 Combat ChuckToo Many CannibalsPremium
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Re: Storm in a bottle? said by RevDNSwhois :
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Which tells you nothing about where the end users are located. Not to mention that sometimes that info is bogus.
According to your method, I live in NJ.
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 TamaraBQuestion The Current ParadigmPremium
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| said by Combat Chuck:said by RevDNSwhois :
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Which tells you nothing about where the end users are located. Not to mention that sometimes that info is bogus. According to your method, I live in NJ. The "new" latency method tells you even less! It triangulates to a major city at best.
The NSA has access to the billing records of the ISPs who assigned those IP addresses. So, it's no big deal for them to get an address and a name. You and I can't just make a phone call, and demand the name and address of the user of that IP at any given time, the NSA CAN. The, resolution, is accurate to the local central office; in a metropolitan city, that's far greater resolution than you will get by the "latency method".
Can you see ANY benefit to using the newly patented Latency method over billing/ISP/DHCP information? If so, please tell me, as I am totally bewildered as to why the NSA is spending money developing an inferior geolocation method from what currently exists.
An IP address always correlates to a billing address (someone on this earth pays for that connection), the NSA has access to this information.
Bob
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 calvoiper
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1 edit | said by TamaraB:... Can you see ANY benefit to using the newly patented Latency method over billing/ISP/DHCP information? If so, please tell me, as I am totally bewildered as to why the NSA is spending money developing an inferior geolocation method from what currently exists. ... Bob The only use that comes to mind for me is in making the "rough cut" on determining the location of a VOIP user dialing 9-1-1 from a new location not shared with his VOIP provider--but this would assume that the user could provide "finer" detail on location (street address, hotel name, etc.) but if the user can provide that, they can provide the name of the metro area, too.
Besides, if this needs "many samples", you aren't going to get those in time to help someone through 9-1-1.
calvoiper
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TamaraBQuestion The Current ParadigmPremium
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| said by calvoiper:The only use that comes to mind for me is in making the "rough cut" on determining the location of a VOIP user dialing 9-1-1 from a new location not shared with his VOIP provider-- Every VOIP packet contains a source and destination IP addresses, which identifies a provider / Country / City / and user account. The "location" will ALWAYS be the last router in the ISP's network connecting to the user.
I still don't get the point of this 
Bob
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