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Phil
Rojo Sol
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join:2001-06-11
Camarillo, CA
kudos:2

I hope he's as effective as the anti-drug czar...


JazzJRabbit

join:2003-09-27
Naperville, IL

Oh, he will, he'll bust the small people for a minor violation but will leave the big fish roam free. As usual.


d4man

join:2001-08-24
Youngstown, PA

reply to Phil

Re: I hope he's as effective as the anti-drug czar

Not that I agree with piracy, but do you really think that lost revenue figure is accurate? Some wouldnt use Photoshop or any other high priced app if they had to actually pay for it. Just my .02


Spazmoto
Kill all Bloodsuckers

join:2003-08-22

Absolutely. This number is assuming all people who pirate music and software would buy it otherwise...which they wouldn't.
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"I'm comin' down fast, but I'm miles above you!"



one_bored_si

join:2003-03-10
Montebello, CA

reply to Phil

Re: I hope he's as effective as the anti-drug czar...

I would go on to say that the war on piracy is more futile than the war on drugs. Funny that they care about $250 billion when the government doesn't do a thing about trying to collect unpaid taxes or the coorporate loop holes that are intentionally left open. Just another coorporate interest, but if big business is gonna foot the bill then I don't have any complaints and of course that won't happen. I think there are more pressing matters like border security and controlling immigration, but then again we all know those businesses would not hesitate to replace you for some illegal or legal alien that they could pay minimum or less. Oh well.

vernalex
Premium
join:2000-10-19
Manchester, CT

reply to Spazmoto

And...

Yup. That's not all though. They also assume that X percent of users should have brand Y's product. And since they haven't made the sales then it's been pirated.

250 billion is completely fabricated.

noogoo

join:2005-06-27

reply to Spazmoto

Re: I hope he's as effective as the anti-drug czar

said by Spazmoto:

Absolutely. This number is assuming all people who pirate music and software would buy it otherwise...which they wouldn't.
let's look at the figure for cars stolen for example. isn't the number "assuming all people who [sic]" steal cars "would buy it otherwise...which they [probably] wouldn't"?

it would be nice if people stopped rationalizing that just because they wouldn't buy the software doesn't mean they're doing anything wrong. look at all the trial and freeware/opensource software out there.
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noogoo vs. the copyright law - »noogoo.blogspot.com/

redleaf

join:2000-09-12

unlike pirated software and music, two people can't be driving the same car at the same time.


Deathsadvoca

join:2003-08-20
South Lyon, MI

reply to noogoo
Unlike people who steal cars, people who steal music that they like usually will go out and buy it. unlike when you steal a car, your not going to buy the same car that you stole.

I know that not everyone buys what they download but i would say that most of the people who download a movie or a cd end up buying it if they like it. Some musicians and movies have probablly benifited from this since there works are being scene by people who usually wouldent buy there works.


noogoo

join:2005-06-27

there are ways to hear samples of the music before you buy. like people can test drive a car at the dealers instead of stealing the car.

are you an "ends justify the means" kind of person?
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noogoo vs. the copyright law - »noogoo.blogspot.com/


noogoo

join:2005-06-27

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reply to redleaf
hence, the copyright law. are you for plagiarism and patent infringement too?


Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

reply to Phil
the only way to compair stealing a car and stealing music is if for example i had a really big version of a startrek replicator. i have it make me a BMW 7 series, now did i really commit theft? i didnt goto the dealer and steal a car but i did get a BMW that due to how the device works is a BMW down to the atomic level.

in the socalled "theft" of music using P2P you are replicating the music.
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Orwell1984

@cfl.res.rr

reply to noogoo
It would be nice if just one time someone would attempt to explain why "piracy" is wrong without resorting to weak analogies to actual theft of real property.I am not saying it isn't wrong, only that the analogy does not hold up.That $250 billion figure really does strike me as being incredibly bloated.I also do not see any justification for creating a cabinet level position to address this issue.More like some butt kissing of big business.



Anonymous
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join:2004-06-01
IA
kudos:1
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reply to noogoo

said by noogoo:

hence, the copyright law. are you for plagiarism and patent infringement too?
You can have the original I'll just make myself a copy at my own expense.

No harm done, you did not lose anything and in fact you don't have a clue I'm using one of your products. Because I'm not. It's installed on my computer and therefore it's mine.
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the niTz
Premium
join:2004-07-05
Sahuarita, AZ

reply to Kearnstd
i like ur example

*goes off to build a replicator*



ylen131

join:2000-02-09
Canoga Park, CA

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reply to Phil

Re: I hope he's as effective as the anti-drug czar...

come and get me gl to him but don't see him having much luck

DONKEYKONG01

join:2003-03-21
Metairie, LA

reply to d4man

Re: I hope he's as effective as the anti-drug czar

reply to Phil
Re: I hope he's as effective as the anti-drug czar

Not that I agree with piracy, but do you really think that lost revenue figure is accurate? Some wouldnt use Photoshop or any other high priced app if they had to actually pay for it. Just my .02

only 2cents??? sorry bud i'll just toss it in the trashcan. money imho is pretty worthless if itdoesnt have any use!
fyi, piracy is not stealing it is the right ofthe people do as they please with stuff they bought. it's called pirating because it cost us nothing and benefits everyone! why? we no longer have to pay for thing that are so outrageously priced! so you will work like a dog to afford the things that only the rich can afford!

Enjoy things that are free! why try toenjoy thing sthat cost you and arm and a leg which cost them next to nothing toproduce???

we will never die just like piracy will never die!

we hate paying for antying in life expecisally useless movies that are just meant to make money and not to entertain you. adsf;klajsdf

don tou agree???

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