thully
join:2005-08-13
Grass Lake, MI | [DW6000] Turning proxy off seems to improve many things... I had been running my DW6000 setup with the proxy ON for all computers - mostly for the simple reason that it supposedly speeds up DNS. However, as I'm using other wireless connections (non-DirecWay) more often on my laptop, and I'm having LOTS of problems with pages not loading and having to reset the modem often, I decided to try turning the proxy off.
So far, everything seems much improved. The setup seems more reliable, faster, and I haven't needed to reset the modem yet. Doesn't this sound weird? Maybe DirecWay has a reason other than VPN incompatibilities for recommending people turn the proxy off in the latest documentation... |
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| Re: [DW6000] Turning proxy off seems to improve ma Check some of the 7000 posts, they are suggesting leaving the proxy off. I have tried it both ways and have turned all my proxies off since it seemed to make little difference and with it off I don't have to dink with the exceptions list.
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 Rfsjr2Shop on TopPremium
join:2001-08-11
Ferndale, WA | So that's proxy off and still running your own DNS? |
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 MikofoxGun Control Saves Li..BearsPremium
join:2003-01-05
North of 61* | reply to thully
Re: [DW6000] Turning proxy off seems to improve many things... I agree with having almost no problems with Proxy OFF.
I haven't tested it completely, but if the Proxy is OFF, Web Acceleration does not kick in (on my Mac).
Right now I have a 66... WA address and it feels very slow. I want to do more testing when I get the 172... address again.
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I dont know about consumer, but when I upgraded to professional, the proxy no longer had any effect on my speeds. Now im always at 1Mbps down. Proxy on or off. Everything works better for me with the proxy off. Pages even come up faster. Maybe there is a different firmware for Pro accounts but both still show as the 4.3.2.7? It did do a firmware upgrade after recommissioning. All I know is switching to Pro has improved everything for me. |
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Re: [DW6000] Turning proxy off seems to improve ma I've tried it with my local DNS server both on and off and it seems to make no real difference. I'm running the local DNS to make my LAN easier to deal with not for speed like with a 4000.
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 CMLeft Hip On Cattle
join:2002-04-15
Montana | reply to mistereyet
Re: [DW6000] Turning proxy off seems to improve many things... said by mistereyet:I dont know about consumer, but when I upgraded to professional, the proxy no longer had any effect on my speeds. Now im always at 1Mbps down. Small wonder...
No Direcway proxy scheme has ever been intended to affect download speed. It has always been a 'browsing enhancement'
CM
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 Bill00Premium
join:2004-07-20
Capron, VA | We report, you decide. See below.
This works the same with "plain" IE6 without the Maxthon front end. It is also repeatable with normal variation any number of times. I don't know just how long it has been this way for me, but it has been a LONG time.
Firefox has always been slower than IE on the testmynet site since I have been using it, and they had a blurb there recently that there was a problem with it.
FWIW.
Bill.
IE6/Maxthon
Proxy OFF
:::.. Download Stats ..:::
Connection is:: 592 Kbps about 0.6 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)
Download Speed is:: 72 kB/s
Tested From:: »testmy.net/ (server2)
Test Time:: Fri Oct 14 12:17:29 EDT 2005
Bottom Line:: 11X faster than 56K 1MB download in 14.22 sec
Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 71.24 % of your hosts average (direcpc.com)
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/stats/id-45X3QGZK9
Proxy ON
:::.. Download Stats ..:::
Connection is:: 874 Kbps about 0.9 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)
Download Speed is:: 107 kB/s
Tested From:: »testmy.net/ (server2)
Test Time:: Fri Oct 14 12:20:11 EDT 2005
Bottom Line:: 16X faster than 56K 1MB download in 9.57 sec
Diagnosis: Looks Great : 5.17 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com)
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/stats/id-SORP7JM1Z
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Small wonder...
No Direcway proxy scheme has ever been intended to affect download speed. It has always been a 'browsing enhancement'
CM
Regardless of whether it was intended to, It always did. Maybe the quicker connection caused it to get better speed test results on testmy? I dont know. I just go with what works lol.
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Re: [DW6000] Turning proxy off seems to improve ma Bill, what rate plan do you have? |
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Bill00Premium
join:2004-07-20
Capron, VA | Not exactly sure what you are asking. I have the DW600 CE $60/month and my Rate code is 10.
If neither of those is what you want, let me know...
Bill.
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| Sounds like that's the "Home" plan? I just upgraded to the "Pro" plan and was comparing speeds. You win! |
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 SpinnakerOk, But What Is The Speed Of Dark?Premium,MVM
join:2002-12-08
Holden, ME | reply to Bill00
Re: [DW6000] Turning proxy off seems to improve many things... said by Bill00:...This works the same with "plain" IE6 without the Maxthon front end. It is also repeatable with normal variation any number of times. I don't know just how long it has been this way for me, but it has been a LONG time. Firefox has always been slower than IE on the testmynet site since I have been using it, and they had a blurb there recently that there was a problem with it. FWIW. Bill. Bill -
Does this look familiar? For me on my DW6000 Consumer setup, the IE6 TestMy.net download speeds have been slower with the Proxy OFF for quite some time. As you mentioned, Firefox is just plain slower than IE6 (Proxy ON) regardless of whether you do the test with the Firefox Proxy ON or OFF.
IE6
Proxy ON -
Connection is:: 892 Kbps about 0.9 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)
Download Speed is:: 109 kB/s
Tested From:: »testmy.net/ (server2)
Test Time:: Fri Oct 14 18:31:13 EDT 2005
Bottom Line:: 16X faster than 56K 1MB download in 9.39 sec
Diagnosis: Looks Great : 7.47 % faster than the average for host (direcpc.com)
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/stats/id-NJ5VCXLK2
Proxy OFF -
:::.. Download Stats ..:::
Connection is:: 676 Kbps about 0.7 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)
Download Speed is:: 82 kB/s
Tested From:: »testmy.net/ (server2)
Test Time:: Fri Oct 14 18:33:14 EDT 2005
Bottom Line:: 12X faster than 56K 1MB download in 12.49 sec
Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 81.45 % of your hosts average (direcpc.com)
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/stats/id-XE8DWPOVM
Firefox V1.0.4
Proxy ON -
:::.. Download Stats ..:::
Connection is:: 587 Kbps about 0.6 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)
Download Speed is:: 72 kB/s
Tested From:: »testmy.net/ (server2)
Test Time:: Fri Oct 14 2005 18:25:32 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time)
Bottom Line:: 10X faster than 56K 1MB download in 14.22 sec
Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 70.72 % of your hosts average (direcpc.com)
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/stats/id-AI6QVL1CM
Proxy OFF -
:::.. Download Stats ..:::
Connection is:: 532 Kbps about 0.5 Mbps (tested with 2992 kB)
Download Speed is:: 65 kB/s
Tested From:: »testmy.net/ (server2)
Test Time:: Fri Oct 14 2005 18:28:50 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time)
Bottom Line:: 10X faster than 56K 1MB download in 15.75 sec
Diagnosis: May need help : running at only 64.1 % of your hosts average (direcpc.com)
Validation Link:: »testmy.net/stats/id-39L6NTOYP
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Bill00Premium
join:2004-07-20
Capron, VA | said by Spinnaker:Bill - Does this look familiar? For me on my DW6000 Consumer setup, the IE6 TestMy.net download speeds have been slower with the Proxy OFF for quite some time. As you mentioned, Firefox is just plain slower than IE6 (Proxy ON) regardless of whether you do the test with the Firefox Proxy ON or OFF. Yep. Same church, same pew...
Bill.
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| reply to thully
I can't seem to configure ANYTHING with my DW6000. how can i turn this proxy off? is it another 'hidden' page that's not linked too or something? |
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SpinnakerOk, But What Is The Speed Of Dark?Premium,MVM
join:2002-12-08
Holden, ME | reply to thully
nothreat33 -
You can't turn the Web Acceleration (Turbo Page) proxy in the DW6000 off. It's always on (it's enabled at the NOC). What we're turning ON and OFF is the HTTP Proxy that's set up in the Browser. In IE6, go to "Tools - Internet Options" and click the "LAN Settings.." button on the Connections Tab. If the Proxy in the browser is set up and you put a check in "Use a proxy server for your LAN..." in the Proxy Server section, you're using the browser proxy. If you uncheck "Use a proxy server for your LAN...", you're not using the proxy. To set up the proxy in the browser , click the "Advanced.." button (in the Proxy Server section) and enter 192.168.0.1 , port 87 in the "HTTP:" box.
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Re: [DW6000] Turning proxy off seems to improve ma Amazing....
After 10 tests of each configuration and averagaing and rounding the results...
»www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
MSIE:
With Proxy
Download = 1000kbps
Upload - NaN (Can't seem to do it)
Without Proxy
Download = 900kbps
Upload = 350kbps !!!
Firefox:
With Proxy
Download = 900kbps
Upload - NaN (Can't seem to do it)
Without Proxy
Download = 850kbps
Upload = 250kbps !!!
»testmy.net/
MSIE:
With Proxy
Download = 1000kbps
Upload - 40kbps
Without Proxy
Download = 840kbps
Upload = 60kbps
Firefox:
With Proxy
Download = 580kbps
Upload - 40kbps
Without Proxy
Download = 550kbps
Upload = 40kbps
Firefox is only 55%-60% as fast as MSIE whether or not you use a proxy. And appears to be only capable of very slow uploads regardless of proxy too.
On the other hand. WIth proxy off MSIE can be 10% slower to download, but 50% faster to upload than Firefox using testmy.net, or if you believe speakeasy.net it's up to 10 times faster without the proxy! |
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