actually on the cox network here in AZ cox techs that i know have told me they get a easy 10 down and 10 up with the Motorola hack, they even told me how to do it, but the thought of me loosing access and going back to vpn or dial up is a good enough incentive not to -- its official everyone in sahuarita is a spy u cant even post with out somebody calling the authories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!