3 edits | Earthlink reaching for straws if depending on BPL Earthlink must be worried about their future if they are hoping BPL will keep them viable in the future. The days of ISP's that don't have their own infrastructure being a major player are quickly drawing to a close.
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| Don't know. They've also got muni-nets, Wimax, Covad's line-powered voice....I wouldn't close the door just yet. I think they're just looking at BPL as another baby bell end around technology, and they'd be silly to not at least take a brief look.... |
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said by Karl Bode:Don't know. They've also got muni-nets, Wimax, Covad's line-powered voice....I wouldn't close the door just yet. I think they're just looking at BPL as another baby bell end around technology, and they'd be silly to not at least take a brief look.... I agree that they need to try and use BPL as another venue to add subscribers. I just think they are swimming against the tide. Sooner or later they will tire and either sell out or go into bankruptcy.
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| I don't see BPL as anything more than a niche tech, which might not even be worth their while. I would like to see how this Covad Line-powered voice thing and Wimax works out. There's some interesting wireless/discount phone bundles there they could offer if the technologies are solid. |
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| I disagree i dont think BPL isn't a niche tech. People really don't care how they get the net in the home whether it is fiber, coax, DSL or wireless as long as it works and its at a good price. If earthlink can offer this a a competitive price I think they can compete especially since their customer service is light years ahead of all the cable and phone companies. |
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| When it comes to BPL, I say "show me". |
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| Bpl works. Its the ham radio guys that are the hold up. They are the ones complaining. I havnt heard any other bad thing about except that. |
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Re: Earthlink reaching for straws if depending on said by Karl Bode:When it comes to BPL, I say "show me". What? What did you say? Had a hard time hearing you because of the interference. |
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Re: Earthlink reaching for straws if depending on BPL said by hayabusa3303:Bpl works. Its the ham radio guys that are the hold up. They are the ones complaining. I havnt heard any other bad thing about except that. So, in your happy little world, all is fine and dandy if the HF spectrum is tossed in the garbage can. In my world, that is not the case, so excuse me if I reserve the right to complain a bit and point out the deficiencies of at least some of the offending implementations of this sorry excuse for broadband technology. If that "holds things up," then tell the BPL providers to switch to a non-polluting technology that can contain itself withing its delivery medium. I'm sure you'll agree that that's not too much to ask since we already demand it of cable and DSL.
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Re: Earthlink reaching for straws if depending on I sure hope there will always be 'third-parties' providing such services. I really think having broadband, indeed all telecom services (classified as such or not), settling in the hands of only the local ILEC and Cable company is a Bad Idea.
If BPL can overcome the various problems and be a viable solution, hopefully the Electric Companies will be a bit more reasonable when it comes to leasing their infrastructure to third-parties.
But, as suggested, what really must happen is wireless must become pervasive and open for companies to provide access over - completely avoiding these privately owned wires. Of course, I think we'll see the Bell/Cable companies buy up all the regulated and powerful frequencies to prevent that from happening.
Actually, what REALLY needs to happen is (I'll say it again) a forced divestiture of infrastructure and services. Barring that, I'd love to see various powerful frequencies licensed to municipalities to do with as they see fit. If one wants to grant their local transmission area to Verizon to manage the local wireless services, great. If another wants to license it to a third-party, great.
The management and licensing of any locality's telecom infrastructure should be managed by that locality, or at least by that state.
Finally, the Earthlink statement comes as little surprise considering their investment in Ambient and the position on the board:
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Re: Earthlink reaching for straws if depending on BPL said by hayabusa3303:Bpl works. Its the ham radio guys that are the hold up. They are the ones complaining. I havnt heard any other bad thing about except that. Ham radio is not the only thing in the way.
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I agree with you if you need the spectrum but, what diffence does it make anymore really?
It all about MONEY and who cares about anything else.
99.9% of the public dont care about it. They want internet.
Big v-8's are a polluting technology does any one care NOPE. |
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Ok tell me then mister know it all then. explain it to me then. |
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said by fAcEtIOUs:Earthlink must be worried about their future if they are hoping BPL will keep them viable in the future. The days of ISP's that don't have their own infrastructure being a major player are quickly drawing to a close. My Web PageJoin Red Room Forum There is a major point I bolded above.
Did anyone learn about the cable fiasco? @Home was the ISP for anyone with a cable modem. When Excite took over, and with the dot com boom, cable companies thought they could make even more money by becoming ISPs themselves. @Home died and now we have Comcast, Adelphia, Charter, RoadRunner, etc. running their own systems. Soon enough, the power companies will look into this and then kick out Earthlink as well. |
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Re: Earthlink reaching for straws if depending on said by hayabusa3303:Bpl works. Its the ham radio guys that are the hold up. They are the ones complaining. I haven't heard any other bad thing about except that. You are attributing power to the amateur radio community they really don't have. I will repeat we are not against this technology if it can be made to work without crapping on everything else in the area fine. But to date BPL is a turd that refuses to die, it pop's up where ever the BPL hucksters can convince a small power company or ignorant city officials this technology is best thing since monetary kick backs, and under the table payoffs. As for not hearing any thing bad about BPL what planet have you been living on.
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Re: Earthlink reaching for straws if depending on BPL said by hayabusa3303:Ok tell me then mister know it all then. explain it to me then. It will also interfere with EMS, Fire & Police! |
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said by hayabusa3303:Ok tell me then mister know it all then. explain it to me then. Boy, if you're going to rip on somebody, you better be sure you're right.
BPL if done poorly will affect Ham, Public Safety, Military and Broadcast bands. Motorola, however, has designed a system that in initial trials doesn't seem to affect those bands much.
That enough explaning, smart guy, or do you need more?
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Re: Earthlink reaching for straws if depending on What good are they (Earthlink) if their tech support is located outside the United States. Furthermore, they are the ones that closed the call centers and laid off over a thousand workers. |
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Re: Earthlink reaching for straws if depending on BPL While Motorola has comeup with a system that doesn't pollute the HF spectrum, it hasn't been used in a test yet. |
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