 cptmilesPremium join:2004-04-22 Swayzee, IN | Like Satellite TV! What they are preparing you for is to be charged for every TV like Satellite TV. IPTV will need a set top box at every television just like satellite, and not only that, you may have to rewire your house with CAT5 to be able to get it everywhere you want.
There are some set tops that can control up to 3 TVs, but I don't think Verizon is looking in that direction. Thus, your $49 per month for basic turns into a $69 if you want it on 3 or 4 TVs.
Also, since everything is basically over a high speed connection, you may only be able to watch 2 TVs in your home with HD since HD takes up about 20M.
As far as apartments go, I can't wait to see what Verizon's play will be on that. That will be a wiring nightmare.
Is the general public willing to do this? |
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Is Fios using IPTV to the tv? They could just use the built in coaxial connection a lot of hybrid fiber boxes have and go from there.
Bandwidth is no concern for the FIOS network as currently planned. |
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 xirianPremium join:2003-01-26 Beacon, NY kudos:1 | reply to cptmiles said by cptmiles:Also, since everything is basically over a high speed connection, you may only be able to watch 2 TVs in your home with HD since HD takes up about 20M. They are sending the tv over a whole different color on the fiber (if im getting the phrasing correct). It is NOT iptv. It will be less compressed than catv and definitly wont be limited to 2 tvs per home, since the dvr is speculated to have 6 tuners. |
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 DMS1 join:2005-04-06 Carrollton, TX | reply to cptmiles One would hope that Verizon have plans to migrate to IPTV as the technology matures. If they up the bandwidth per customer to ~78Mbps, either by only using eight ONTs per OLT, or by moving to E-PON, then with MPEG4 they can get five or six HD channels plus 30Mbps data per customer, which should satisfy most people. I would have thought that at this point they would also implement server-side PVR so that no one needs more than one channel per actual TV (or VCR or DVD recorder).
However, when doing this they need to develop a system to perform IP to RF conversion at the ONT so that existing coax wiring can be used. Making people rewire with Cat 5 would be just too much for many. |
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 cptmilesPremium join:2004-04-22 Swayzee, IN | I agree that MPEG4 will be the lifesaver that IPTV is looking for.
As for using the current coax inside wiring goes, there are a few "dongle" type solutions that can turn a coax into an ethernet connection, but that solution is sometimes as costly as running a whole new CATV5. This is one reason why Verizon will be staying away from MDUs. There is just no good, inexpensive soltution...yet. |
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 mishaqPremium join:2004-01-24 Richardson, TX | reply to DMS1 FiOS uses CATV emulation over fiber, so it's the same concept as a coax, you can tune as many TVs as you want, to whatever channels you want. It is not IPTV. -- Damn you FCC! |
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 DMS1 join:2005-04-06 Carrollton, TX | said by mishaq:FiOS uses CATV emulation over fiber, so it's the same concept as a coax, you can tune as many TVs as you want, to whatever channels you want. It is not IPTV. I'm aware of that. What I was saying is that I hope they migrate to an IPTV solution as the technology matures, otherwise they will be left with something that is no better than satellite. |
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| reply to cptmiles said by cptmiles:What they are preparing you for is to be charged for every TV like Satellite TV. IPTV will need a set top box at every television just like satellite, and not only that, you may have to rewire your house with CAT5 to be able to get it everywhere you want. There are some set tops that can control up to 3 TVs, but I don't think Verizon is looking in that direction. Thus, your $49 per month for basic turns into a $69 if you want it on 3 or 4 TVs. Also, since everything is basically over a high speed connection, you may only be able to watch 2 TVs in your home with HD since HD takes up about 20M. As far as apartments go, I can't wait to see what Verizon's play will be on that. That will be a wiring nightmare. Is the general public willing to do this? 1) they are not charging per tv , unless you want extra content like ppv and VoD. And that is still up in the air at the moment since VoD needs a high capacity server bank at each area.
2) It's not IPtv it's called Multicast technology and has been around on the cable co arena for years. It emulates the typical HFC network. So you have no worries about your tv crapping out your internet connection.
3) No need to rewire with cat 5 or cat6 or anything other then good ole rg6 and rg59 that you already have if you have cable. Sorry it's just not iptv.
4) From verizons numbers the the apartment house complexes are not a wiring nightmare at all. It hooks directly into your service now and replaces it. Except for the one cat 5 wire which they will run. But with some of the neater technology available to them expect to see that data pipe piggy backing on your phone line , using dsl like technology.
5) General public is more then willing. They are growing fios at a stable rate and when the tv portion is complete a lot more people will jump ship for Fios. -- "It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" |
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