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GhostDoggy

join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA

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Re: My response to Martin's op-ed

But could Japan, South Korea, and those European countries have done the same thing again if a) they were not subsidized by their governments in some part, and b) have the same geography as the United States.

Its easy to have high market penetration when the majority of your peoples are in small, tight urbanized areas. I wonder how it would look if the federal government offered up a 20% subsidy to each and every private broadband company, and then only looked at the major cities when determining market penetration.


rideboarder
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Snohomish, WA

said by GhostDoggy:

Its easy to have high market penetration when the majority of your peoples are in small, tight urbanized areas. I wonder how it would look if the federal government offered up a 20% subsidy to each and every private broadband company, and then only looked at the major cities when determining market penetration.
That may be true, but it's still no excuse that cities like New York, Los Angeles, Chicago and so forth don't have faster connections.


LegoPower77
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No, it is an excuse because you have to look at the uniformness of the density. For example, NYC is as dense as say, Hong Kong (maybe it is, maybe it isn't, don't feel like looking it up, but for argument's sake, assume so) but if you go some 50 miles outside of NYC, it's rural. On the other hand, I dare say you have few rural areas in Hong Kong or its surrounding area in China, or in say, Korea, either.
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"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." —Ronald Reagan



JakCrow

join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA

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reply to GhostDoggy

said by GhostDoggy:

But could Japan, South Korea, and those European countries have done the same thing again if a) they were not subsidized by their governments in some part, and b) have the same geography as the United States.

Its easy to have high market penetration when the majority of your peoples are in small, tight urbanized areas. I wonder how it would look if the federal government offered up a 20% subsidy to each and every private broadband company, and then only looked at the major cities when determining market penetration.
Doesn't the U.S. market have its share of subsidies? While there isn't specific government monies being thrown at telcoms, tax breaks and deals on multiple levels count for something.

reply to LegoPower77
There are MANY rural areas outside of Hong Kong. I lived in one for a year. China has a far less dense population than the United States in certain areas and has broadband available in many of them. Canada has a similar population makeup to the United States and has broadband far more readily available in rural areas. Geography is no longer a legitimate excuse for America's lag.



rideboarder
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said by LegoPower77:

No, it is an excuse because you have to look at the uniformness of the density. For example, NYC is as dense as say, Hong Kong (maybe it is, maybe it isn't, don't feel like looking it up, but for argument's sake, assume so) but if you go some 50 miles outside of NYC, it's rural. On the other hand, I dare say you have few rural areas in Hong Kong or its surrounding area in China, or in say, Korea, either.
So you are agreeing that NYC is as dense as Hong Kong? Then why isn't NYC seeing the same speeds as Hong Kong? There are no excuses. I'm not talking about rural areas, i'm talking about major cities in the United States that are completely lagging behind!

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