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Defcon888
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Adware and Spyware

The only way to not get infected is to make sure the users don't install unknown junk and keep their systems updated. Computer users should learn computer security before they are even allowed on a comp... bleh
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guitarzan
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join:2004-05-04
Skytop, PA

said by Defcon888:

The only way to not get infected is to make sure the users don't install unknown junk and keep their systems updated.
I agree,however we know that will never happen.Not when users,think thats so cute it will talk to me.hmmm I got email wonder who it's from,LETS open it to see.! Sometimes experts here get infected,caused by a release of new malicious code,not encountered before.
said by Defcon888:

Computer users should learn computer security before they are even allowed on a comp... bleh
I think first time PC users when purchasing a PC from (Insert brand here). Should include a free 1 hour lesson
stressing the dangers involved in having unprotected hex,on the web.Hell when I bought my first computer years ago.From a mom and pop shop.A free one hour lesson was given on how to user the features of the OS.Times have changed since then.
Mabe try this.? the store that is selling the PC.Set up a demo PC
for first time buyers who haven't been on the web yet,before the buyer takes the PC out the door.This part would be good.
Have no Av or firewall on it.When in fact it's not actually connected to the web.Sales person says open the browser,
and type in www.whatever.com then say wow hey,..etc were on the web.!!
Sales Person:This is cool,oh look I see we got email.!I wonder who it's from,Go ahead and open it.
PC USER: OK This is exciting.!
Then once opened.Pre-programed software.Causes the monitor
to go black with a rolling message in big letters.You have just opened email from some one you do not know.

Now you have a virus,trojan on your PC
as a result of doing so.Make it seem bad.!Then the
screen returns to normal...for say 30 seconds
Sales person:Lets try to continue.
At this point the software.Once the mouse is moved.
will no longer be under the users controll.

Sales person:Calmly instruct user.Lets try something else.

Buyer: I can't the mouse is moving on its own.
Sales Person: let go of the mouse.

The mouse opens my computer icon.open some folders.
until it finds: the named finicial records deletes it.
then open the one called user Identity.Does the same.
At this point.Another screen comes up.Saying this is ONLY a demonstration of what can and will happen.If you do not properly secure your PC.With a firewall and Anti Virus program that must be updated or checked for updates daily.

Sales person: Shows the person that they were not connected to the web in the first place...nah forget it



Ryven

join:2003-11-26
Portland, OR

reply to Defcon888
it's not always poor computing skills/lack of knowledge that causes the spread of these infinitely irritating programs. Sometimes it is a pop-up from a website that launches something that gets into your computer through your internet cache folder. Sometimes you are trying to find something that turned out to be quite the opposite of your intention & you end up with a lovely melting hard drive, so to speak. Even good computer users get stuck with these things. My complaint is that there should be some kind of mandate that would make them easier to remove. It shouldn't require special software to uninstall this crap, & the fact that it does, in my book, makes it a malicious program with no good intent, period.



Defcon888
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join:2003-07-22
San Bruno, CA
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·AT&T U-Verse
·San Bruno Munici..
·AT&T Yahoo

I still beleive user knowledge = prevention of infection.

I'm just an average computer user and I'm not paranoid with too many security programs either. Never been infected before.

Basic AV: Norton or Kaspersky.
Basic Firewall: Norton or Kerio.
Basic Antispyware: AdAware and Spybot (some have Microsoft Antispyware)
Basic Knowledge: Don't open anything you didn't choose to download yourself = trust nothing

And of course, stay up to date, and use a browser that is safe or a browser that has been locked down/secured.
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