 | Where are the free ACLU lawyers or EFF lawyers? The ACLU and the EFF have tons of lawyers on staff and as volunteers for all kinds of court cases. They both make a big noise about the **AA abusing people. Why haven't they volunteered to defend these people for free? Really, I'd like to know. Anyone have any theories? -- My Web Page Join Red Room Forum |
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 nixenRockin' the BoxenPremium join:2002-10-04 Alexandria, VA | Re: Where are the free ACLU lawyers or EFF lawyers said by fAcEtIOUs:The ACLU and the EFF have tons of lawyers on staff and as volunteers for all kinds of court cases. They both make a big noise about the **AA abusing people. Why haven't they volunteered to defend these people for free? Really, I'd like to know. Anyone have any theories? Because, even if they did offer to cover all costs - court fees, lawyer fees, time lost from work/lost job due to missed time, etc., they'd have to find someone willing to allow them to help. Frankly, there just aren't a lot of people out there that can afford the time or want the stress associated with going to a full trial.
What I'm waiting for is the RIAA to screw up and send a letter to a retired tort lawyer - particularly if said lawyer never engaged in file sharing. That will be when it gets fun.
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Re: Where are the free ACLU lawyers or EFF lawyers? I think eventually, if this case or one like it, can get a mountain of press, the ACLU and the EFF will step in and offer help, but they will not if A) they are unaware of the individuals situation and B) they can't get a mountain of cheap publicity out of it. However, if the mainstream news media were to pick this case up as a torch, the ACLU would funnel thousands into the trial as a PR move. |
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 Primis1 join:2005-06-13 Coldwater, MI 1 edit | reply to fAcEtIOUs
Re: Where are the free ACLU lawyers or EFF lawyers ACLU doesn't care about you unless you're a minority or your case is really, really weird (read: get them all over the news).
I had an instance where an illegal search was done on my property for a case not involving me. I can't afford an attorney (well, I couldn't at the time anyways). The ACLU wasn't the least bit interested in it though, because I'm young and white and the case wasn't terribly exciting in their eyes, so therefore they weren't interested.
And the EFF doesn't care unless it's something involving either open source or sticking it to a large software company or ISP, because that's all their agenda really is.
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 keith2468Premium,MVM join:2001-02-03 Winnipeg, MB | reply to fAcEtIOUs The ACLU fights high impact human rights cases, and if nobody directly affected by a law cares enough to make a meaningful move, then those affected obviously do not feel the case is high impact.
The first part about being in a competition is knowing you are in a competition.
Otherwise you loose by default.
One possible course of action would be for concerned individuals (those who stand to loose by the banning of free P2P file sharing) is to get the list of people served by the RIAA and contact those that live locally.
Secondly, see if some socially conscious, retired or out-of-work person who has been served is interested lending their name to fighting the RIAA.
If not, make some high profile statements yourself to get the RIAA to charge you.
Either way, the person served by the RIAA can then contact the ACLU asking for help.
Then let us all know the ACLU's response.
It isn't that much effort, the local phone calls are free, and it will end the idle speculation.
If nobody fights the RIAA, the RIAA will have changed regulations by default. -- (Virus&Hijacking FAQ + Submit suspected malware + Backups FAQ + Security FAQ TOC) |
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| reply to Primis1 The ACLU is to busy fighting real cases, like defending the NAMBA..if you know what that is your gonna wish ACLU would die in a fire. I give you hint its about men liking little boys..sickos.
ACLU is pretty retarded organization now, for every good thing they do they do, they do 3 bad things like defend child molesters, etc in court. If the ACLU wanted to defend me i would say no even if it was free all the way.
Anyways, the only mistake RIAA has yet to make is suing a rich person, if they sued a lawyer or rich person they would be dropped like a rock in court. Would it not be ironic if someone sued the RIAA for damages for court costs and made back the very amount the riaa has won so far? lol |
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