ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update in Security Product Vendors http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r14357811 en Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:32:50 EDT Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:32:50 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14388746 boblandy : well at least the three of us have it figured out
now we'll just have to wait for zonelabs to get the picture
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look out kid they keep it all hid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14388746 Sun, 18 Sep 2005 03:27:59 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14388743 WLiley : Yep, agree.
And add to that, the fact that forcing an update check will increment the timestamp of AV definitions (even when there is nothing new) while not incrementing the AS timestamp - tells me that they have work to do for both.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14388743 Sun, 18 Sep 2005 03:26:08 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14388671 boblandy :
said by TK421 See Profile :

But I think I just found the answer!
i think you did too. we'll watch for it to change with the next release. thanks
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look out kid they keep it all hid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14388671 Sun, 18 Sep 2005 02:46:45 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14388083 TK421 : Anti-spyware signature DAT file version:01.200509.131

And BTW, looking at the signature file version it appears to indicate the release date 2005, 09, 13 ???

I checked the date on my own C:\Windows\System32\ZoneAlarm\spyware.dat file and it is 9/09... don't know how I got it four days early if that really is the numbering scheme.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14388083 Sun, 18 Sep 2005 00:17:31 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14387945 TK421 : Hmmn. Maybe you're right.

But I think I just found the answer! Definition updates should show the version (not just the date) within the control panel but there IS a unique number assigned.

Right-Click the ZA systray icon, then select "About..."

DEF VERSION #
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14387945 Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:51:11 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14387740 boblandy : rather than your idea that ZA releases new defs on friday, i see a pattern developing of tuesday-ish releases...

8/10 ... wednesday
8/23 ... tuesday
9/6 ... tuesday
9/13 ... tuesday
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look out kid they keep it all hid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14387740 Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:15:55 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14387688 boblandy :
said by WLiley See Profile :

So I uninstalled & reinstalled. Rebooted and got the AS update
but what did this tell you, really, about the date of the def update?

undoubtedly they show on your machine as the date they were downloaded, and this does nothing to resolve the original question that was brought up here....

did i really find new 9/13 defs or was i 4 days late on ones dated 9/9

and until ZA elects to assign a version number to their updates, this same uncertainty will prevail

don't you agree
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look out kid they keep it all hid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14387688 Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:03:35 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14387647 TK421 :
said by boblandy See Profile :

said by TK421 See Profile :

If the regular Friday update remains predictable
did you get an update
Nope nothing... so much for that. :huh::uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14387647 Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:55:57 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14387615 WLiley : Version 6.0.667.000

Auto update enabled.

Have noticed that if I force an update check,
the AV reports that specific date/time of said check.
The AS reports back a date/time of actual signature update.

Seems a bit odd.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14387615 Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:49:27 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14387574 boblandy : glad to see you post back

mind sharing with us what version you run

and

do you have auto updating enabled

btw, i immediately saw the similarity between the zonelabs "cure" and what symantec recommends... and would have smiled at same were it not so frustrating
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look out kid they keep it all hid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14387574 Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:41:46 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14387550 WLiley : I wanted to chime in again.
My wife's pc recieved the update just as Bob reported, and WHEN reported. Yet no matter what I tried (and there seems to be little to try) - I could not get the update.

So, I created a case w/ Zone Labs - just as the ZL User Forum suggests. What I got back from them was the most disappointing email yet. It did not even acknowledge that specific problem. Instead it only gave detailed instructions on how to uninstall & reinstall. Sort of a "no matter what your problem is, do this..."
(Which I can do with my eyes closed.)

It did not even say that "this will work" though I knew it would. So I uninstalled & reinstalled. Rebooted and got the AS update.

I can't remember for sure, but way way back when I used Norton I think that was "the solution" to not getting their updates too. That was one of many reasons I dumped them when I did.

Having had many inside contacts w/ ZL & Checkpoint over the years, I can tell ya that there's alot of changes going on there. Not all appear to be good changes.
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Team Z Member "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over." Hunter S. Thompson ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14387550 Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:36:28 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14383758 boblandy :
said by TK421 See Profile :

If the regular Friday update remains predictable
did you get an update
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look out kid they keep it all hid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14383758 Sat, 17 Sep 2005 10:24:27 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359972 TK421 : Of course. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359972 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:28:32 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359967 boblandy :
said by TK421 See Profile :

but don't try to convince me ZAP is inferior in any way to many of the programs that are allowed
you're speaking in general, to others, i suspect

because i'm not trying to convince you of that
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look out kid they keep it all hid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359967 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:25:27 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359958 TK421 : Well none of the other security suites get in either... but don't try to convince me ZAP is inferior in any way to many of the programs that are allowed. Personally, I believe ZAP antispyware is at the very least as good (better) than MSAS (although I use both).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359958 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:22:06 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359945 boblandy :
said by TK421 See Profile :

Wouldn't it be nice if ZA was included in the Security Updates sticky? I doubt that will happen though
i was already told not to post these updates there, and not even in the security forum... and not to expect to see them in the updates forum "for a long while" because it's "not a software most people can or do rely on"
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look out kid they keep it all hid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359945 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:15:09 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359919 TK421 : I completely agree - ZoneLabs should add a definition number to make it clear what version is current. Perhaps they want to encourage users to enable auto-update?

The problem is they are using only the date to show definitions version while most other AV/AS programs have version numbers. That can cause confusion posting about updates for those, like me, who prefer to update manually. Wouldn't it be nice if ZA was included in the Security Updates sticky? I doubt that will happen though. :huh:

This is my only gripe with ZA AntiSpyware since it really does seem to be very good protection. If the regular Friday update remains predictable at least I'll know when to expect it (also Thursday update for MSAS-Beta).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359919 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:04:40 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359731 boblandy : without some means of identifying the updates other than the date (which appears on each user's system as the time they are downloaded), this type of uncertainty will always occur

if ZA is going to insist on this oddball method of assigning ever-changing dates to each new def release, then at least they could issue a version number to go with the update, like Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta1 does, to distinguish one update from another
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look out kid they keep it all hid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359731 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:46:34 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359615 TK421 : You always beat me to it Bob. ;)

I get most security (and other) updates after reading about them first at BBR.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359615 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 01:17:21 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359448 boblandy : again, quite possible i just today grabbed defs from 9/9, and they appear to me as 9/13

why don't you guys consider posting them when you get them

that's what i've been trying to do
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look out kid they keep it all hid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359448 Wed, 14 Sep 2005 00:44:35 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359149 TK421 : Strange. I have 6.0.667.000 but received no update tonight. The pattern thus far was new weekly definitions each Friday...

Checking for Update
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14359149 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:56:28 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14358917 boblandy : yet another variable to consider here is that many ZAP users are experiencing problems getting updates... to the point that the newest version release 6.0.667.000 includes, among other improvements,

Fixed - Anti-Spyware update sometimes "not responding"

out of curiosity, what version are you running
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look out kid they keep it all hid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14358917 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:21:33 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14358859 boblandy : thing is, to the best of my knowledge, ZA Anti-spyware defs are dated according to when they are downloaded by the user, not according to when they are released

Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta1 does the same thing with their defs, but at least they assign a version number to keep it more identifiable

i posted the defs as soon as i saw them. if they were around since 9/9, who knows

or maybe you downloaded the 9/6/2005 defs three days after they became available

i think they could use a better system
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look out kid they keep it all hid]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14358859 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:15:20 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14358844 WLiley : Okay, now how to explain why I'm not getting the update?
Have checked for update several times today. Twice since your post.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14358844 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:13:30 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14358810 boblandy : as stated, Anti-spyware update...
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14358810 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:08:02 EDT Re: ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14358767 WLiley : Anti-spyware? or anti-virus?

Mine shows AV definitions of 9/13.
But AS definitions of 9/9]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14358767 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 23:02:32 EDT ZoneAlarm Anti-spyware update http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14357811 boblandy : definitions dated 9/13/2005]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14357811 Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:03:26 EDT