said by Lex Luthor :

What does forced encryption actually do? How does it help you and/or the BT network?

said by MxxCon :

enable forced encryption. you won't get that many peers, but you'll be promoting healthy network and give a major middle finger to OOL's spying software.

said by jizam :

Thanks for assisting Mxx-

I tested it last night and thought it was working. Started seeding a torrent I had downloaded using Azureus and it uploaded quite well. But then I tried to seed two of my own torrents and after about 6 hours, each had only uploaded about 325kb. Opened Azureus to seed the same two torrents and the uploads took off.

I don't think it's been 100% resolved but I'm damn excited he's at least working on it. The program is really awesome. If this gets completely fixed, I'll be one extremely happy camper!

said by jizam :

A new client has been introduced that helps the problem some people seem to be having.
utorrent.com

µTorrent 1.1.6
- Feature: Support lazy-bitfields, required for some ISPs, or seeding won't work.

said by Rasstar :

You guys still think OOL blocking your torrents? This is rediculous...it must be your torrent software because I have been using torrents for sometime and never had any problems.

said by StreetSpirit :

(Snipped)Note: Azureus refuses to seed for me without the lazy.bitfield flag, contrary to what was mentioned.

said by SunSpot :

No, you don't. In fact, I recently uninstalled my old version of Azureus (2.3.0.2) and did a clean install of the newest ( 2.3.0.4.), and everything works great. No need to modify a thing.

said by packetscan :

I use Bit torrent for Linux Iso's where ever possible. I've never seen this (capping).. The last bit torrent ISO i downloaded was SUSE-9.3 linux DVD.. I seeded it for weeks at 90k/s.

They haven't capped me yet..

said by DerelictDev :

Does anyone else get this in console window? It happens right when it tries to connect to a seed and then is dropped.

said by coreyk:

so your Azereus.exe is in d:/multimedia? or just your prefs?

i'm not getting an error, but azerus isn't launching when i try to start from the c: prompt

said by mekonfuzed :

i think you need a shovel.

said by steviegee :

Has anyone been able to seed? I can't seed with Bitcomet.

said by MxxCon :

did you even bother to read this thread or just smacked on 'new reply' button?:huh:

said by steviegee :

Has anyone been able to seed? I can't seed with Bitcomet.

said by Anon0:

I hope that the ABC authors integrate that version soon

BitTornado T-0.3.12 has been released. Changes include bug fixes to the tracker and to btlaunchmany[curses], the Windows installers' being built using older versions of Python and wxPython to fix the problem with the client sticking in the task list, and the addition of a little sneakiness to help keep ISPs from killing connections to seed clients.

said by radmish :

This gives me a Java dialog box that says "Could not find the main class. Program will exit"

said by XtreamFTP:

I found the solution to my problem with a windows PC using azureus, I dont know if it was said in the 9 pages before this, but download the new azureus beta.

»azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php

replace the jar file, and make a cmd file to load up azureus
i made a file called startazureus.cmd and placed it in the c:\program files\azureus directory. the first line i put it it was


i have a shortcut to this on my desktop, now i use it whenever i want to launch azureus, and it works like a charm

said by Anon0:

Also, after some testing Azureus doesn't seem to make any outgoing seeding connections with the 55 build and the command line, so again I would recommend sticking with Gummi's fix for now which still works for me (just like enabling super-seeding with other clients)

said by MxxCon :

after my last test with network sniffing,
and since OOL continue being such dicks and want to break our internet,
tonight i talked with Nolar(one of Azureus developers), and he was kind enough to create a solution for us(and all other suffering souls)
»azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php
so use it, enjoy it and give to OOL

if you prefer using any other BT client, ask developers to have this 'fix' implemented.

[02:30] [Nolar] it just doesnt set any bits to 1 in the first and last byte, and instead sends them via a Have
[02:33] [Nolar] normal seeding bitfield: 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[02:34] [Nolar] lazy seeding bitfield: 00000000111111111111111111111111111111100000000
[02:35] [Mxx] so i tell people that i don't have those parts?
[02:38] [Nolar] you tell them about those 0'd pieces via Have messages instead
[02:55] [Nolar] B55 and onwards will be enable-able via »azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.p···eOptions

said by MxxCon :

with the help of another guy i ran network sniffer to see what's going on and it seems like OOL is sending spoofed packets to me(seed) and to destination(leech) with tcp RST switch.
and they do instantly after i transmit how many pieces i have(all).
if at least 1 piece is missing, everything works fine.

said by Mullet:

To anyone that can post the azureus2.jar file.

said by Mullet:

To anyone that can post the azureus2.jar file. There is no difference between the .jar on either mac or pc. The thing that prevents us from doing this hack is that stuffit or zip or whatever won't recompress a file in a similar manner to winzip. So that's where the OSX users stand. Please help us out and post a modified .jar file..

said by alkanenine:

Do you know if this would work with their OSX version?

said by friendxenemy:

just for those who don't know, you can upload using something besides bit torrent.
none of my torrents will seed, but I've been able to send files through AIM (at my 15kB/s capped speed of course) to people who then seed them for me.

said by optoffline:

Using bit torrents and never had any issues uploading. What the hell are you people talkign about now???????

said by Number61:

That's possible. I see a lot of clients hung while connecting or waiting for handshake when I'm seeding though. I'm not sure where the bitfield gets sent.

said by Number61:

I may have to break down and grab the source, but I'm lazy. I'm a C++ programmer, so I guess trying to sort out some java wouldn't be THAT hard.

said by mekonfuzed :

does event id 4226 show up in your event viewer?

said by Anon0:

Super-seeding for me worked - I switched over to the ABC client, though. Definitely worth a shot. Nice thing in that client, it's a simple checked right-click menu option on any torrent in your list, so you can easily turn it on or off.

said by mocks1 :

Windows XP Home service pack 2

I answered this and then I realised that you like to make joke posts after looking back on your post history

so maybe I should have answered:

Windows Foghorn version 3.0 no service pack

said by mocks1 :

MxxCon, you never said anything about SUPER-SEED in your IRC conversation that is why I asked

How would I set up my Azureus or any other BT client to use SSL. Thanks for any help you can provide

said by mocks1 :

MxxCon, can you post a question in the #Bittorrent forum you were on about SUPER-SEED data and how the process might be different from regular seeding and affecting OOL users?

Session Start: Mon Feb 21 18:55:06 2005
[06:55] ≡≡≡ Now talking in: (#bittorrent)
[06:55] MxxCon> hey folks
[06:56] MxxCon> quick question, when a leecher request a piece from another leecher, does it use same commands as when requesting a piece from a seed?
[06:57] DeHackEd> yes
[06:58] MxxCon> cool
[06:59] DeHackEd> there's no logical difference between them. just all the properties you'd expect from someone with 100% (never interested, etc)
[07:06] MxxCon> the reason i'm asking is that some people are saying cablevision is blocking upload requests when people seed, but not when they leech
[07:07] MxxCon> so if they were blocking uploads, ALL uploads would be blocked..not only in seed mode
[07:11] DeHackEd> they'd have to track the protocol and keep session information, which would be "unrealistic"
[07:16] deltab> a seed is just a node that has all the pieces
[07:16] deltab> it has no special role in the protocol
[07:17] deltab> that's what make it a peer-to-peer protocol

said by Number61:

I have to suspect that they're doing something that drops the handshake info. Bittorrent sends a very specific chunk of data to initiate a handshake, and it's possible OOL figured out how to find and drop these messages.

The super-seed feature in S-5.5 and on is a new seeding algorithm designed to help
a torrent initiator with limited bandwidth "pump up" a large torrent, reducing the
amount of data it needs to upload in order to spawn new seeds in the torrent.

When a seeding client enters "super-seed mode", it will not act as a standard seed,
but masquerades as a normal client with no data. As clients connect, it will then
inform them that it received a piece -- a piece that was never sent, or if all
pieces were already sent, is very rare. This will induce the client to attempt to
download only that piece.

When the client has finished downloading the piece, the seed will not inform it of
any other pieces until it has seen the piece it had sent previously present on at
least one other client. Until then, the client will not have access to any of the
other pieces of the seed, and therefore will not waste the seed's bandwidth.

This method has resulted in much higher seeding efficiencies, by both inducing
peers into taking only the rarest data, reducing the amount of redundant data sent,
and limiting the amount of data sent to peers which do not contribute to the swarm.
Prior to this, a seed might have to upload 150% to 200% of the total size of a
torrent before other clients became seeds. However, a large torrent seeded with a
single client running in super-seed mode was able to do so after only uploading
105% of the data. This is 150-200% more efficient than when using a standard seed.

Super-seed mode is *NOT* recommended for general use. While it does assist in the
wider distribution of rare data, because it limits the selection of pieces a
client can downlad, it also limits the ability of those clients to download data
for pieces they have already partially retrieved. Therefore, super-seed mode is
only recommended for initial seeding servers.

said by Number61:

I'm not sure what to even begin to look at next. I was all set to write a quick program to simulate sending a BT handshake, but that seems moot at this point :(

Any ideas?

said by musicfanhobo :

even if they could detect the handshake, it wouldn't explain why you'd be able to connect while you are leeching.

wouldn't it still be the same code whether you are at 100% and trying to seed as when you just have enough of the torrent to share.

I dont know enough about the protocols to even venture a guess. Just throwing it out there.

said by mekonfuzed :

i called up ool today cause i have lots of popups coming from my modem and my next door neighbor has the same problem and were on the same node and same modem so its ool's fault! you know what they did? they told me i needed to call dell!

said by mekonfuzed :

i called up ool today cause i have lots of popups coming from my modem and my next door neighbor has the same problem and were on the same node and same modem so its ool's fault! you know what they did? they told me i needed to call dell!

said by Bichon :

While I think you may be pulling our chain

said by mekonfuzed :

i called up ool today cause i have lots of popups coming from my modem and my next door neighbor has the same problem and were on the same node and same modem so its ool's fault! you know what they did? they told me i needed to call dell!

said by mekonfuzed :

i called up ool today cause i have lots of popups coming from my modem and my next door neighbor has the same problem and were on the same node and same modem so its ool's fault! you know what they did? they told me i needed to call dell!

said by blanka2k2 :

then what a coincidence that a number of people started having the same problem almost on the same day.

said by Toolmanjoe :

Stop being arrogant and either explain to us why several people are having the same/similar issue or stop wasting space.

said by blanka2k2 :

when i goto Azurues console i get these errors when a person disconnects from me.

Session Start: Mon Feb 21 18:55:06 2005
[06:55] ≡≡≡ Now talking in: (#bittorrent)
[06:55] MxxCon> hey folks
[06:56] MxxCon> quick question, when a leecher request a piece from another leecher, does it use same commands as when requesting a piece from a seed?
[06:57] DeHackEd> yes
[06:58] MxxCon> cool
[06:59] DeHackEd> there's no logical difference between them. just all the properties you'd expect from someone with 100% (never interested, etc)
[07:06] MxxCon> the reason i'm asking is that some people are saying cablevision is blocking upload requests when people seed, but not when they leech
[07:07] MxxCon> i'm trying to show to them that to ool request to seed or leecher will look the same
[07:07] MxxCon> so if they were blocking uploads, ALL uploads would be blocked..not only in seed mode
[07:11] DeHackEd> they'd have to track the protocol and keep session information, which would be "unrealistic"
[07:16] deltab> a seed is just a node that has all the pieces
[07:16] deltab> it has no special role in the protocol
[07:17] deltab> that's what make it a peer-to-peer protocol

said by Toolmanjoe :

Does anyone think its worth calling OOL over this? I think I ought to be paying less than $45 a month if they want to take it away from me. Also (I know, wrong thread) whats the best alternative, or my best option?

said by blanka2k2 :

ok let me clear this up a bit. A lot of people don't have problems downloading and uploading the same torrent at a time. This torrent can be downloaded from another source doesn't necessarily have to be a torrent you personally made. The problem comes in once you finished downloading the whole file meaning your at 100% The problem now is you become a seeder but cannot connect to any peers(leechers). only logical theory now is that OOL is implementing some sort of connection drop once a leecher requests a block to be send to them.

said by blanka2k2 :

I tried that today they reset my router and I am still having problems uploading to people when i am a seed. I have no problems at all uploading when I am downloading that file though. I am using azurues and tried different ports and still nothing dunno what to do its annoying at times.

said by mekonfuzed :

because they want their end users to use ool torrent client. just go to optonline.net and click on the essentials link on top.

said by Kerryman :

And profanity riddled insults are going to get them to change their policies how?

said by Irish Shark :

He calls OOL TS and says that his connection is terrible. Then he asks the tech to please reset the MODEM. The tech then downloads a new config file.

said by intocable7 :

i use bit-lord as my client.

said by intocable7 :

i been capped 7 times already and just use my lil tactic to get it uncapped without tech support returning a call.