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reply to GhostDoggy

Re: Make an example of him.

ok..

do we lock our doors when we leave the house ?
do we lock our doors when were at home sleeping ?
do we lock our cars when we leave it parked ?
do we lock our cars while driving?
do we have passwords for various accounts and systems ?
do we show ID's when entering a secure area ?
do we show ID's when asked by Law Enforcment ?

you get my point.. all of the above is a measure of security.. so the big question is.. why are we soo ignorant and lazy about secureing our internet connection, furthermore via wireless where you physically cant see the intruder (atleast most of the time)..

I blame this Mainly on the Owner of the AP for not being educated enough on how to secure his own PRIVATE network.. I also Blame the Wardrive for knowingly commiting a crime.. why i believe the Blame is partially on the WarDriver is due to the fact of that anyone who travels with their laptop with particular software to find open AP's and connect to them know more than what their doing for any intent they choose to conceive dureing the access time of the AP.

I very well know what i am doing if i was to go around with my laptop in my car and search for OPEN AP's.. and i find it very hard to believe that anyone who would do that would be soo blind and ignorant to not know it is illegal... IMO..

now if your at hoome and sitting around and your laptop picks up another AP in your MDU (b/c the laptop searches for the best signal strength by default unless specified to connect to 1 network only) then i can say the blame is solely on the OWNER Of the AP..

i live in an APT building where there are 5 Open AP's.. MY wifi AP is turned off b/c i have no need to use it.. my wiried network serves me fine..

however. if my friend comes over with his laptop.. i still dont turn on my AP's Radio card... i let him connect to anyones AP if he chooses too... he does nothing more than web surf or check email..

point is.. if you dont want anybody on your property.. dont allow them.. do not leave the door wide open.. have some form of identification / authentication /authurization.. PERIOD. if you cant provide the means of security due to the lack in knowledge of HOW TO.. then get help.

jdmax

join:2002-06-25
Minneapolis, MN

do we lock our doors when we leave the house ? Because some dirtbag will steal us blind.

do we lock our doors when were at home sleeping ? Because some murderer will come in and kill us.

do we lock our cars when we leave it parked ? Because some car thief will steal it or the equipment inside.

do we lock our cars while driving? Because some lunatic will car jack us.

do we have passwords for various accounts and systems ? Because the morally defunct will steal information or money from us.

do we show ID's when entering a secure area ? Because too many psychos will do harm if given the opportunity.

do we show ID's when asked by Law Enforcement ? Because it's the law.

Once again the brilliance of the pass the responsibility shows itself again. We do all those things because some people will lie, cheat, and steal us blind if we don't. But of course those who support your opinion believe that those people are not at fault for anything.

For the thousandth time. Just because somebody doesn't put a lock on something does not mean that you or anybody else has a open invitation to use it.

While not a perfect analogy it is close enough to get the point across.

If you lose your credit card and somebody picks it up and starts an unauthorized spending spree on it the fault lies with the person who did the criminal activity. There is obviously some responsibility for the safeguarding of a credit card but that is only because the world is full of people who would willingly steal all the funds out of the account as they could get away with.

The above poster says.. "point is... if you don't want anybody on your property... don't allow them... do not leave the door wide open..."

The point is what happened to the people who had enough self respect and decency to stay out of another person's property without the need for locks.


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