 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium
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Mount Airy, MD | No Big Deal Let the UN decide that they want to control the Internet, and then let them assemble the armies and raise the money needed to pry that control from our cold, dead hands.
Oh wait a minute, never mind 
If the rest of the world doesn't like it, they can go create their own Internet and control it all they like. The last thing we need is for countries like Iran, China, North Korea and Cuba having a say in how the Internet is "governed."
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 ScilicetPremium
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Aurora, CO | So what are we? A third world country? We created it and WE will decide on how our own technology will be used. Let them design their own internet! |
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 en102Canadian, eh?
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Valencia, CA | I agree - ARPANET was originally US govt. built.
If anyone else wants their 'own' internet...it may have to be all in private address space :P
The Internet may sound like the largest 'bait and switch', but I'm sure that every country knew what they were getting when they got a domain.
Until then, since they are not the U.S., and have use of the Internet, let them hack, DVD's, and everything else under the sun, as they aren't tied to U.S. law (International, yes, U.S., no) |
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said by Scilicet:So what are we? A third world country? We created it and WE will decide on how our own technology will be used. So since the Swiss invented the World Wide Web, they can keep that, and we'll take what, Gopher?
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Mount Airy, MD | reply to en102
said by en102:If anyone else wants their 'own' internet...it may have to be all in private address space :P The French developed their own national data network awhile back, known as Minitel.
said by en102:Until then, since they are not the U.S., and have use of the Internet, let them hack, DVD's, and everything else under the sun, as they aren't tied to U.S. law (International, yes, U.S., no) You know, since such actions supposedly hurt the big media companies which donate to many U.S. politicians who I don't like, I am all for this
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Um... please at least do some research before you start flinging statements around. Tim Berners-Lee is the "inventor" of the World Wide Web and he, from what I've been able to find out, is British and not Swiss. He may have invented the WWW while he was at CERN (which is based in Switzerland), but this does not mean it was "invented by the Swiss." |
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said by sporkme:said by Scilicet:So what are we? A third world country? We created it and WE will decide on how our own technology will be used. So since the Swiss invented the World Wide Web, they can keep that, and we'll take what, Gopher? Brilliant! Tim Berners-Lee is swiss? |
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Snohomish, WA | reply to sporkme
That only seems fair....Therefore if everyone that invented something that has to do with the internet now would like to have complete control over their creation, the internet would not exist....The U.S. contributed something to the internet but other nations did as well, and that's exactly what some thick headed americans just can't see. The internet as we have it now was not created by the United States only. |
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2 edits | I believe, and if I am wrong please correct me. The internet as we know now, stemmed from the military needing a way to communicate between the different divisions, branches, what not and have the capability to communicate, universities needed this capability to, again, if someone feels I am incorrect, please let me know.
»www.ibiblio.org/pioneers/ is good reading. |
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said by pnh102:If the rest of the world doesn't like it, they can go create their own Internet and control it all they like. The last thing we need is for countries like Iran, China, North Korea and Cuba having a say in how the Internet is "governed." Before you write something think, the world has made the internet what it is, not the US, the use invented it for the purpose of war, it then when to a new level, the world now is continuing, as for China, oh please America sleeps with China so don't worry about them, Iran please who cares, what are they going to do, put up some nasty web pages, haha, its not like they can't do that now, Cuba, is 90 miles for the keys, if we wanted them gone we would have done it 20 year ago, North Korea, oh yeah we are really afraid of a starving society, that I believe we feed or at least South Korea does, and we I am sure help them.
And as for Iraq, oh yes we have done great there, but if you don't think we have, they you should join the military and go there and see what you can do. |
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sporkmedrop the crantini and move it, sisterPremium,MVM
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said by LinuxJunkie:Um... please at least do some research before you start flinging statements around. Tim Berners-Lee is the "inventor" of the World Wide Web and he, from what I've been able to find out, is British and not Swiss. He may have invented the WWW while he was at CERN (which is based in Switzerland), but this does not mean it was "invented by the Swiss." OK, we'll call it a joint Swiss/UK invention. Neither country, you may note, is the United States. CERN is gov't funded, so the Swiss get some large portion of the credit in my eyes.
So will it be Gopher for you then? Or Archie? |
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 matteiModerated, now muzzled
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Canada | Much ado about nothing I remember playing with this: »www.cs.umd.edu/hcil/hyperties/
Also in 1989, Tim Berners-Lee referred to our work and used the term "hot spots" in his proposal Information Management: A Proposal, CERN, March 1989, May 1990, » www.w3.org/pub/WWW/History/1989/···sal.html. Berners-Lee stated, ". . .several programs have been made exploring these ideas, both commercially and academically. Most of them use "hot spots" in documents, like icons, or highlighted phrases, as sensitive areas. Touching a hot spot with a mouse brings up the relevant information, or expands the test on the screen to include it. Imagine, then, then references in this document, all being associated with the network address of the thing to which they referred, so that while reading this document you could skip to them with a click of the mouse." |
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Re: No Big Deal haha, its not like they can't do that now Dude, the one of the major points is that this (generally) ISN'T done under our control. Your very argument proves that you understand that point, even if you aren't willing to cognitively accept it.
Argue all you want, but I would be surprised to hear any compelling reason I should expect it NOT be done under UN control.
Some others have bantered about the foreign (to the US, anyway) creation of the world wide web. Fine. But the fact is that we control the infrastructure, so it's a moot point.
Other than some Utopian concept of global, multilateral "fairness," how about describing one or two REAL reasons for us to hand it over?
I challenge you. Give me something with substance. Give me a problem that US control can't resolve (and if you try something along the lines of "censorship by the governors" (the USA), I want detailed examples both of said corruption - Internet related - and proof of why it wouldn't be any worse by handing the control to the bureaucracy of the UN.) |
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said by rideboarder:That only seems fair....Therefore if everyone that invented something that has to do with the internet now would like to have complete control over their creation, the internet would not exist....The U.S. contributed something to the internet but other nations did as well, and that's exactly what some thick headed americans just can't see. The internet as we have it now was not created by the United States only. It is truth that Internet was not created by the US, but hell we funded lots of it, or hell may be all of it in the first place (for it to become an internet as vast as you see today) Let me ask you this, you spend hours/money on building something and it became successful, your neighbor jump and said "Hey since we live in the same neighbor hood, we should share our control/gain on that thing" what do you do? give the neighbor control of what you been spending blood/money on? I don't think so. |
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Guess you aren't going to rise to the challenge?
Figures you had no real facts... |
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