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Topmounter
Sent By Grocery Clerks

join:2001-02-20
Evergreen, CO
reply to oliphant

Re: Now Verizon...

I have no problem with adjusting pricing to the local market conditions, but what bothers me is that Verizon appears to be willfully redlining their FIOS deployments and nobody seems to give a sh*t.
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oliphant
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA

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As has been shown here time and time again, there is no redlining, especially here in California. Some of our poorest communities are seeing deployment while the richest sit and wait. Same in New Hampshire.

Cutting prices to defeat competition while other markets get higher prices is illegal unless Verizon can show cause (eg higher costs of delivery of the service).

BVT

join:2004-10-25
Mount Juliet, TN
NO it is not illegal. It happens everyday all across the country. This could be considered a "sale", "discount" or whatever you want to call it.

Any store that has multiple chains has individual prices in each geographical store. A good example for you Californians would be the Frys chain. They charge different prices for stuff in different geo-locations.


oliphant
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No, it's illegal. What they're doing meets certain criteria making it illegal.

Here is the law...
said by Title 15 :
TITLE 15 > CHAPTER 1 > § 13

§ 13. Discrimination in price, services, or facilities

Release date: 2004-05-18

(a) Price; selection of customers
It shall be unlawful for any person engaged in commerce, in the course of such commerce, either directly or indirectly, to discriminate in price between different purchasers of commodities of like grade and quality, where either or any of the purchases involved in such discrimination are in commerce, where such commodities are sold for use, consumption, or resale within the United States or any Territory thereof or the District of Columbia or any insular possession or other place under the jurisdiction of the United States, and where the effect of such discrimination may be substantially to lessen competition or tend to create a monopoly in any line of commerce, or to injure, destroy, or prevent competition with any person who either grants or knowingly receives the benefit of such discrimination, or with customers of either of them
By selecting a particular market to eliminate a competitor while discriminating (that is not offering the price to others) is Predatory Pricing and illegal. It is illegal to charge different customers different prices for like products unless it can be substantiated that the costs of delivering those products to market is different.

And here in California, all of the Fry's stores have the same prices...so as much as I've seen anyway, especially when it comes to advertisements.


Phoneman63

join:2001-02-22
Hauppauge, NY
reply to Topmounter
said by Topmounter:

I have no problem with adjusting pricing to the local market conditions, but what bothers me is that Verizon appears to be willfully redlining their FIOS deployments and nobody seems to give a sh*t.
STOP the Redlining $hit already! I'm a lineman for VZ. How about I take you out for a day and show you some of the neighborhoods I've deployed fiber in. The only redline you will see is a "redline" of blood running down your face after I drop you off in one of the hoods.
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BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Wakefield, MA
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reply to oliphant
Every one else does it so why can't verizon ?

It is a huge joke all together and is never enforced if it was we would not be paying $60 for cable internet.
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"It's always funny until someone gets hurt......and then it's absolutely friggin' hysterical!"


WakeUp

@ny325.fios.verizon.n
reply to oliphant
Wake up and smell what your shoveling...
if you think 30/5 for $55 is predatory.. wait until there's
FIOS tv, hehehehe

BTW, that was supposed to come out in Sept, 2005
what happened???
I guess they wanted a 3 tier package to match a 3 tier
FIOS TV package, dunno if threes are a good or bad sign
for cablevision, but we'll soon find out
There are other market 'forces' in satellite tv that will make this more complex as time goes on... hehe


oliphant
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Corona, CA
reply to BosstonesOwn
That's the point. NOT everyone does it.