Re: More Pop-ups Lately With SP2 Popup Blocker in Security

Re: More Pop-ups Lately With SP2 Popup Blocker in Security http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r14493854 en Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:54:28 EDT Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:54:28 EDT Re: More Pop-ups Lately With SP2 Popup Blocker http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14500884 RobertLudlum : More popup test if you are interested

»www.kephyr.com/popupkillertest/index.html
»www.popup-killer-review.com/test.htm
»www.popupcheck.com/
»www.webknacks.com/aptest.htm
»www.auditmypc.com/freescan/pop-u···cker.asp

I highly recommend the first link, lots of unusual "popups".
I've never seen any of these 'in the wild' though..]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14500884 Tue, 04 Oct 2005 08:54:29 EDT Re: More Pop-ups Lately With SP2 Popup Blocker http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14499015 reinman60 : Just stumbled onto this thread. Tried the four links that Instant Karma posted, just out of curiosity. With IE 6 three out of the four produced popups. Using Firefox (just installed it yesterday and getting to like it more and more) only the second link produced a popup. Just my two cents worth.

Does that mean that Firefox is three times better at blocking poppus than IE6? Cheers!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14499015 Mon, 03 Oct 2005 23:08:37 EDT Re: More Pop-ups Lately With SP2 Popup Blocker http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14498582 Bud4wiser : You know, this thread is interesting in the sense that you have all these applications attempting to reign in all the exstensible features of the various browsers.

I had commented about MS attempt to increase security with the "zone settings" approach. (old thread) But like that interface, whats problematic is the actual operation of these apps. MS forces you to manually "add" sire to various vzones, either cutting and pasting - or typing.... What's worse, with all the sub domains, it's a mess....

As it has been mentioned, to really work a series of filters needs to be maintained and adjusted with these apps.

What "irks" me is that no one can depend on be alerted to what content is wanted or rejected.

I want a pure "HTML only" web, or at least a new "default" listing of how many browser extensions are required for a given website's homepage to display and work properly.

A "letter code" could be required for websites that demand you open your browser to scripting, asp, animation, etc...

But I digress......
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said by Bud4wiser

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The auditmypc website serves a corrupted file.

However, I downloaded "privoxy", just what is it doing? Sending all my web usage to auditmypc? It appears to be a "cookie" restrictor and "redirect shield"....

Does here anyone use it?

I tried Privoxy two or three years ago and while it is no piece of crap it is no Proxomitron replacement either. Not yet anyway. Actually there is another app on the horizon called Proximodo which I think will replace Proxomitron eventually.

»proximodo.sourceforge.net/
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Get privoxy from www.privoxy.org - do not use from another source. Always get the programs from a trusted source.
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However, I downloaded "privoxy", just what is it doing? Sending all my web usage to auditmypc? It appears to be a "cookie" restrictor and "redirect shield"....

Does here anyone use it?
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said by Doctor Olds

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...3 of the 4 are Javascripted tricks. ;)

All four are scripted. But you are right, the Google toolbar's pop-up blocker had nothing to do with it. Disabling Javascript killed them.
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said by hpguru

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Some of those are not pop-ups in the sense of opening a separate window so standard pop-up blockers will not be effective against them. For example none of these are pop-ups.

»www.popuptest.com/popuptest14.html
»www.popuptest.com/popuptest8.html
»www.popuptest.com/7/popuptest7.html
»www.popuptest.com/popuptest6.html

FWIW, none of those worked on my browser. I have SP2's popupblocker disabled and use the one on the Google toolbar instead. I also use IE in High Security mode, which blocks any javascript and ActiveX from running unless I specifically allow it.

mady
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said by Bud4wiser

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Thanks for the tip.....
»www.auditmypc.com/proxomitron.asp

I wouldn't download it from them. Any one of the following 3 sources is trusted by the Proxo community at large.
»www.proxomitron.info/
»kyeu.hostingzero.com/paFileDB/
»castlecops.com/downloads-cat-19.html
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»www.auditmypc.com/proxomitron.asp
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Absolutely Proxo is the best content blocker but it's effective use is well beyond the understanding of most net users unfortunately. As effective as it is, disabling Javascript will remain the best alternative to preventing such annoyances because as I mentioned before, there is no limit to the ways these things can be coded. Write a Proxo filter that stops it today and any Javascript programmer worth his salts can create a new script your filter will not match.
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The second test did open the dropdown pop up/slider.

The third test also did it's banner grab.

The last one also did its thing staying at the top right as you scrolled the page.

So, what does that all mean? The first link uses Java and the last three use Javascript. They made typos on the last three pages you chose as when I disabled Javascript none of those popup appeared when retested. Those are easy to filter out when using a program like Proxomitron. ;)

Regards,

Doctor Olds
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said by Doctor Olds

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See what is getting through by testing here:

»www.popuptest.com/

Some of those are not pop-ups in the sense of opening a separate window so standard pop-up blockers will not be effective against them. For example none of these are pop-ups.

»www.popuptest.com/popuptest14.html
»www.popuptest.com/popuptest8.html
»www.popuptest.com/7/popuptest7.html
»www.popuptest.com/popuptest6.html

The information offered is also incorrect. Disabling Java will not prevent any of these techniques. Disabling Javascript will however. For those I listed above there is simply no limit to the number of ways such structures can be coded and so one should not expect any pop-up blocker to be 100% effective against them.
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»www.popuptest.com/

Regards,

Doctor Olds]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14492721 Mon, 03 Oct 2005 05:44:41 EDT Re: More Pop-ups Lately With SP2 Popup Blocker http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14492653 RobertLudlum : I haven't really noticed more popups (traditional kind) getting through. Altough there are quite a few floating ads kind of popups being used these days.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14492653 Mon, 03 Oct 2005 04:49:09 EDT Re: More Pop-ups Lately With SP2 Popup Blocker http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14489545 Solo_Senshi : A lot of pop-ups get through blockers by using Javascript. Not sure exactly what to set on IE to prevent this.

I've been using FireFox for a long time and started noticing those, I installed the noscript extension and only allow Javascript on sites I trust. That way I can still use Javascript on some sites, like Yahoo for email, and not allow it on other sites, like those that make pop-ups.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14489545 Sun, 02 Oct 2005 17:48:14 EDT Re: More Pop-ups Lately With SP2 Popup Blocker http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14489517 anon : There is a tweak for firefox to have no popups come through, I haven't had one yet after using the tweak. Here it is for users that don't know it..
1. Type about:config into the Firefox location bar.
2. Right-click on the page and select New and then Integer.
3. Name it privacy.popups.disable_from_plugins
4. Set the value to 2.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14489517 Sun, 02 Oct 2005 17:41:18 EDT Re: More Pop-ups Lately With SP2 Popup Blocker http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14489151 redxii : I noticed a miniscule amount of pop-ups getting through in IE6 SP2 lately, and also Firefox too (just so we don't single anyone out). Just keep in mind I don't extend functionality in Firefox that already exists so that means no extensions to Firefox's popup blocker.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14489151 Sun, 02 Oct 2005 16:32:41 EDT More Pop-ups Lately With SP2 Popup Blocker http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14489119 starfish8 : I use the Windows XP SP2 pop-up blocker. Over the last month or so the number of pop-ups getting through has been increasing. I'm talking about regular pop-ups, not flash ads. I scan my system with MSAS and Adaware, so I don't think it's spyware. Has anybody else experienced this?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,14489119 Sun, 02 Oct 2005 16:27:58 EDT