perhaps buy a new one and try it out.

Rizzo]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498749 Thu, 26 May 2005 05:08:26 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498745 hoffa3 : gee, wow it worked. I took an old hub and tried it with crossover to hub uplink and then ethernet from that to adapter. That didn't work so I used a regular ethernet to uplink and it works now. Packet 8 is green now. Cool, I'm going to test it out on my neighbors hotspot and see how it works. Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498745 Thu, 26 May 2005 05:05:31 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498737 rizzo2dial : Most routers have auto-sensing ethernet ports, so whether you use a normal cable or a crossover cable, the router will accept it.

Do you have a second crossover cable you could try, or can you give the switch/hub simulation listed above a try?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498737 Thu, 26 May 2005 04:58:18 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498728 hoffa3 : yes, my cable is crossover. It says straight TPE on it and is wired differently from my normal cables. I have it connected from notebook lan to plugged in packet 8 adapter.

To be more specific, on wireless notebook LAN I select properties, advanced and under internet connection sharing I select "Allow other network users...internet connection". I don't do this for notebook LAN adapter.

If I take crossover from packet 8 adapter and plug into router LAN pops alive.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498728 Thu, 26 May 2005 04:53:58 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498708 rizzo2dial : Are you sure you're using a CROSSOVER cable?

EDIT: In case you were expecting the LAN Adapter to show an active connection w/o having anything plugged into it, you actually need to plug your DTA into the LAN port (using a crossover cable) for the connection to become active.

EDIT2: If you don't have a CROSSOVER cable, and if you have a spare hub or switch laying around, you can simulate what a CROSSOVER cable would do by:
a) Connecting the laptop's LAN port to the switch/hub using a standard ethernet cable
b) Connecting the P8 DTA to the switch/hub using a standard ethernet cable
(Neither connection above should go into the switch/hub's "uplink" port)
c) Don't plug any other ethernet cables into any other ports of the switch/hub!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498708 Thu, 26 May 2005 04:38:40 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498704 hoffa3 : It isn't working for me. Both adapters on notebook are set to automatic. When I setup sharing on wireless adapter, it plugs in static ip for lan of 10.0.0.1 (router). I'm using WIndows XP Home. Wireless lan always works but LAN always shows as unplugged.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498704 Thu, 26 May 2005 04:35:19 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498674 rizzo2dial : Don't set any static IP addresses to the notebook LAN. It needs to use DHCP. The wireless adapter, based on your settings, will be DHCP assigned an IP Address of 10.0.0.x by your router. ICS on your notebook will in turn assign your notebook's LAN adapter an IP address of 192.168.0.x. ICS is doing NAT from the wireless adapter's 10.0.0.x IP Address to the notebook ethernet 192.168.0.x address(es).

I've never had any success in bridging wireless and ethernet network adapters, but I've been 100% successful in using ICS to connect my P8 DTA to my laptop's ethernet connection w/ the laptop's wireless connection ICS enabled.

Rizzo

EDIT: It is no problem whatsoever that your wireless adapter is configured for DHCP assignment. Each network connection on your laptop is using a different DHCP server:
Wireless Network Connection -> Uses ROUTER'S DHCP Server (10.0.0.x)
Ethernet (LAN) Connection -> Uses laptop's own ICS DHCP server (192.168.0.x)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498674 Thu, 26 May 2005 04:17:19 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498653 hoffa3 : hmm, I'm having problems getting that working. Cable modem is on 192.168.1.1, router was on 192.168.0.1 but that was giving me problems so I put it on 10.0.0.1. Then notebook wireless adpt I enable ICS and for notebook LAN I put in something like
10.0.0.5, 255.255.255.0, gateway 10.0.0.2 and for dns I also put in 10.0.0.2. (10.0.0.2 is IP for wireless adapter)

Lan still isn't working. I can't do bridge connection either. My wireless adapter is set to automatically get ip so maybe that is the problem.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498653 Thu, 26 May 2005 04:03:56 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498197 rizzo2dial :
said by hoffa3 See Profile:

I just got a notebook pc and am trying it with packet 8 using the adapter plugged in to LAN on notebook. Anyone have any tips for this?
1) Use a crossover cable to connect your P8 DTA directly to your notebook's ethernet port.

2) Turn on Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) on your Wireless Network Interface.

Note: ICS enables a DHCP server on your notebook, where the DHCP server uses the internal IP address of 192.168.0.1. It DHCP assigns IP addresses using the scheme 192.168.0.x (where x > 1). If your wireless connection is hooked up to a router using the same 192.168.0.x addressing scheme, you'll need to change your router to another addressing scheme (i.e. 192.168.1.x).

3) After step 2 has been successfully completed, your DTA should receive a DHCP assigned IP address from your notebook and be able to share your notebook's wireless network connection (i.e. you should have a dialtone at this point).

Rizzo]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13498197 Thu, 26 May 2005 01:47:34 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13497395 hoffa3 : I just got a notebook pc and am trying it with packet 8 using the adapter plugged in to LAN on notebook. I'm guessing that I have to share my wireless conection with my LAN connection to get it to work but my LAN shows as disconnected and wireless is working fine. Anyone have any tips for this?

The reason I'm using the adapter is some providers don't allow usage over softphone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13497395 Wed, 25 May 2005 23:35:00 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13481247 stufried : Inside my own country absolutely. Internationally, is a different story. My wife had an 8 hour layover in Tokyo and it came in real handy, particulary since her mobile was not UMTs compatible.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13481247 Tue, 24 May 2005 08:31:54 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13480674 rizzo2dial : P8/FWD peering was fixed about a month or so ago. I was already familiar w/ using FWD to call P8 numbers; however, I was hoping for a true P8 softphone solution. Oh well. :hmm:

Rizzo]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13480674 Tue, 24 May 2005 04:02:27 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13480651 hoffa3 : Sorry, I never had Packet 8 working with X-lite. It was FWD I had working with Packet 8 where I could call back and forth. I don't believe that works anymore with them.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13480651 Tue, 24 May 2005 03:49:29 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13480341 hoffa3 : I've only used X-lite with packet 8 from landline. I haven't tried it with hotspot.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13480341 Tue, 24 May 2005 01:47:45 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13480277 joako : It was possible a while back to use Packet8 to make/recieve calls with Asterisk and probably softphones.

Then they added a few more security measures, it might still be possible, but all the easy hacks will no longer allow you to use the service with any off-the-shelf SIP device.
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said by hoffa3 See Profile:

I'm wondering if X-lite will work with Sunrocket. I've done it with Packet 8 but not Sunrocket yet. I suppose that Packet 8 is probably better for VOIP hotspot because of its lower bandwidth requirments
When you accessed P8 from a hotspot, did you do so via X-Lite (i.e. a SoftPhone) or did you actually have your P8 DTA w/ you? If you accessed it from a SoftPhone, please provide more details on how you accomplished that. Thanks.

Rizzo]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13480253 Tue, 24 May 2005 01:22:38 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13480204 joako : Before the "VoIP Craze" I used a Softphone at a busy Starbucks using the microphone and speakers of my IBM ThinkPad... it worked, and that's about it.

I see no reason to use a HotSpot for VoIP access -- I have a cell phone if I want to talk on the phone away from my home.
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I used my notebook and did VOIP at various airport hotspots and it worked pretty good.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13478706 Mon, 23 May 2005 21:44:23 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13478683 hoffa3 : Hmm, well maybe they will get it in the future.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13478683 Mon, 23 May 2005 21:41:33 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13478674 keason : Some hotspots block SIP ports- it's hit and miss.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13478674 Mon, 23 May 2005 21:40:01 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13477628 lstevens : No, Sunrocket validates you via MAC address of your Gizmo,]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13477628 Mon, 23 May 2005 19:33:43 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13477379 hoffa3 : I'm wondering if X-lite will work with Sunrocket. I've done it with Packet 8 but not Sunrocket yet. I suppose that Packet 8 is probably better for VOIP hotspot because of its lower bandwidth requirments]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13477379 Mon, 23 May 2005 19:04:04 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13477354 montee4 : No, I was using the X-Pro softphone and a USB headset]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13477354 Mon, 23 May 2005 19:01:34 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13477328 hoffa3 : you don't need the VOIP adapter if you are just using headset, right?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13477328 Mon, 23 May 2005 18:59:32 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13477307 Nate425 : I've used it, but the quality was pretty sketchy. Not really worth the time to set up and use. I think I'd rather just use a cell phone.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13477307 Mon, 23 May 2005 18:57:42 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13477287 montee4 : I have used Broadvoice and VoicePulse using my laptop and a USB headset. Worked great. Granted I was the only one at the Starbucks at that time and wasn't competing for bandwith with others.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13477287 Mon, 23 May 2005 18:55:43 EDT Re: anyone tried VOIP in hotspots? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13477282 jgwilliams : I tried this in Miami and it was fair. The hotspot was, I believe, trough Sprint. I am not sure what the connectivity was however I can tell you the internet speed was pretty poor. In this situation I could hold a conversation however I don't think I would just sit and talk socially. I have heard of much better experiences from others however.
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