| It takes GOOGLE to bring ACCESS BPL to the limelight !!!!!
What Google, Goldman Sachs and Haerst know that everyone here doesn`t know and just making assumptions is a wrong concept. Innovations is always hard for those tunnel-visioned people afraid of change and new ideas !!!!
Since the BROADBAND BPL rollout is there any plane crashing, colliding and emergency calls being interfered ???? None that i read about or heard in the news.
It`s time to adopt to changes folks. Let Google do their own thing for the good of the majority !!! |
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| What "broadband BPL rollout", exactly? Can you point to any location in the US that is currently commercially deploying BPL to residential customers?
I think that this is just Google pissing away some "petty cash" (for them), on the off-hand chance that it actually could take off, and then they might have some rights to the technology. If anything though, I would have thought that some sort of distributed wireless node-based mesh-networking approach would be the better long-term solution.
Or maybe we should all just use "IP over morse code using smoke signals"? Think that would fly? At least you wouldn't need a constant source of carrier pigeons - "IP over carrier pigeon" (real RFC, btw) ended up being nothing more than a heap of pure crap. (Pun intended.) |
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N3EVL
join:2004-12-13
Shrewsbury, MA | reply to bpl 4 all
said by bpl 4 all:
to the limelight !!!!!
It`s time to adopt to changes folks. Let Google do their own thing for the good of the majority !!!
Adopt [adapt?] to changes...?
This presupposes that the change is valid and justified - it is not.
...Let Google do their own thing...?
Very disappointing that the suits at google have not done their homework and have selected this technology.
...for the good of the majority...?
No. If something is intrinsically bad as is the case with HF BPL then I will not roll over. No doubt you subscribe to the view: "Eat s**t - a million flies can't be wrong!" |
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re: BROADBAND OVER POWERLINE DEPLOYMENT MAP:
»www.uplc.utc.org/file_depot/0-10···ated.pdf
it`s almost all over the country now !!!
Hams should stay away from under the hi-voltage wires so that there will be no High Frequency interference problem.
Simple solution to a simple problem. Hams video on inteference showed a hamster near or under a High Voltage Powerlines then complaint that there`s interference...lol
I think Hamsters are the Innovation Progress Interference !!!!! |
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You must also remember NOT everyone is a ham operator. We are talking a small amount of people . Im sure there will be a fix for it.
But keep in mind, its not only us ham operators that will be affected by this. We are talking about Federal, State, Maritime Mobile, AM Aircraft, and even AM Broadcast. Also, just because everyone is not a ham, does not mean amateur radio is not important. Amateur radio is the ONLY failsafe communication method.
BPL Is Flawed!
BPL Is Evil - »kd5owo.blogspot.com
I am shocked Google invested in BPL... I have always like google, and since I already have my blog there I am not going to move it, unless they ban me for speaking out against them investing in BPL. The way I see it is that the invester was too stupid to realize how flawed BPL is. Or perhaps money was blinding his vision! |
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KB2PSM
join:2002-08-06
Long Beach, NY
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You are so silly...
I refer you to some of the above posts on the issue (you know...the ones based on scientific measurements, facts and those pesky Laws of Physics".
A quick quote from above:
"If folks want to be misguided by the promises of BPL and if the Google suits want to ignore these silly "Laws of Physics", they can simply write a company policy canceling them and ask the public to ignore them by completely denying them at press conferences."
said by bpl 4 all:
to the limelight !!!!!
What Google, Goldman Sachs and Haerst know that everyone here doesn`t know and just making assumptions is a wrong concept. Innovations is always hard for those tunnel-visioned people afraid of change and new ideas !!!!
Since the BROADBAND BPL rollout is there any plane crashing, colliding and emergency calls being interfered ???? None that i read about or heard in the news.
It`s time to adopt to changes folks. Let Google do their own thing for the good of the majority !!!
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KB2PSM
join:2002-08-06
Long Beach, NY
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said by bpl 4 all:
to the limelight !!!!!
Let Google do their own thing for the good of the majority !!!
If you believe that Google is on a human rights march here...to selflessly extend themselves purely for the good of the people (which people btw...you and me or the shareholders?), you know just as much about economics as you do physics and radio wave propagation.
If this was for the "good of the majority", money would be invested in more secure, quicker, more upgradeable, less interference generating/less interference susceptible technologies...like...how about...Fiber Optics, which is still considered by most as the real panacea of broadband delivery.
Finally, it is a scary proposal to assume or believe that because any company wishes (or had) placed $100 million dollars into anything, that everyone should step aside and laud it as being the de-facto solution to anything or the best/only replacement for other options.
If you read beyond the Google press release, you will see that far many more agencies and governments- who invested in this poor Broadband technology, have walked away from it- based on problems including those related to those pesky "Laws of Physics" which don't leave even if ignored.
Shrug...
Rob |
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The .com boom/bust was largely caused by Internet companies believing the laws of business and economics didn't apply to the Internet. Apparently Google believes the laws of physics don't apply to Internet companies. Luckily Google has deep pockets, but this one is going to hurt when they realize what they dumped money into.
If Google really wanted to invest in something consistent with their revolutionary ways and mission, they should have invested in wireless or even microwave-based BPL which has much more bandwidth than HF-based BPL, doesn't interfere with wireless communications, and has mobile applications. It's still very much in development but is truly innovative and would knock HF-based BPL like Current's out of the ring. HF-based BPL investments are no-brainers...people who invest in it have no brains  |
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Hmm, interesting. According to the map that you linked, there already are in fact five commercial deployments of BPL, although there is no indication of whether or not they are residential in nature.
But how can five deployments, in limited local areas, support your assertion that "it's almost all over the country now!!!"?
If anything, you provide a clear example of how BPL proponents either love to exaggerate or are clearly simply delusional. Personally I tend to vote for the latter. |
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Hmm, interesting. According to the map that you linked, there already are in fact five commercial deployments of BPL, although there is no indication of whether or not they are residential in nature.
But how can five deployments, in limited local areas, support your assertion that "it's almost all over the country now!!!"?
If anything, you provide a clear example of how BPL proponents either love to exaggerate or are clearly simply delusional. Personally I tend to vote for the latter.
Many of those dots on the map were companies that considered BPL but haven't built anything.
This page shows what sites are known to be live:
»www.qrpis.org/~k3ng/bpl.html#70 |
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said by bpl is hot topic:
Hams should stay away from under the hi-voltage wires so that there will be no High Frequency interference problem.
Simple solution to a simple problem. Hams video on inteference showed a hamster near or under a High Voltage Powerlines then complaint that there`s interference...lol
I think Hamsters are the Innovation Progress Interference !!!!!
BPL isn't innovative, it's bad engineering. It's the only wired data network that uses frequencies that it can't keep within its own medium. Hams and other HF spectrum users aren't the problem. Wireless spectrum pollution isn't progress. Ask your BPL engineers why they can't keep their signals within their system like cable, DSL, and fiber do. |
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