FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! in Verizon Fiber Optics

FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! in Verizon Fiber Optics http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r14211280 en Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:37:04 EDT Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:37:04 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14294269 anon : If I lived out there, I'd wire the entire place with video cams... and well... let a bunch of hot ladies live there.... then I could have a really nice place with some even hotter women :) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14294269 Sun, 04 Sep 2005 21:30:09 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14287322 HEMIDART68 :

said by rpsmith

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It's about 900-1000, last I checked (June or July of this year). The place is called "The Springdale Apartments". They have a sign out front, but the whole place is a bit inconspicuous and squashed between a couple other apartment complexes.

Here's the info:

16072 Springdale St, Huntington Beach, CA 92649
Phone: (714) 840-5522

i'm moving in thier next month...can't wait!
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But DUE to the lack of information deficiency in todays marketplace, such DOESNT matter anymore because if epfenning didnt disclose it, I would have as not being a Verizon employee nor having any contractual obligations. All it does is pulls people like Epfenning away from letting the public whats going on and puts it through unofficial channels HOWEVER with the commonplace of digital cameras, such becomes irrelevant because the credibility of the source is not questioned. All it does is pulls away people like epfenning from talking.

The MCI merger is at 8/30/05 - Day 159. Getting closer!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14253096 Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:19:29 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14246859 epfenning : my attorney has advised me to speak no more on this topic...if there are any questions or comments related to verizon's fiber gig...please contact them..maybe with luck; light will be shed in places where it is dark.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14246859 Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:41:09 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14246855 HEMIDART68 : nice! thanks! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14246855 Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:40:42 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14246725 rpsmith : It's about 900-1000, last I checked (June or July of this year). The place is called "The Springdale Apartments". They have a sign out front, but the whole place is a bit inconspicuous and squashed between a couple other apartment complexes.

Here's the info:

16072 Springdale St, Huntington Beach, CA 92649
Phone: (714) 840-5522]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14246725 Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:23:49 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14246413 HEMIDART68 : when you say cheap...like how cheap? do you know the name of the apts? thanks]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14246413 Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:35:37 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14245747 rpsmith :

said by HEMIDART68

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so springdale and enginger...I know of,the lowes,I know where they are at,yeah talbert and beach....eh....
I live off warner and edwards at the casa monterey,what i'm looking to do is move into a 1 bedroom studio that has fiber...is that possible?

Yeah, so like Owenmeany said, the Springdale Apartments are definitely wired up. It's on the northbound side of Springdale, just south of Edinger. I spoke to the guys fibering it a couple months ago. It is not as nice a place as Casa Monterey. Really small, no A/C, a bit dumpier in general. It is pretty cheap though.

The other place across from Lowes on Warner looks really tiny also.

I haven't seen the Talbert/Beach place yet, but I'll be checking it out.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14245747 Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:58:45 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14244571 Vamp : I dont understand what you mean, you say they dont want to run live fiber through an apartment, but yet you are saying they are putting the ONT inside????? WTF?

You need to run fiber through the home if you are putting the ONT inside.
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said by HEMIDART68

Yeah, it possible if any of those have one bedrooms. I dont know if any of those have a studio, I doubt it.

Casa Monterey, are those the ones on the northwest corner. Those are probably nicer than any of the ones mentioned. However they are getting ready to begin a big push to get more complexes wired up. I'll PM you if I hear anything.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14243298 Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:49:28 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14242755 HEMIDART68 : so springdale and enginger...I know of,the lowes,I know where they are at,yeah talbert and beach....eh....
I live off warner and edwards at the casa monterey,what i'm looking to do is move into a 1 bedroom studio that has fiber...is that possible?
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said by HEMIDART68

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Which apt complex's in huntington beach has the fiber?? I am getting ready to move to a apt and would love this!!

Not the nicest ones just yet. But the ones that do are on springdale and edinger, south of edinger, 2nd complex down. Beach and warner, right across the street from the new Lowes and Talbert and Beach, west of Beach. The ones that across the street from the new townhomes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14242560 Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:11:19 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14242381 HEMIDART68 : Which apt complex's in huntington beach has the fiber?? I am getting ready to move to a apt and would love this!!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14242381 Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:48:40 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14240941 north7 : A question-
If Verizon goes ahead and pulls fiber through your building, do they own that fiber?
In the future, will other telcos or ISPs be able to provide service over that fiber like other telcos can provide pots over the building's copper now?
Things to think about... ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14240941 Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:22:13 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14239686 OwenMeany : Well on du-plexes or two family homes, like you've stated they put up two ONTs, and they will probably continue to do so.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14239686 Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:20:50 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14237058 Tzale : Great hopefully this will work with two-family homes too.
I have heard reports of people getting single ONTs installed for each floor, but one MDU would look cleaner than having two ONTs. Not like it matters to me though, I just want the damn service! :D

-Tzale
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said by JTRockville

said by Fagulu :

Um.. yes they will get their fiber too.. but only if they eat their greens :)

Why don't they feed the MDU via Wireless from the Fiber feed?

Example »www.smartbridges.com/products/index.asp
»www.smartbridges.com/css/articles.asp?id=9

I get 34 to 54Mbps with my 802.11G network. The Tiers my be tricky.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14236779 Sun, 28 Aug 2005 00:40:55 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14236513 mantis011 : Contact me at mantis011@comcast.net as I have full web hosting I don't use for crap, 2gb's worth so you could post all your fiber stuff on my server. www.ultragamingconcepts.com

Let me know.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14236513 Sat, 27 Aug 2005 23:53:08 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14225803 AJ023 : "Careful, although it hasn't been acknowledged there's been many hints that VZ has had things they don't want made widely public pulled"

Any Fiber deployment for ANY carrier deploying such is widely public. People will see the fiber being rolled on the streets. There is no information deficiency anymore. If this was the case then Verizon would have to pull everything regarding FIOS period. That wony happen of course and neither will what you said.

You should look at the public maps even of Verizon AND RCN that the Washington Post did which showed each of its covered areas in the DC Metro market.

Nothing epfenning said is not commonly public available information or information that would have been public very soon.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14225803 Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:31:15 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14225488 mpiazza000 : don't worry AJ.. think about it sinced new york has so much apartment building and it is one of the world's top market, they would get it done as soon as possible. Just sinced there wasn't the technology to do so and was held back. but when most of the city's building is beening install with fios, other apartment building will follow. By then whole NYC will be wireed with fios!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14225488 Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:48:26 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14223013 anon : Careful, although it hasn't been acknowledged there's been many hints that VZ has had things they don't want made widely public pulled.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14223013 Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:46:37 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14222584 AJ023 : epfenning: Any news for Queens, NYC MDUs?

Also if a building owner REFUSES to let fiber be installed or makes demands upon Verizon, wouldnt this hinder the building from being able to get FIOS since no VDSL is being planned? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14222584 Thu, 25 Aug 2005 23:32:10 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14220494 pawelp : This sounds great! So it may happen sooner than we have all been suspecting. Thanks for sharing!!!! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14220494 Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:59:35 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14220220 epfenning : Tomorrow, August 26th I will have a full packet which details Word Documented site surveys and Power Point presentations. Thus, are given to managers/owners of apartment complexes to showcase what is all involved in the copper to fiber upgrade.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14220220 Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:22:08 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14215855 epfenning : at the moment VDSL2 is not being implemented...why when there has not been any problems as of yet with full fiber deployment to apartment buildings. switches/fiber terminals go on the outside of apartment complex. fiber terminals come in 6,8,12,24,48 ports..now that i have the correct documentation from the office. pull boxes are buried in ground supporting 4 fiber splices from main Lead Fiber and more in the future. RG6/coaxial is used for TV service...the ONT has support for RG6-TV, POTS/Telephone, and RJ-45jack/Internet. main feed for TV will be jacked into the ONT no need for RG6 for data.
also since we are in Florida, basements do not exist in apartment buildings. therefore, fiber will go into each dwelling..attic preferably then dropped down into each 'wiring-room'.

if anyone has webhosting info then i can showcase a whole fiber package for an apartmnet complex]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14215855 Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:18:37 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14215071 vbox81 : epfenning

I was under the impression that there are no switches anywhere in this PON architecture. Are you referring to Fiber Distribution Hubs which have 4, 6, 8, or 12 ports for subscriber ONTs?

Also, is there any talk in apartment bulidings of doing some that they do in Japan: fiber to the basement, with VDSL or some other copper-based standard to the apartment? With that, the copper loop would be so short that you could provide 100MB symmetrical with the new VDSL2 standard.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14215071 Thu, 25 Aug 2005 01:45:45 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14214051 GernBlanston : What happens when the data is switched over to the RG6? Why bother with all that inside work at that point? Just place an ONT outside and feed all units off one RG6 splitter. STB's are provisioned anyhow, so whats the deal?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14214051 Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:59:46 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14213868 OwenMeany :

said by GRIZZMEISTER

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When I want a honest answer to a question I just ask. So here goes, does any one on this board living in a MDU have Fios yet? My Maryland residence is a brand new apartment in Odenton, MD and Fios isn't being offered here yet. :(

BTW, Verizon is now offering it's DSL services for $15 a month to people that sign a contract. That's a pretty good deal but I think a flat fee of $20 a month(without a contract) would be a more sincere gesture in the eyes of many broadband subscribers. :D

I doubt you'll get a response being that there are only three complexes wired up in the whole nation. But its something that Verizon will start pushing in the manner that was described.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14213868 Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:40:43 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14213796 AJ023 : epfenning: Uhmmmmmm exclusive contracts were struck down by the courts in some areas. Not sure about federal policy yet however. Then you have the exclusivity contracts between buildings and providers.

In NYC, there is NO exclusive rights where I am for the city. We have RCN (Equivalent of Knology), Verizon copper and Time Warner Cable in my MDU. I do not know however if there is an exclusive which can prevent Verizon FIOS from coming in. Its up to the contract the co-op board has signed. By the front of the building I used to see RCN + Time Warner flyers for service. If we have Verizon POTS as well as RCN AND Time Warner, Im wondering if Verizon will be able to come in with FIOS? But if they come in with FIOS, doesnt this deactivate the buildings copper wiring? Or is this in addition to the existing POTS?

I suspected that due to Verizon's overwhelming financials resources that MDUs would come online en mass AFTER the MCI merger is finalized by year end. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14213796 Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:31:11 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14213729 GRIZZMEISTER : When I want a honest answer to a question I just ask. So here goes, does any one on this board living in a MDU have Fios yet? My Maryland residence is a brand new apartment in Odenton, MD and Fios isn't being offered here yet. :(

BTW, Verizon is now offering it's DSL services for $15 a month to people that sign a contract. That's a pretty good deal but I think a flat fee of $20 a month(without a contract) would be a more sincere gesture in the eyes of many broadband subscribers. :D
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said by Fagulu :

Um.. yes they will get their fiber too.. but only if they eat their greens :)

Any suggestions for those of us in Rockville SFHs?

This is really good news. I imagine Verizon has lots of criteria to sort through when deciding what areas to deploy. Hopefully, the decision process just got a bit easier.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14212228 Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:10:32 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14212042 epfenning : anyone in the Verizon demographic will be converted from copper to fiber.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14212042 Wed, 24 Aug 2005 18:44:49 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14211774 anon :

said by nj_apt_resident :

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:(How about folks in apartments in northern new jersey?
:huh::huh:

Will they got some fiber too ;)

Um.. yes they will get their fiber too.. but only if they eat their greens :) ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14211774 Wed, 24 Aug 2005 18:06:21 EDT Re: FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14211547 anon : :uhh:How about folks in apartments in northern new jersey?
:huh::huh:

Will they got some fiber too ;)

Doubt it tho:huh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14211547 Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:37:19 EDT FiOS is being installed in M.D.U.'s ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14211280 epfenning : M.D.U.'s aka Multiple Dwelling Units aka Apartments are on Verizon's major 'To Do List'. I work for a contract company for Verizon that is engineering the fiber layouts in each apartment complex in Tampa, Florida. Each dwelling resident will have an ONT placed inside; preferably a laundry room or closet. However, if a resident is on mulitple story complex then channeling is used to cover up fiber which is pulled down into next/neighbor floor. Apartments being built will not have channeling since fiber will be routed behind the drywall.
There is no need to fear now those who live in apartments. If you live in the Tampa area i can list which complexes are in queue for fiber. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14211280 Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:01:35 EDT