FiOS TV Features Update in Verizon Fiber Optics http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r13580131 en Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:12:41 EDT Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:12:41 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14270616 TurtleFan : Well, I just called again after a month or two since the last time a nd they said the same thing. Still working on franchise rights...

But, this time they did say to call the local government in Wyckoff and check to see the status of any FIOS franchise agreements, wich I didn't think about.

So if anyone have any numbers, post em :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14270616 Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:44:53 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14261423 snappakazoo : As a fellow Wyckoffian, please post any info you get. I called a few weeks ago and they would not give a time table.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14261423 Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:20:09 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14261079 TurtleFan : Is there any direct number to ask about FIOS TV in NJ?

Also, I just got an HDTV tuner. Anyone know if their digital channels will be encrypted or un encrypted?

Thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14261079 Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:33:06 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14224074 TurtleFan : WE got a phone call from cablevision asking us if we want to sign up for the tripple play of Digital cable, digital phone and modem. We figure this must mean that Verizon is getting close to signing a statewide franchise. Lets hope so :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14224074 Fri, 26 Aug 2005 07:15:55 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14208186 ThomC :
quote:
reply to neutronic
Re: FiOS TV Features Update

What is a FIOS hummer?


>>>Insert Dirty Joke Here!!! :o:o:o

Sorry, but that's just too easy a setup line!
:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14208186 Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:31:20 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14204610 sunilonln :
said by biochemistry See Profile :

What is a FIOS hummer?
see »Anyone else seen the FIOS HUMMER?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14204610 Tue, 23 Aug 2005 21:04:30 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14204569 biochemistry : What is a FIOS hummer?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14204569 Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:59:17 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14193179 Taget : 300 channels. Sounds familiar. Wonder how many you get once home shopping, pay-per-view, VOD, league sports packages, premium foreign language channels, and music/muzak channels are subtracted?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14193179 Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:46:25 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14192916 quadx6 : Bill would clear way for TV by phone line

Cable carriers ask Perry to veto plan, which also frees firms to raise rates

08:55 PM CDT on Wednesday, August 10, 2005

By TERRY MAXON and SUDEEP REDDY / The Dallas Morning News

Texans may soon have more choice in how they get television service, thanks to legislation passed Wednesday and sent to the governor.

The far-reaching bill gives telecommunications companies the ability to obtain a statewide franchise to offer video service. That provision came over the loud objections of cable TV companies, which historically have had to fight for their franchises city by city.

Some consumers could also face higher rates for basic phone service under provisions of the bill that give telephone companies greater power to set their own prices.

SBC Communications and Verizon Communications, which pushed hardest for the legislation, praised the Legislature and urged the governor to sign the bill.

The Texas Cable & Telecommunications Association said Gov. Rick Perry should veto it and warned of legal challenges on the horizon.

"The next step in this process will almost certainly be the courts," said association chairman Tom Kinney, "where the substantial legal issues contained in this legislation hopefully will be resolved in a more thoughtful way, without the undue influence of hordes of SBC lobbyists trying to sway the outcome in their favor."

Both SBC and Verizon are testing systems to offer video to consumers in the near future, competing directly with cable companies. The industry calls it the "triple play" of telecom services �€“ voice, data and video.

Cable companies have gotten a jump on the competition, adding data and then voice services to their traditional television.

But SBC is investing $4 billion through 2008 to build a fiber-optics system to provide voice, data and video, and Verizon is about to begin selling video service on its fiber-optic network, with the first customers expected in September or October in Keller.

SBC Texas president Jan Newton said more competition means "better prices and better products for consumers."

Steve Banta, Verizon's Southwest region president, said, "All Texans should be proud that our state is the first in the nation to open up the video market so that consumers can have a choice of video providers."

Cable companies had first criticized the legislation as being unfair to cities, saying it permitted "redlining" by letting telephone companies focus on customers in wealthier areas.

Because the Legislature was called into two special sessions to deal with school funding and property tax reform, the TCTA said, lawmakers should have focused their attention on education issues rather than telecommunications.

The industry organization repeated that criticism Wednesday after the House approved the bill 144-1, a day after the Senate approved the same bill. The governor is expected to sign the legislation.

"Even if the Legislature is able to pass some limited reforms on these important issues, SB5 is bad for consumers, bad for competition and bad for Texas �€“ and should not become law," said Mr. Kinney, president of Time Warner Cable's Austin division.

Cable companies with municipal franchise agreements will be at a decided disadvantage to telephone companies, said Dick Kirby, Comcast's executive director for government affairs in Dallas.

"The Texas legislation has the impact of picking winners and losers in the marketplace by giving the big phone companies an unfair competitive advantage," he said. The legislation is "essentially stripping away most of the franchise requirements that all cable operators are required to live with today when they provide service."

Cities had fought earlier versions of the legislation. However, revised bills grandfathered existing franchise agreements and forced new competitors to meet some of the same requirements as franchise holders.

"I think that's why I think you saw the Texas Municipal League and the cities go neutral on this," said Mr. Banta of Verizon.

The bill also would allow telephone companies to raise their basic local rates, which have been frozen for years at about $11 a month before taxes and fees. On Jan. 1, an incumbent telephone company such as SBC or Verizon could raise rates in markets with at least 100,000 population.

Markets with 30,000 to 100,000 people also would be deregulated Jan. 1 if the state Public Utility Commission determines that the incumbent telephone company has at least three competitors, including one providing residential telephone service and another offering mobile telephone service not connected to the incumbent.

Smaller markets of fewer than 30,000 people would be deregulated in 2007 unless the PUC decides they need to remain regulated.

The immediate impact on consumers is unclear, but public-interest groups are wary. The bill was opposed by AARP, Consumers Union, Common Cause, Texas ISP Association, Save Muni Wireless and Technology for All.

"We know you're outnumbered; there are more registered telephone industry lobbyists than members of the House of Representatives," the groups said in a letter Tuesday to state leaders. "But this session was called to reform school finance and lower property taxes, not to appease lobbyists demanding special-interest legislation simply to increase their profits."

Companies and some lawmakers argued that those customers could receive similar service from competitors.

Consumer groups said other options, such as wireless or Internet-based phone service, were priced far higher.

"I expect higher phone bills for millions of Texans who want little- or no-frills phone service," said Tim Morstad, policy analyst for Consumers Union.

The bill also opens the door for electric utilities to carry Internet signals over power lines, a technology that could improve efficiency of the transmission grid and allow consumers to receive broadband Internet service in a new way.

Among the potential services: automatically notifying utilities of power outages, quicker disconnects and reconnects of customers, and automated meter reading. Ultimately, the technology would allow pricing plans from power providers that offer different rates throughout a day.

"These are all things utility companies have talked about and wanted for decades," said Jay Birnbaum, vice president of Current Communications, a provider of broadband-over-power-lines, or BPL, service.

Amateur radio operators have objected to BPL technology, saying it interferes with communications equipment that could be used in emergencies. The companies say that newer technology will not disrupt the radio signals. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14192916 Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:09:50 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14186510 TurtleFan : As of 4:00 PM today, the FIOS Hummer was spotted at the Drug Fair Parking lot in Wyckoff, NJ. If someone can corner them and ask about the testing of the TV Service, or the update on their franchise service, most appreciated :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14186510 Sun, 21 Aug 2005 16:10:55 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14151868 anon : Anyone know anything about Huntington Beach, CA? HB was early (I got installed in January), but have heard nothing about TV service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14151868 Wed, 17 Aug 2005 02:05:13 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14086018 starrin :
said by MinnJohn:

I am doing a research project on the Verizon FiOS rollout.
MinnJohn
Attempted to email you. Bounced! Am also doing VZ FIOS research.
Please email me.
TKS
starrin@virginianewssource.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14086018 Mon, 08 Aug 2005 12:47:02 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14081963 comcastfan11 : I would go for a statewide franchise agreement but unfortunately that will probably never happen. There needs to be some competition to comcast and not in the form of satellite since not everybody can get it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14081963 Sun, 07 Aug 2005 21:05:27 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14081595 eXodus : As far as I'm concerned, right now, they will need a town by town agreement, unless they get the state wide passed which like Owen mentioned (read his port) will negate the town by town negotiations.

-eXodus]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14081595 Sun, 07 Aug 2005 20:08:19 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14081533 robjlevin : Either your father doesn't know as much as you think or you're misunderstanding something somewhere.

The whole idea of a statewide franchise agreement is to do away with the need for individual franchise agreements. There would only be one needed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14081533 Sun, 07 Aug 2005 19:58:15 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14081363 anon : I just got Comcasts HD service. I have to say so far im extremely disappointed. Channels are looking blury (not only on the HD-TV) had to call 3 times to get an actual appointment to get a guy to check it out. He ran a line from the main line directly and said the problem was on the main line and he would setup a tech to work on it. Called 3 days later... no appointment. Got one now. Two of the digital local stations block up every second so they are unwatchable. There are VERY few actual HD channels even offered (but i knew that going on).

Overall I can't wait for FIOSTV to come to MoCo. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14081363 Sun, 07 Aug 2005 19:30:15 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14081237 OwenMeany : Yes, but you do know that Verizon is pushing for legislation similar to Texas' for a state wide franchise agreement. Which would negate the town to town negotiations.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14081237 Sun, 07 Aug 2005 19:08:14 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14081065 eXodus : He told me that does not happen in New Jersey and it goes town by town.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14081065 Sun, 07 Aug 2005 18:45:27 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14080302 HaloBox :
said by eXodus See Profile:

Once the state signs it, the way the state law is setup, verizon has to make an agreement with all the towns they want to install service to.
Ask your Dad what happens if Verizon gets a statewide franchise agreement.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14080302 Sun, 07 Aug 2005 16:33:18 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14080028 eXodus : I talked to my father who works for comcast, he knows cable tv well as he has been in the business for years, he told me it wont be surprising if the state takes a year to sign it. Once the state signs it, the way the state law is setup, verizon has to make an agreement with all the towns they want to install service to. If one town says yes the next one over can say no and that will be how the Service will be distributed. This I do not have any sources on the law just from what my father told me. So people of NJ can expect to wait awhile.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14080028 Sun, 07 Aug 2005 15:45:49 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14078901 comcastfan11 : I thought I heard that FIOS TV would start up this fall. Anybody hear that? I for one since I am in Ocean County will probably have to wait a year or two until FIOS & FIOS TV comes. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14078901 Sun, 07 Aug 2005 12:32:32 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14077174 eXodus : Has anyone heard of any talk about FiOS TV in Morris County, NJ? They just recently laid fiber down for internet and are installing in about a week. Or shall I keep it known in my head that if they just recently ran the fiber I should not expect the TV service anytime soon.

-eXodus]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14077174 Sun, 07 Aug 2005 02:20:29 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14072556 TurtleFan : Any updates on the franchise agreements for Wyckoff/ Bergan County? I'm wondering if there's an official number we can call for updates...

Cablevision finally added GSN to their lineups, so it looks like for now we'll be going with IO Digital Cable, but we're still interested in the VErizon deals :)..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14072556 Sat, 06 Aug 2005 12:21:13 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13983676 anon : I remember here in Montgomery County Maryland, getting FIOS this past winter and being told "this summer or fall" to expect fiostv. Now it looks a looooong ways away]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13983676 Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:55:02 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13978683 UofMiamiGrad :
said by bigpapae35 See Profile:

I am sick of cablevsion, I want my fios tv today. If New York accepts the statewide franchise agreement today, do you think we can get Fios Tv service this fall, or do you think we are another year away?
Ed,
If I recall you are in Great Neck, and they are already in talks with VZ for a franchise agreement. They met a few weeks ago, but no word if progress was made. Also, NY is not doing a statewide franchise agreement anytime soon. Here is the Newsday article on the talks between Great Neck and VZ: »www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzca···eadlines ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13978683 Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:50:31 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13978631 bigpapae35 : I am sick of cablevsion, I want my fios tv today. If New York accepts the statewide franchise agreement today, do you think we can get Fios Tv service this fall, or do you think we are another year away?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13978631 Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:44:23 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13972705 HaloBox : It was not completed in the last special session. It's essentially done but they still have a couple of things that need to be completed in committee before it goes to Governor Perry for signature.

They won't do anything with it until the school reform funding bills are complete. They reconvene tomorrow afternoon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13972705 Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:15:07 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13972049 SOAHF : Ahh.. I guess this isnt off subject.. LOL it is TV realated.. But comcrap does sure as heck cut the Dish/Directv cables coming from the LNB.. I had to fix that issue =P.. But back to FIOS TV... Anymore news on Bill in Texas? I cannot find anything.. Still waiting for FIOS TV in Grapvine Texas.. Oh well last I heard this fall.....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13972049 Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:26:21 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13971172 bobTeatow : (Reality check for the troll...)

I asked my FIOS installers to string the fiber a little closer to the cable TV line - so that it didn't hang down so much lower - They adjusted it a bit but said they were under strict orders not to touch or cross the cable company lines. I see that they wrap and bundle FIOS lines with old copper lines along the street - but maintain a strict separation from the cable lines.

Much as each service would like to cut the other - I think 99.99% of the line men (and women) out there know that both companies will lose if they start playing those kind of games.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13971172 Sun, 24 Jul 2005 09:00:02 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13969172 trey_w : He probably works for Comcrap...

Go somewhere else troll]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13969172 Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:25:43 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13967283 anon : Can't you read backwards? :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13967283 Sat, 23 Jul 2005 17:08:21 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13966926 HenryFarpolo : "They cut cable lines everyday to try to make there service look better"..........Sounds like a well thought out response. Also...."Yes it may not cost as much but read the fine print... You get what you pay for"......Wonder what cable company this genius works for!! Nuff said!!

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13966926 Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:04:12 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13966743 anon : You people are crazy. Verizon is Sh!t. They cut cable lines everyday to try to make there service look better. You switch and you'll see that the service sucks. Yes it may not cost as much but read the fine print... You get what you pay for.

eeyolpme_tsacmoc]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13966743 Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:37:40 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13929437 Thespis :
quote:
Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst has said the Senate will not consider any bill that emerges from a conference committee until public school finance is settled.

Well, that's good. I'm all for getting the Verizon deal done, but first things first. School finance is why they're in special session in the first place...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13929437 Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:11:33 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13925985 HaloBox : We'll see if it gets through the Texas Senate in the next couple of days.


"Unless the Senate agrees with the House changes, a conference committee will have to work out differences between two versions of the bill. But there's little time to do so, because the special session is scheduled to end Wednesday.

Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst has said the Senate will not consider any bill that emerges from a conference committee until public school finance is settled."
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13925985 Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:15:26 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13924486 mikedz4 : the governor has to sign to bill for it to become law then you can jump up and down.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13924486 Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:21:38 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13922456 John1989 : I think now that state wide franchising has been done in Texas it will get the ball rolling in other states. It will most likely make it easier to do the same thing in other states now that there is already someone else who has done it. I surely hope it happens in other states, because I'm not sure how well this fiber deployment will turn out without large distribution of video to bring in more money. Verizon will soon need to show ROI (return on investment) otherwise it could mean alot of problems for the companies stock, and company overall. Video services should help them rake in more money per install and help them achieve a better ROI.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13922456 Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:07:35 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13921141 peterl1365 : Considering it's the Texas legislature, I'm pretty sure that it affects Texas only.

Hopefully, Verizon will be able to leverage this victory into other states. I think legislation like this will be very popular among consumers in every state, most of whom dislike their cable company. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13921141 Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:31:58 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13921134 HaloBox : It isn't law, yet. I hope the provision about waiting until exisiting franchise agreements expire isn't true. That would mean Verizon has to wait until 2008 in my city. Until that time, they'd have to operate under the same terms as Charter Communications if I'm reading the news article correctly.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13921134 Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:31:09 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13920957 John1989 : Does this cover all states? The way its stated in the article it makes it seem like state wide franchise agreements are allowed in all states, but I in this forum it was stated earlier that it is only for texas. Is this true or is it for all states, because if it is, then Verizon has just jumped a giant hurdle.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13920957 Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:03:58 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13920923 JohnA :
They made some supposedly minor changes. Back to the Senate. If they approve it with those changes, as is, then you can jump up and down.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13920923 Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:59:29 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13920837 Woof Woof : Can I start jumping up and down yet? Since it passed the house, that's it, right? It's law?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13920837 Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:47:29 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13918979 musicforme : The bill passed the State House ... Link to article in DMN:
»www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent···182.html

Now, all I need to know are the DVR offerings or how it will interact with my Tivo before moving forward...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13918979 Mon, 18 Jul 2005 02:17:30 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13913924 SOAHF : Bring on the TV.. I cant find anything locally (grapevine, TX) that states that the franchise is around the corner or that Verizon has applied.. I guess i'll have to start going to the city council meetings. Bring on competition.. I'll keep my fingers crossed that Texas passes the bill.

ETA for grapvine is the Fall the last I heard. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13913924 Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:09:33 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13912555 Lee GWB : Yes. I called and was told on the cuff that they are waiting on
"State wide franchise agreements" and Other legislation.
I was in Best buy yesterday and they had a Verizon Rep standing by the cable modems. While she did not speak to me directly she was explaining to a OOL customer of FIOS and its Video and other potentials.
Lee
--
I don't feel Tardy www.gwbmcfund.org]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13912555 Sun, 17 Jul 2005 08:41:27 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13908663 TurtleFan : Has anyone had Verizon call them up about the TV service yet? I've had someone calling me for the past two d ays looking for either of my parents. I assumed it was a telemearketer, because I had to say hello twice before they picked up, but t his idiot actually called back the second day like they promised they would. Could this be Verizon wanting to sign me up for the tV test service?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13908663 Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:28:39 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13890472 Woof Woof : Wooo Hoooo! The front page news on BBR today is the State wide franchise agreement bill passed in Texas.

I might be able to get FIOS TV this fall now!!!

I'm stuck in a little part of Keller that is actually City of Ft. Worth, and until this bill passed, my chances for FIOS TV were pretty crappy. Living in Ft. Worth has screwed me over many times! If you are thinking of moving to Keller, make sure you are in CITY of Keller! (And not in SWB territory either!)

Addendum:
Ahh crap... this just passed the senate... still has to go to the house. Uhhg. Plenty of time to kill it again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13890472 Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:27:54 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13882139 bobTeatow : Outback, you are seeing wrong!

Verizon's deployment starts with CableTV standards and adds on to that. It will cost them next to nothing(extra) to carry a bunch of local and base tier channels using good old analog 6Mhz NTSC channels. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13882139 Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:24:15 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13879880 TurtleFan : Any news on the Bergan County Franchise Agreements or updates? They where supposedly going for them two weeks or so ago..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13879880 Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:34:19 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13876828 neutronic : FWIW--I was told by the FiOS tech that did my installation that they would at least support the basic channels (not sure exactly how "basic" is defined") would not require a STB.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13876828 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:42:04 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13875194 DMS1 :
said by DDRcasey:

Why would they go analog. It's being said that all analog tv distrobution will be shut off in 2009. Even if it isnt, they would want people to go digital.
The big advantage of analog is it would please the mass of luddites who are reluctant to use an STB on each TV. Remember, Verizon's main aim is to steal customers from cable, and the best way to do that is to make the transition seemless (other than the cost saving).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13875194 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:32:52 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13875107 anon : Why would they go analog. It's being said that all analog tv distrobution will be shut off in 2009. Even if it isnt, they would want people to go digital. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13875107 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:21:10 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13874432 outback2k1 : Given the nature of FIOS-TV, I don't see NTSC (analog tv) distribution fitting into their system anywhere.

If Verizon were smart, though, they would offer ATSC or unencryped QAM for all the "basic" channels, which will be supported by many of the upcoming Digital (and current HD) TV's.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13874432 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:54:53 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13873511 PONman : No I don't. I am very familiar with PON technology itself, however am I less aware of how the Telcos will use it, as it is a very flexible system. If I had to guess, I'd guess yes. If you can have one digital cable box in your house, but still get analog cable on the rest of the TVs in your home from a cable provider, I would assume Verizon would like to compete on that level as well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13873511 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 15:19:00 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13872282 anon : Mannix, do you know if Verizon is planning to do analog video?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13872282 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:45:45 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13871781 bobTeatow : We'll just have to wait and see how the return path is implemented... but...

I expect that early field trial units will use a separate Cat5 path.

Later field trial units may mux the ethernet signals onto the same physical coax and demux in or near the ONT. The mux/demuxer might be built-in or separate little boxes.

There is at least one company www.coaxsys.com that specializes in equipment designs that allow for Ethernet packets over ordinary TV coax...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13871781 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:38:53 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13871703 PONman : Yes, the Moto unit (not in the field) has a return path on the coax. Indeed many "not in the field yet" ONTs have coax return paths. However the 610s and 610Xs in the field now do not. As of now, with a 610x, you would get regular/basic TV throughout the house, but if you have a TV with a set-top-box for VoD, PPV, or DVR, you will require an ethernet return path for these TVs only. I'd expect to see coax return paths (in the field) in the not to distant future, however this is not a critical feature as it will take Verizon some time to get their video service off the groung anyhow.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13871703 Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:30:11 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13869054 anon : The Motorola ONT uses just the coax: »www.motorola.com/content/0,,5537···,00.html

To date I haven't seen anything making it clear how the Tellabs ONTs handle the video return path. Of course the 611 (Vinci) ONT is the only one I've ever found any sort of datasheet for.

It might be interesting to see what this says about the return path: »www.itu.int/md/meetingdoc.asp?ty···5-C-0013]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13869054 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 23:53:07 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13868860 DMS1 :
said by fios-eng-team:

Can you imagine telling people signing up for FIOS TV that 2 cables will be needed per tv? Sorry that is probably one the of silliest questions posted on this forum to date
I asked the question in response to Mannix16's reply saying that there would be an Ethernet return path from the STB to the ONT. I agree that forcing people to install Cat 5 would be silly. Please enlighten us to the actual solution. Is it wireless?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13868860 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 23:26:37 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13867468 anon : Can you imagine telling people signing up for FIOS TV that 2 cables will be needed per tv? Sorry that is probably one the of silliest questions posted on this forum to date]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13867468 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:51:34 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13865701 xirian :
said by DMS1 See Profile:

said by PONman See Profile:

DMS1,
No, the coax path from the ONT to the STB is unidirectional as well. There is no "reciever" on the RF side of the ONT. The ONT does indeed relay all information from the STB upstream via the 1310nm return path used for data and POTS, however connectivity is achieved through an ethernet return path from the STB to the ONT.
So, does this mean that it will be necessary to run RJ45 to all the STBs alongside the coax?
this sounds like it'd be pretty stupid if its true.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13865701 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:17:24 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13865208 DMS1 :
said by PONman See Profile:

DMS1,
No, the coax path from the ONT to the STB is unidirectional as well. There is no "reciever" on the RF side of the ONT. The ONT does indeed relay all information from the STB upstream via the 1310nm return path used for data and POTS, however connectivity is achieved through an ethernet return path from the STB to the ONT.
So, does this mean that it will be necessary to run RJ45 to all the STBs alongside the coax?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13865208 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:18:30 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13865178 PONman : DMS1,
No, the coax path from the ONT to the STB is unidirectional as well. There is no "reciever" on the RF side of the ONT. The ONT does indeed relay all information from the STB upstream via the 1310nm return path used for data and POTS, however connectivity is achieved through an ethernet return path from the STB to the ONT. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13865178 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:14:54 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13863551 xirian :
said by bigpapae35 See Profile:

Can you imagine a image sensor and microphone on the STB to video conference using your STB and TV. Thats a great ideo, are any STB manufacturers planning on doing this?

Then you dont have any need to buy new telephones and waste money on lcd screens for those telephones.
Well I guess playboy will have to come up with a new 'channel']]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13863551 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:03:05 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13863144 bigpapae35 : Can you imagine a image sensor and microphone on the STB to video conference using your STB and TV. Thats a great ideo, are any STB manufacturers planning on doing this?

Then you dont have any need to buy new telephones and waste money on lcd screens for those telephones.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13863144 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:12:58 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13863060 anon : most cable companies are 750 with most being 860mhz]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13863060 Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:03:17 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13858889 TampaShooter : There's a radio ad I've heard here in Tampa FL which is designed to get consumers to push their local government to approve the addition of the new Verizon TV service. In that ad, they mention 'video conferencing'.

Any thoughts where/how a two-way service like video conferencing fits in?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13858889 Sun, 10 Jul 2005 19:27:45 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13855164 anon : "So am I right in thinking that the coax path from the STBs to the ONT will be bidirectional, but the video path over fiber is unidirectional (since there is only a single wavelength laser for video). If so, I assume the ONT relays the STB upstream information onto the same datapath as used for upstream voice and internet."

Correct.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13855164 Sun, 10 Jul 2005 05:37:54 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13850442 OwenMeany :
said by neodur See Profile:

According to their marketing video, the video spectrum "dedicated" to video is 860MHz.

How does that compare to Comcast or Cablevision's coax lines? you guys tell me...
Well I would say that it doesnt. Its far superior considering that Comcast and Cablevision operate 750MHz systems that share voice, video and data, whereas Verizons 860MHz is all video. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13850442 Sat, 09 Jul 2005 13:50:33 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13849644 neodur : According to their marketing video, the video spectrum "dedicated" to video is 860MHz.

How does that compare to Comcast or Cablevision's coax lines? you guys tell me...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13849644 Sat, 09 Jul 2005 11:33:33 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13816006 DMS1 :
said by neutronic See Profile:

No, no phone connection. It will travel over the same bandwidth allocated for transmission of video. Video (CATV) has an allocation of bandwidth, phone has an allocation (up to 4 POTS lines), and data also has an allocation (supposedly up to 100Mbps from the start). There is also plenty of bandwidth to spare should Verizon decide to offer other nextgen services or bump up bandwidth to an existing service.
So am I right in thinking that the coax path from the STBs to the ONT will be bidirectional, but the video path over fiber is unidirectional (since there is only a single wavelength laser for video). If so, I assume the ONT relays the STB upstream information onto the same datapath as used for upstream voice and internet.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13816006 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 10:00:08 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13815855 neutronic : No, no phone connection. It will travel over the same bandwidth allocated for transmission of video. Video (CATV) has an allocation of bandwidth, phone has an allocation (up to 4 POTS lines), and data also has an allocation (supposedly up to 100Mbps from the start). There is also plenty of bandwidth to spare should Verizon decide to offer other nextgen services or bump up bandwidth to an existing service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13815855 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:27:11 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13815763 DMS1 : Does anyone know how Verizon TV is going to handle the upstream path for things like PPV ordering? Is it going to require a phone connection? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13815763 Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:04:15 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13808571 anon : The local cable company doesnt have anythign to do with the cable inside your house. You own that house, and most likely they didnt put in in, some low payed carpenter most likely put that in. They have nothing to do with whats in your house. What about DirecTV or Dish, they dont have nothing to do with the cable in your house already, and its the same cable that cable companies use. O and i heard someplace that it goes though Cat 5e, it might of been some place in these forums, cause like newer ONT's dont have hte RG6 port? Maybe i was just dreaming, lol. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13808571 Mon, 04 Jul 2005 02:50:09 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13807994 Melencio :
said by swamechanic See Profile:

Even if it is regular coax cable I doubt they will be able to use the coax that is already there because the local cable company that installed it would probably be a little upset to see there service being disconnected only to find there competetor using the coax they installed but I don't know that for sure.
I don't think the local cable company had anything to do with installing the cabling inside MY house.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13807994 Mon, 04 Jul 2005 00:33:25 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13806631 xirian :
said by swamechanic See Profile:

From what I have got out of these forums they will use a coax cable from the ONT to the TV.

I can't say this for sure until they hook somebody up but this is what I have gotten out of reading these forums.

Even if it is regular coax cable I doubt they will be able to use the coax that is already there because the local cable company that installed it would probably be a little upset to see there service being disconnected only to find there competetor using the coax they installed but I don't know that for sure.
The cable company isnt going to have any say over the coax allready in the house. What are they gonna do? "Oh, going to another provider? Lets waste some money, send out some guys, and rip out our cable!"?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13806631 Sun, 03 Jul 2005 20:23:34 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13806417 swamechanic : From what I have got out of these forums they will use a coax cable from the ONT to the TV.

I can't say this for sure until they hook somebody up but this is what I have gotten out of reading these forums.

Even if it is regular coax cable I doubt they will be able to use the coax that is already there because the local cable company that installed it would probably be a little upset to see there service being disconnected only to find there competetor using the coax they installed but I don't know that for sure.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13806417 Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:47:37 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13806361 anon : I have a question regarding how does FiOS TV get to the TV? What type of cable to do they use or can their service go over the cable that is already run to each room. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13806361 Sun, 03 Jul 2005 19:37:56 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13796911 snappakazoo : No MPEG ENcoders - the signal is encoded on the Verizon side.
Yes MPEG DEcoders.

At least that is how DirecTV works.
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said by DMS1 See Profile:

said by TripmasterG See Profile:

Doesn't each simultaneous recording require it's own mpeg encoder in the box? So I'm guessing only one or two of the six would be HDTV to keep the costs down.
The system will be 100% digital, so no MPEG encoders will be required at all.
Sweet!:) Even two simultaneous recordings with Cox hasn't been enough for us some nights.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13792888 Fri, 01 Jul 2005 18:41:46 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13781262 swamechanic : Can't say how accurate this info is but I talked to a fios rep. last night and he said that one of the packages for the TV service will include around 180 channels for $35.00 a month. Seems like a good price to me so we will have to wait and see.

He also siad that in the next 2 months it will be rolling out in Keller Texas which is the test bed for it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13781262 Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:04:46 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13781058 anon : Encoding is done in the VHO - Video Hub Office then the data transmission is sent to a settop box... Think of it as Video on demand but in real-time (except for the delay for the encoding and transmission to your box...)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13781058 Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:35:41 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13771716 DMS1 :
said by TripmasterG See Profile:

Doesn't each simultaneous recording require it's own mpeg encoder in the box? So I'm guessing only one or two of the six would be HDTV to keep the costs down.
The system will be 100% digital, so no MPEG encoders will be required at all.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13771716 Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:09:26 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13771045 TripmasterG : Doesn't each simultaneous recording require it's own mpeg encoder in the box? So I'm guessing only one or two of the six would be HDTV to keep the costs down.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13771045 Wed, 29 Jun 2005 02:56:31 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13770829 kevin73 : neutronic

Verizon TV must be less than Dish, not just the cable's fee.

300 channels, 18 sport,.... sounds like marketing lingo.
Hype sometimes tries to overshadow the final cost.

Anyone shop for a new car lately?

Hope my Telco company doesn't screwup their opportunity.

KC]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13770829 Wed, 29 Jun 2005 01:58:34 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13770792 UofMiamiGrad :
said by NickGN:

Newsday Article June 28, 2005
Fios TV & Great Neck
»www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzca···78.story
Fishman better not hold this up! I am sick of Lake Success making a big stink over FIOS since VZ started putting the fiber on the poles, they complained in the Great Neck Record about it. Keeping my fingers crossed for good news.

I found her info:

Alice Fishman
Chair, GN/NSCC
Village of Russell Gardens
6 Tain Drive
Great Neck, NY 11021
482-8246/ fx 482-8259

We know where to call and complain if she doesn't move this forward.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13770792 Wed, 29 Jun 2005 01:48:21 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13770735 anon : Newsday Article June 28, 2005
Fios TV & Great Neck
»www.newsday.com/business/ny-bzca···78.story]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13770735 Wed, 29 Jun 2005 01:38:40 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13770607 kevin73 : LLivingLarge

JC?

May I also blurt out estraneous feelings?

No one is checking our posts.

KC

]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13770607 Wed, 29 Jun 2005 01:12:02 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13748749 mmcgovern : I just got my FiOS two weeks ago. The tech mentioned they expect to do some testing of FiOS TV to select customers by the end of July in my town.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13748749 Sun, 26 Jun 2005 09:18:30 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13747333 anon : Any of you from Keller have FIOS TV. I live in Keller also, and ive been hearing that they are running the trial here but like, how in the hell can I get it, or like sign-up to get it, etc. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13747333 Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:42:18 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13747296 anon : Great information on the focus group for Verizon. If there is anything else that you found interesting I would be glad to know since I am doing a research project on the Verizon FiOS rollout.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13747296 Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:36:37 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13746179 vic102482 : 6 at the same time? That is awesome!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13746179 Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:20:37 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13744517 UofMiamiGrad :
said by SuperG03 See Profile:

If I remember correctly, at least here in TX, VZ offers DSL & satelite TV in a deal, so maybe he got something similar to that. I highly doubt it was FIOS TV though. If that person could call back up and get some more detail, that would be great.

SuperG03
You're probably right, it might have been DirecTV they were pushing, and not FIOS TV. I am waiting for a franchise agreement to be signed for up here, since the franchise tv footprint (various villages) have all been wired and turned on. Just need the franchise agreement and TV can be offered, assuming VZ has the VDH up and running.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13744517 Sat, 25 Jun 2005 15:02:14 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13744482 SuperG03 : If I remember correctly, at least here in TX, VZ offers DSL & satelite TV in a deal, so maybe he got something similar to that. I highly doubt it was FIOS TV though. If that person could call back up and get some more detail, that would be great.

SuperG03]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13744482 Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:55:51 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13744465 UofMiamiGrad :
said by notonespecial:

I just got FIOS and they offered me the TV service too for $45. I'm in great neck.

I refused ... for now.:D
That's news to me considering no franchise agreement has been signed here in Great Neck. So they offered you TV service and gave you a channel list of all the programming to be offered? :uhh: ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13744465 Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:51:24 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13743722 TurtleFan : That's great news that they may already be testing it in NJ.....But here's the next question. Who would we contact to find out for sure?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13743722 Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:25:21 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13743649 swamechanic : Thats funny because I talked to a Verizon encore person 3 days ago she told me they are testing the video service in Keller,Texas which was the first city in the US to get FIOS and she siad that Keller was going to be the first city to get the video service also which should be in the next couple months.

She also went to get her supervisor because she had been to some seminar about the video service but her supervisor was out so she told me to call back the next day and she would have more info on the pricing plans but I was to lazy and busy to call.

The person I talked to was here in the Dallas/Fortworth area. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13743649 Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:12:49 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13743469 anon : I just got FIOS and they offered me the TV service too for $45. I'm in great neck.

I refused ... for now.:D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13743469 Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:36:36 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13738468 TurtleFan : OK, here's what I just found out...

I talked to a nice lady on the phone who immediatly went to her supervisor for more info. Right now, the only place the TV Service is being tested in is Virginia, and she said that it was probably accurate information that NJ would begin seeing it pop up in August or September, as stated on this site.

But she also says that unfortunatly, they have a process for selecting test people and this isn't something the average citizen can sign up for. However, People with FIOS already, probably will be contacted first about it.

If anyone else manages to get lucky and finds a local supervisor with more info, feel free to post it :)..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13738468 Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:13:42 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13731067 anon : So far, all that has been said is that Verizon will use a custom version of Foundation: »www.microsoft.com/tv/content/Sol···ain.mspx]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13731067 Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:57:04 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13730681 HaloBox : I guess it isn't really conclusive in »newscenter.verizon.com/proactive···id=89058

Looks like Microsoft has two TV solutions. Oh well, as long as it works is all that matters to me. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13730681 Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:13:39 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13730471 peterl1365 :
said by HaloBox See Profile:

»www.microsoft.com/tv/content/Sol···iew.mspx should give you an idea what's coming. See the datasheet link at the bottom for some screenshots. I don't know how much Verizon is customizing things, but if thats the platform they are rolling out, it should be pretty similar.
Except it's been noted that Fios TV will not be IPTV.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13730471 Thu, 23 Jun 2005 17:46:50 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13729762 HaloBox : »www.microsoft.com/tv/content/Sol···iew.mspx should give you an idea what's coming. See the datasheet link at the bottom for some screenshots. I don't know how much Verizon is customizing things, but if thats the platform they are rolling out, it should be pretty similar.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13729762 Thu, 23 Jun 2005 16:15:13 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13729276 jschramm03 : I am actually looking forward to the MSDVR. UltimateTV (MS DVR for Directv) was great. Mine died and they dont sell it anymore so I had to switch to Tivo. But it really was a great product, it had a bunch of features that I liked better then Tivo. It was FAR better then any cable company DVR I have seen.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13729276 Thu, 23 Jun 2005 15:21:46 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13721588 NOCMan : Hey with enough PC's running I can leave the heat off in the winter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13721588 Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:57:57 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13719835 HaloBox :
said by NOCMan See Profile:

Now only if they would license Tivo to run on top of the MSDVR crap and I'd be happy. Though for the ability to record 6 channels at once I'd jump for it..

Hopefully the dvr has the ability to access NFS or a SAN so people can ramp up recording space beyond it's hard drive limits. Otherwise having the ability to record 6 channels at once for a large family will be moot.
LOL. I got a kick out of that one. I keep envisioning homes with a mini data center right in the middle of the house... :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13719835 Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:33:53 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13719788 HaloBox :
said by Woof Woof See Profile:

The installers here in Keller are using 3 different Motorola boxes. A basic box, a standard def DVR and a hidef DVR. He apparently didn't have one on the truck, or know the model numbers off the top of his head.

I can't remember how he described the HD one, something like "Then there is the kick ass one that will do everything including scratch your ass."
Have we mentioned you Keller, Texas weenies suck recently? :) Southlake, Texas has to wait until September... again :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13719788 Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:28:45 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13718554 TurtleFan : Has anyone heard a confirmed date for the test services to start in NJ? Or how we can sign up for it?

I've heard anywhere from July to September.

I found a number to call but I havn't tried it yet to find out more... Either

Verizon Communications
Corporate Headquarters
1095 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10036

Telephone: 800-621-9900

or

Verizon New Media Services
One Verizon Place
West Airfield Drive
P.O. Box 619810
D/FW Airport, TX 75261-9810

Telephone: 972-453-7000

Wasn't sure wich was the proper number for a NJ inquiry..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13718554 Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:34:41 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13608437 Woof Woof : The installers here in Keller are using 3 different Motorola boxes. A basic box, a standard def DVR and a hidef DVR. He apparently didn't have one on the truck, or know the model numbers off the top of his head.

I can't remember how he described the HD one, something like "Then there is the kick ass one that will do everything including scratch your ass."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13608437 Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:25:31 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13602636 zoom314 : For Me It would have to cost less than $43.38 per month, As that is what Dish Network charges Me for the Americas Top 120 package per month.:D
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im not sure which channels where "digital". i only heard recently that some digital cable companies aren't 100% digital. acctualy i think i heard that on a direct tv commertial? :) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13601213 Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:51:06 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13601075 GeekNJ : Cablevision has a set-top-box DVR and the recording quality is excellent. They even have a HD version. With it built into the set-top box, like the DirecTivo, I think the quality is much better then trying to integrate a stand-alone unit.

If/when Tivo comes out with a cablecard unit, they might be able to achieve the same quality as the integrated units.
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said by Zodiacal See Profile:

i tried adelphia's DVR for a few months. i liked the idea of being able to record two shows and watch another recorded one at the same time, BUT, the quality of the recordings was horable, it looked worse than regular digital cable on my stand alone Tivo. i guess they had to compress the hell out of it to get it to record two shows at once? i switched back to just a standard digital cable box and my tivo. plus the adelphia dvr woudn't let you permantly save shows. it was very anoying. it was a moxi operating system. i will think hard and long before i switch from my tivo, but yet i will have to some day because mine can't do HD.
Interesting point. If the Fios TV signal is all-digital (which I believe is the case) then I'm hoping that the DVR will record the digital stream directly, like the DirecTV Tivos do. I'm guessing that the moxi DVR from Adelphia was a hybrid, since Adelphia probably had a lot of their "basic cable" channels still on their analog tier. Anytime a DVR needs to encode an analog signal, like standalone Tivos, then the picture quality will suffer.

How was the recording quality on your "digital" channels?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13600907 Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:07:58 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13599996 Zodiacal : i tried adelphia's DVR for a few months. i liked the idea of being able to record two shows and watch another recorded one at the same time, BUT, the quality of the recordings was horable, it looked worse than regular digital cable on my stand alone Tivo. i guess they had to compress the hell out of it to get it to record two shows at once? i switched back to just a standard digital cable box and my tivo. plus the adelphia dvr woudn't let you permantly save shows. it was very anoying. it was a moxi operating system. i will think hard and long before i switch from my tivo, but yet i will have to some day because mine can't do HD.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13599996 Tue, 07 Jun 2005 15:21:24 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13595767 anon : The CES thing was a SBC demo. SBC is finding that MS IPTV currently doesn't scale very well, requiring 1 server per 10 customers. MS IPTV has a long ways to go yet before it's ready for prime time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13595767 Tue, 07 Jun 2005 01:50:36 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13594711 NOCMan : Yeah what is the storage on these things, and their abilities. Can they record 6 HD shows at once if you wanted to do that or can it record 5 SD and 1 HD. The ability to record 6 channels will probably have it's limit.

Really after the CES demo it seems were not getting what MicroSoft was bragging about.

Why the DVR, just have one master DVR where everyone can just dial up any program that has played when they want to see it. Network schedules are so 60's.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13594711 Mon, 06 Jun 2005 21:14:59 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13594510 neutronic : I think not... VOOM is (er was) a Cablevision company. NO WAY they would license content to Verizon when they're about to EAT THEIR LUNCH all over Long Island! Man, I can't wait! :-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13594510 Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:53:40 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13590415 anon : Where are they getting that HD content from...VOOM? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13590415 Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:45:56 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13588892 GeekNJ :
said by GernBlanston See Profile:

Why on earth wouldn't you be able to daisy chain the TiVO right in line, with no loss in functionality?
Are you talking about a standard stand alone Tivo? They don't work well with set top boxes as the set-top box only outputs 1 channel so how would you, for example, watch something and record something else?
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We're still on a Comcast analog plan that works great with our Tivo. The plan is around $50 a month with tax.

If Verizon's least expensive plan isn't close to that and doesn't include a DVR, we'll probably stick with Comcast. We'd probably re-evaluate that decision once we have a HDTV, but that won't be for another year or so.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13587143 Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:55:47 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13586838 GernBlanston : Why on earth wouldn't you be able to daisy chain the TiVO right in line, with no loss in functionality?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13586838 Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:08:47 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13585185 ablack6596 : I really want to be able to stream video from DVRs. DirecTV is so annoying, turning it off on their Tivos. I'll probably wait and make sure that the MS DVRs aren't crappy, but that looks pretty good. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13585185 Sun, 05 Jun 2005 20:28:01 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13582418 NOCMan : Now only if they would license Tivo to run on top of the MSDVR crap and I'd be happy. Though for the ability to record 6 channels at once I'd jump for it..

Hopefully the dvr has the ability to access NFS or a SAN so people can ramp up recording space beyond it's hard drive limits. Otherwise having the ability to record 6 channels at once for a large family will be moot.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13582418 Sun, 05 Jun 2005 13:24:32 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13582268 Jeffrey : Ahh Ok, that makes some more sense.
Thanks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13582268 Sun, 05 Jun 2005 12:59:53 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13582153 TurtleFan : 300 Channels? Gameshow Network BETTER be listed as one of them, and I'll switch ASAP :)

I really hope it's at the $50 price tag or under. T hat's already 15$'s cheaper than cable.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13582153 Sun, 05 Jun 2005 12:41:00 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13581953 JohnA : Look in the ONT just below the phone jacks, there's an F connector for RG6.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13581953 Sun, 05 Jun 2005 12:08:28 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13581901 Jeffrey : May be I'm coming in late in the game here, but how will the set top boxes connect to my Fios hardware already installed in my garage? RG6? Cat5? I'm just wondering if I'll have to lay some more Cat5 cables or switches, or if we can use the existing cable that is hooked up to the TVs now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13581901 Sun, 05 Jun 2005 11:58:13 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13580920 Jobronie :
said by UofMiamiGrad See Profile:

I assume it all depends on getting franchise agreements signed in time, otherwise the plans to launch Sept 1st around here will be delayed. Hope to hear some franchise agreements sometime in the next two months. Sounds promising though, thank you for the information!:D
Are franchise agreements needed even for test markets? Maybe that's why they're test markets: to see how the video runs and to guage consumer/boro reaction.

Reason I ask is because about 10 days ago I ran into the north Jersey Fios Hummer guy at our library. Asked him about video: he asked if I lived in town, I told him yeah, he siad about two months. Two months??? He listed a number of towns for the Closter and Wykoff COs that are gonna be used as test markets. I asked about the franchise agreements and progress in Trenton; he said something like: I don't know where that is, all they keep telling me is test market video in two months.

OP: any idea how you got selected for the focus group? Was it thru Fios directly, or did a a research firm pick your name-out-of-a-hat....?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13580920 Sun, 05 Jun 2005 07:29:19 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13580492 LLivingLarge : Jesus Christ... The Roslyn CO isn't even live yet and they are already promising FIOS TV to us?
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said by neutronic See Profile:

I was lucky enought to participate in a Verizon FiOS TV marketing focus group earlier this week in Carle Place, Long Island. Here's what I found out:

1. Verizon will be launching FiOS TV to certain towns in Western Nassau including Great Neck, Manhasset, Port Washington and Roslyn (there may be others) on Sept. 1st.

2. The service will offer 300 channels with 18 sports channels, 3X the number of HD channels that Cablevision currently offers, 1,800 on-demand programs and all of the standard local channels (except stuff like News12 and NY1).

3. They will offer a DVR box that can record up to SIX programs simultaneously and stream video from one room to another if you have multiple DVR boxes.

4. Supposedly, it will be cheaper than cable, but there was NO other info about possible pricing.

That's what I know right now. Hope this helps!
I assume it all depends on getting franchise agreements signed in time, otherwise the plans to launch Sept 1st around here will be delayed. Hope to hear some franchise agreements sometime in the next two months. Sounds promising though, thank you for the information!:D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13580407 Sun, 05 Jun 2005 02:22:04 EDT Re: FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13580231 Tzale : Awesome!

I'm switching all my services (Voice, Data, Video) to FIOS as soon as it becomes available.

Fios to me is the BEST deal on the block from what I am seeing. I really like how they are going to have 3X the HD Cablevision has! CV has 17 HD channels I believe so that would be 51 HD channels! WOW! Damn, I'd be happy if they even gave me 30 HD! And for less money per month, how can you go wrong?

-Tzale]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13580231 Sun, 05 Jun 2005 01:45:52 EDT FiOS TV Features Update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13580131 neutronic : I was lucky enought to participate in a Verizon FiOS TV marketing focus group earlier this week in Carle Place, Long Island. Here's what I found out:

1. Verizon will be launching FiOS TV to certain towns in Western Nassau including Great Neck, Manhasset, Port Washington and Roslyn (there may be others) on Sept. 1st.

2. The service will offer 300 channels with 18 sports channels, 3X the number of HD channels that Cablevision currently offers, 1,800 on-demand programs and all of the standard local channels (except stuff like News12 and NY1).

3. They will offer a DVR box that can record up to SIX programs simultaneously and stream video from one room to another if you have multiple DVR boxes.

4. Supposedly, it will be cheaper than cable, but there was NO other info about possible pricing.

That's what I know right now. Hope this helps!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13580131 Sun, 05 Jun 2005 01:28:57 EDT