4 edits | Cogent the bad guy; but they are making demands Cogent is generally accepted as the bad guy in this dispute. But the Cogent CEO is the one making all the demands. He has a lot of nerve. All he wants to do is get the PR heat off his company, so that he can go back to stalling and refusing to pay anything for their connections.
P.S> all connections up and running btw Cogent and Level3:
»www.internethealthreport.com/ I guess Level3 gave in to the blackmail.
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| Re: Cogent the bad guy; but they are making demand I have seen a bunch of folks condeming cogent for supposedly abusing peering. Does anyone have proof of this? Level 3's statement about an inbalance is far form factual since no metrics were provided. Keep this in mind before condeming either company. We don't know anything other than press releases which are dubious to form a informed opinion on. So far all we have is theories and speculations.
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united state | I suggest doing some reading on Cogent. This is far from the first time this has happened and Cogent is known for it. Thats why you'll find people warning to stay away from Cogents low/cheap prices for fast connections. Cogent is maintaining these cheap fast speeds by screwing over their peers.
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Valencia, CA | I've heard that one before too (about Cogent) from a former co-worker that worked for a backbone provider.. |
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said by hescominsoon:I have seen a bunch of folks condeming cogent for supposedly abusing peering. Does anyone have proof of this? Level 3's statement about an inbalance is far form factual since no metrics were provided. Keep this in mind before condeming either company. We don't know anything other than press releases which are dubious to form a informed opinion on. So far all we have is theories and speculations. I have worked in 4 pops in the northeast that cogent has a presence in. The general traffic is usually 7 to 1 in these pops, they are not holding their own. They are abusing the agreements.
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Re: Cogent the bad guy; but they are making demands "Their peers" can easily "load" up the BGP path weights to cause Cogent to route elsewhere. Turning it off and hurting the Internet in general is not the way to do things. Too much traffic coming it, throttle it. They can do that. At least traffic will flow, just a lot slower. They have the ability to control that; and I think they should. Maybe they are just too lazy to really keep an eye on their own borders. |
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Las Vegas, NV | said by jchin:"Their peers" can easily "load" up the BGP path weights to cause Cogent to route elsewhere. Turning it off and hurting the Internet in general is not the way to do things. Too much traffic coming it, throttle it. They can do that. At least traffic will flow, just a lot slower. They have the ability to control that; and I think they should. Maybe they are just too lazy to really keep an eye on their own borders. This is not the way it works. The peering contracts are written to prohibit such traffic engineering. Such traffic manipulation is common from customer to transit provider but rare in peering between carriers. The only thing you can do is ask the peer to re-negotiate or do things like take MEDS so that they switch from hot potato to cold potato routing back to you. When these things cannot be negotiated, the terms end or one party chooses to terminate and peering may discontinue. It has happened before and it's not the last time. |
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