 oliphantI Have 8 BoobiesPremium join:2004-11-26 Corona, CA | Now Verizon... enters the area of Predatory Pricing as Comcrap has. If they can offer it (30Mb @ $55) there, they should have to offer it in all of their FIOS markets. If they "can't", that is Predatory Pricing and illegal. If they "won't", that is Predatory Pricing and illegal. |
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 Admj join:2001-01-17 Placentia, CA | This shows that if there is competition in a market it will drive the prices down. I do agree if they do not offer this in all their markets they are not playing right and should be fined, and forced to offer it all across their networks. |
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 TopmounterSent By Grocery Clerks join:2001-02-20 Evergreen, CO | reply to oliphant I have no problem with adjusting pricing to the local market conditions, but what bothers me is that Verizon appears to be willfully redlining their FIOS deployments and nobody seems to give a sh*t. -- "If PCs are hard, then Macs are flaccid" -bb |
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 oliphantI Have 8 BoobiesPremium join:2004-11-26 Corona, CA 1 edit | As has been shown here time and time again, there is no redlining, especially here in California. Some of our poorest communities are seeing deployment while the richest sit and wait. Same in New Hampshire.
Cutting prices to defeat competition while other markets get higher prices is illegal unless Verizon can show cause (eg higher costs of delivery of the service). |
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 BVT join:2004-10-25 Mount Juliet, TN | NO it is not illegal. It happens everyday all across the country. This could be considered a "sale", "discount" or whatever you want to call it.
Any store that has multiple chains has individual prices in each geographical store. A good example for you Californians would be the Frys chain. They charge different prices for stuff in different geo-locations. |
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 oliphantI Have 8 BoobiesPremium join:2004-11-26 Corona, CA 2 edits | No, it's illegal. What they're doing meets certain criteria making it illegal.
Here is the law... said by Title 15 : TITLE 15 > CHAPTER 1 > § 13
§ 13. Discrimination in price, services, or facilities
Release date: 2004-05-18
(a) Price; selection of customers It shall be unlawful for any person engaged in commerce, in the course of such commerce, either directly or indirectly, to discriminate in price between different purchasers of commodities of like grade and quality, where either or any of the purchases involved in such discrimination are in commerce, where such commodities are sold for use, consumption, or resale within the United States or any Territory thereof or the District of Columbia or any insular possession or other place under the jurisdiction of the United States, and where the effect of such discrimination may be substantially to lessen competition or tend to create a monopoly in any line of commerce, or to injure, destroy, or prevent competition with any person who either grants or knowingly receives the benefit of such discrimination, or with customers of either of them
By selecting a particular market to eliminate a competitor while discriminating (that is not offering the price to others) is Predatory Pricing and illegal. It is illegal to charge different customers different prices for like products unless it can be substantiated that the costs of delivering those products to market is different.
And here in California, all of the Fry's stores have the same prices...so as much as I've seen anyway, especially when it comes to advertisements. |
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| reply to Topmounter said by Topmounter:I have no problem with adjusting pricing to the local market conditions, but what bothers me is that Verizon appears to be willfully redlining their FIOS deployments and nobody seems to give a sh*t. STOP the Redlining $hit already! I'm a lineman for VZ. How about I take you out for a day and show you some of the neighborhoods I've deployed fiber in. The only redline you will see is a "redline" of blood running down your face after I drop you off in one of the hoods. -- "Leave the gun, take the cannolis" |
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 | reply to oliphant Every one else does it so why can't verizon ?
It is a huge joke all together and is never enforced if it was we would not be paying $60 for cable internet. -- "It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!" |
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 | reply to oliphant Wake up and smell what your shoveling... if you think 30/5 for $55 is predatory.. wait until there's FIOS tv, hehehehe
BTW, that was supposed to come out in Sept, 2005 what happened??? I guess they wanted a 3 tier package to match a 3 tier FIOS TV package, dunno if threes are a good or bad sign for cablevision, but we'll soon find out  There are other market 'forces' in satellite tv that will make this more complex as time goes on... hehe |
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 oliphantI Have 8 BoobiesPremium join:2004-11-26 Corona, CA | reply to BosstonesOwn That's the point. NOT everyone does it. |
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