| Desperation? Seems like it. If theres only 38mbps between 100 users, how can Cox offer 15mbps to everyone? Smells like a stall tactic. |
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| said by tbaker397:Seems like it. If theres only 38mbps between 100 users, how can Cox offer 15mbps to everyone? Smells like a stall tactic. ALL providers oversell their bandwidth. They always have.
Do you think Verizon has enough Internet bandwidth to cover all of its 15 and 30meg customers?
If providers didn't oversell bandwidth, your connection wouldn't be cheap.
Find me a provider that has a 1:1 Internet bandwidth to customer bandwidth ratio. Heck, there probably isn't a provider that has a 1:1 ratio on their own backbone, it would be economic suicide. |
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 Jerm
join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA
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Finally... The news guy gets it correct... last time the 15mbps Cox article was put up I posted mbps/user dillemma and got flamed for it.
see:
»Race is already WON
Nodes *can* have more capcacity, but most systems currently do not.
My favorite part:
Verizon FIOS on the other hand currently has 622mbps for up to 32 houses with their current BPON fiber technology. In a year they are slated to switch to GPON which has 2.4 Gbps downstream, 1.2 Gbps upstream, to each cluster of up to 32 homes. |
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| reply to tbaker397
Re: Desperation? It seems fishy to me... they can give 15mbit service to SOME people who croan about going to verizon... an then they have to cheat people who should be getting 5-6mbit to 3.8?? I'd switch to Verizon and tell them to go to hell, get directv or dish network! Screw 'EM! Its your money! And make sure 100 of your closest friends switch also, and 100 of their friends, etc! |
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bibbit
join:2004-02-28
Cumberland, RI | reply to tbaker397
Just got off the phone with a Cox tech and was told they are rewiring areas like mine (in RI) and that the entire state will have 15mbps service by end of summer. Some parts of the state already have it available. It's about $15 a month more. I was also told that people with 5mbps service would be bumped to 2mbps upload without any notice or added cost once the upgrade is completed. The 15mbps service will also be 2mpbs upload. |
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| reply to peterpauljohn
the math on that is 38/100=.38....not 3.8, it's worse than you think. the pain here is, people are arguing hype/marketing vs. actual bandwidth per user at any given time. Until DOCSIS 3, Cox cannot handle the promise of the hype, they can barely handle upgrading their DNS without hosing a couple thousand people for 15 mins or more. |
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| reply to smcallah
yes verizon does have enough bandwidth to offer 15 mbs to 30 mbs, fios is a dedicated fiber line, bandwidth over fiber is almost unstoppable, the only things that keep fiber speeds low is the hardware at the sending and receiving end. then with encryption and compression verizon could maintain these speeds across their whole network. not only that but they have stated if your speeds drop below 14. something for the 15mb tier they will send a tech to your home to fix it |
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| I don't think you understand what is meant by "Internet bandwidth."
Verizon just can't magically make Internet bandwidth by running fiber. Their Internet bandwidth has nothing to do with FIOS installs.
Verizon must peer with major providers, they must keep these external circuits big enough to support the users behind them. The Internet doesn't just magically come to them, they have a backbone that must be maintained that has nothing to do with FIOS specifically.
And FIOS is not a dedicated fiber line, you're not connected directly to the Internet with all bandwidth dedicated to you. It's a 622mbit circuit that is shared between 32 homes they say. Reasonable, but NOT dedicated.
I'd love to see a Verizon tech come to my house and fix a drop in available bandwidth FROM my house, that would be a sight to see.
Encryption and compression have NOTHING to do with maintaining speeds. Encryption and compression require TIME and COMPUTING power to DECRYPT and UNCOMPRESS the data. How exactly would that keep speeds up? No major provider encrypts and compresses customer traffic, unless someone is paying for that special service. But most do it for themselves, out of security concerns. |
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