Re: Can anyone still use eMule with Keyon wireles in Wireless Users Chat http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r13603874 en Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:27:22 EDT Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:27:22 EDT Re: Can anyone still use eMule with Keyon wireles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13603874 superdog :
said by Aym See Profile:

Well, I found a way to get around it for now. So I'll keep using Keyon for a while. :D It's true that P2P will always be blocked, but newer P2P technology will always overcome it.
I do understand why You wany to use PtP and I have no problem with that. You are the one that is responsible for the content that is being shared. If You are doing something illegal?, I guess You can go to confession on Sunday and clear Your conscience?:D . The battle with ISP's(Not just WISP's) and end users over PtP applications will never end. Port blockers are worthless these days, as some of the adaptive PtP applications will just move over to port 80, and then stuff really goes crazy. That doesn't happen on our network, as we use packet technology that "sees" (for lack of better terms) what type of data is using the network and it sees that the same IP's and ports are getting hit with the same data and strings. I am not our linux guru, I am just repeating what my Sys. Admin. has told me?. I guess we will see what happens in the long run?
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»www.wavecrazy.net Join WISPA today! »www.wispa.org/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13603874 Tue, 07 Jun 2005 22:47:30 EDT Re: Can anyone still use eMule with Keyon wireles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13537795 John Galt :
said by Aym See Profile:

Well, I found a way to get around it for now. So I'll keep using Keyon for a while. :D It's true that P2P will always be blocked, but newer P2P technology will always overcome it.
Legal issues aside...the main issue with P2P is that it hogs bandwidth. This is a problem for the WISP.

The newer technologies are very much more capable than simple "port blockers". These technologies are adaptive...and change as they need to to control the traffic.
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A is A]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13537795 Tue, 31 May 2005 02:48:06 EDT Re: Can anyone still use eMule with Keyon wireles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13516628 Aym : Well, I found a way to get around it for now. So I'll keep using Keyon for a while. :D It's true that P2P will always be blocked, but newer P2P technology will always overcome it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13516628 Sat, 28 May 2005 04:52:48 EDT Re: Can anyone still use eMule with Keyon wireles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13454147 John Galt :
said by Aym See Profile:

Hopefully the other 2 ISP in my area won't start doing that. :(
P2P will always be blocked, or, at the very least, severely throttled.

The problem is that applications like that take as much bandwidth as they can get. That kills the system for all the other users.
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A is A]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13454147 Fri, 20 May 2005 13:32:52 EDT Re: Can anyone still use eMule with Keyon wireles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13444044 Aym : Hopefully the other 2 ISP in my area won't start doing that. :(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13444044 Thu, 19 May 2005 08:34:21 EDT Re: Can anyone still use eMule with Keyon wireles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13440941 superdog :
said by Aym See Profile:

To superdog1: to my knowledge, no ISP has been sued in by the RIAA in the P2P file sharing cases. I think this has to do with limiting bandwidth cost more than anything.
I will agree with You that part of it is the bandwidth it eats up. While no ISP's have been sued Yet, There have been rumblings that we could be sued for not blocking traffic we know to be illegal in nature. Who knows WHAT the RIAA will do next?.
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»www.wavecrazy.net Join WISPA today! »www.wispa.org/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13440941 Wed, 18 May 2005 20:25:57 EDT Re: Can anyone still use eMule with Keyon wireles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13417650 Aym : To LV man: Ok, thanks for the heads up, looks like I need to go back to Cox. Good thing my contract is up. But man, I wasted $200 for the installation. Looks like unless eMule adapt a system similar to BT where the data are harder to block, it's a goner. :(

To superdog1: to my knowledge, no ISP has been sued in by the RIAA in the P2P file sharing cases. I think this has to do with limiting bandwidth cost more than anything. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13417650 Mon, 16 May 2005 03:30:22 EDT Re: Can anyone still use eMule with Keyon wireles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13402762 superdog :
said by Aym See Profile:

I started to have some problems with eMule a few weeks ago, I thought it's just eMule's problem, but now after reading this post on the eMule official forum, I think Keyon is blocking eMule's traffic.
They probably are, as 95% of Emules traffic is illegal file trading and copyright infringements. It has nothing to do with blocking "power users", but everything to do with lawsuits and the RIAA. While I have no stand on what is "right or wrong" as far as the moral standpoint is concerned, I do understand why a lot of providers are blocking these ports and services, as we simply can NOT afford to defend our subscribers if we are served with papers. While this is unfortunate, it is reality.:)
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»www.wavecrazy.net Join WISPA today! »www.wispa.org/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13402762 Fri, 13 May 2005 21:14:49 EDT Re: Can anyone still use eMule with Keyon wireles http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13402641 anon : No, KeyOn 'upgraded' their CPE's. You cannot access them anymore. From the looks of it, they installed a IDS system in conjunction with a system that blocks all incoming server traffic.. how they do this.. I have no idea. I tried to run a small server from different random range of ports and nothing can connect anymore. Keyon is targeting people that just want internet.. not for power users. I'm also going back to Cox!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13402641 Fri, 13 May 2005 20:56:29 EDT Can anyone still use eMule with Keyon wireless? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13388692 Aym : I started to have some problems with eMule a few weeks ago, I thought it's just eMule's problem, but now after reading this post on the eMule official forum, I think Keyon is blocking eMule's traffic. I can connect to eMule, but not download or upload. Does anyone here use Keyon? Any similar problems? I've also noticed my BT downloads are much slower (but still acceptable). If it's not just me then I'm going back to Cox. (My 1 year contract is up)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,13388692 Thu, 12 May 2005 03:29:07 EDT