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DaDogs Semper Vigilantis Premium join:2004-02-28 Deltaville, VA 3 edits	Brain Dead Stupid Easy to Understand People cheat. Given the opportunity 80 percent of gamers on line would cheat. That would push the rest to cheat... End result? No fun. Read the EULA and don't play if you don't like it. Never-the-less, for many games server side anti-cheat processing can be done. It does add overhead to the server but it is harder to defeat for the "limpers" who can't seem to get their rox off without cheating. Great discussion of using kinematics to catch cheaters in FPS games on the AAO forums. -- How can I improve my WiFi signal?
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Phil Rojo Sol Premium join:2001-06-11 Camarillo, CA kudos:2	said by DaDogs: People cheat. Given the opportunity 80 percent of gamers on line would cheat. That would push the rest to cheat... Yeah, people will always cheat, but your 80% is way over the top! I would put the percentage of cheaters at about 15%. -- Correcting one "looser" at a time.
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nonner9 join:2005-10-14 Charlotte, NC	reply to DaDogs Does the EULA for World of Warcraft mention the use of this program to inspect client-side processes running in memory? I've never read it, I just play the game... lol
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Frohike Premium join:2000-07-23 Waxahachie, TX kudos:4	reply to DaDogs I agree, read the EULA, its there. I saw it and agreed to it. I have no personal info on my computer so I definitely have no issues where that is concerned. If people have such a problem with it, /cancel your account and go play something else.
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Mac Bridger Late to the party Premium join:2001-01-11 West Newton, PA Reviews: ·Cricket Broadband ·Comcast	reply to Phil Regardless of the percentages, cheating ruins the game for everyone else. Has anyone played Diablo 1 recently? If you aren't hacked you die as soon as you enter a game. I applaud Blizzard for trying to crack down on cheating. -- One post kills threads dead.
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Phil Rojo Sol Premium join:2001-06-11 Camarillo, CA kudos:2	I agree with, but he was way off. Cheating can and does completely ruin games. It's beyond my how anyone gets satisfaction out cheating to win in a game... -- Correcting one "looser" at a time.
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DaDogs Semper Vigilantis Premium join:2004-02-28 Deltaville, VA	said by Phil: I agree with, but he was way off. Cheating can and does completely ruin games. It's beyond my how anyone gets satisfaction out cheating to win in a game... You are right 80% is pessimistic and 15% is optimistic... (15+80)/2 = 47.5 and that is realistic -- How can I improve my WiFi signal?
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Joe123456789 join:2003-11-24 Des Plaines, IL 1 edit	reply to DaDogs sounds like what star force does messing up others programs. how Long before those unauthorized third-party programs that do not effect the game in any are stopped and reported what about things that may be on the system that may used for cheating are messed like debugs and other tools are messed up even if you don't want to cheat.
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JoeOnSunset Doublethink Is Doubleplus Ungood. Premium join:2002-11-25 Ormond Beach, FL	reply to DaDogs Look, perhaps the users have no cause to sue, but that doesn't mean the company shouldn't be the subject of scorn for their evil behavior (to use Google's vocabulary). You can still rightly criticize a company for putting terms like that in their EULA in the first place! If Mirosoft did the same thing the kicking and screaming would be unbelievable. And, to wit, it's highly irresponsible for a company to do something like this. If you read more deeply, you find out that it's doesn't just look at the names of running processes, but also "sniffs email addresses [and] website URLs open at the time of the scan." This is rediculous. Blizzard has a reputation for unreasonable behavior to the end of fighting cheating, and doesn't seem to understand that two wrongs don't make a right. People should stop supporting a company that engages in these kinds of practices.
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Combat Chuck Too Many Cannibals Premium join:2001-11-29 Erie, PA	reply to Joe123456789 said by Joe123456789: sounds like what star force does messing up others programs. how Long before those unauthorized third-party programs that do not effect the game in any are stopped and reported what about things that may be on the system that may used for cheating are messed like debugs and other tools are messed up even if you don't want to cheat. Key differences being that since you have to have an account, blizzard doesn't really care if you're using an original cd or if you're running a debug program to figure out how to bypass the cd detection; and that AFAIK warden isn't installed as a driver that affects everything else even when the game isn't running. What they care about are things like programs that play the game for you so you can make in game money without actually being there. -- HOLY CRAP, LIONS!
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BIGMIKE Premium join:2002-06-07 Westminster, CA	reply to DaDogs You can't read the EULA before you open the software. You can't use the software if you don't agree to the EULA and you can't return the software if you've opened it.
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PhoenixDown -- Wants FIOS Premium join:2003-06-08 Fresh Meadows, NY kudos:1	reply to Combat Chuck Yet what good does it do... this obviously hasn't hurt the chinese farmers at all. -- We need more farms!
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Frohike Premium join:2000-07-23 Waxahachie, TX kudos:4	reply to BIGMIKE said by BIGMIKE: You can't read the EULA before you open the software. You can't use the software if you don't agree to the EULA and you can't return the software if you've opened it. Yes you can return it after you open it, as long as its within 30 days of purchase. So you can read the EULA, decide not to agree with it, then still return it.
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PhoenixDown -- Wants FIOS Premium join:2003-06-08 Fresh Meadows, NY kudos:1	reply to DaDogs Most stores I go to wont let you return opened software. I think you can get the refund directly from Blizzard but I'm not sure about that. -- We need more farms!
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Frohike Premium join:2000-07-23 Waxahachie, TX kudos:4	Yes that is what I am referring to- returning it directly to Blizzard.
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Candew join:2005-09-23 Ottawa, ON	reply to DaDogs I am with the "if you don't agree with their EULA, your free to cancel your account" crowd myself. Some folks don't have anything better to do with their time. It would be one thing if they used this program and said nothing about it whatsoever, however they stated quite clearly within their EULA that they do scan your system for 3rd party hacks. Much ado about nothing...
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DaDogs Semper Vigilantis Premium join:2004-02-28 Deltaville, VA 1 edit	reply to BIGMIKE oops
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DaDogs Semper Vigilantis Premium join:2004-02-28 Deltaville, VA	reply to BIGMIKE said by BIGMIKE: You can't read the EULA before you open the software. You can't use the software if you don't agree to the EULA and you can't return the software if you've opened it. Get that from the EULA did you?;) -- How can I improve my WiFi signal?
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Joe123456789 join:2003-11-24 Des Plaines, IL	reply to Combat Chuck said by Combat Chuck: said by Joe123456789: sounds like what star force does messing up others programs. how Long before those unauthorized third-party programs that do not effect the game in any are stopped and reported what about things that may be on the system that may used for cheating are messed like debugs and other tools are messed up even if you don't want to cheat. Key differences being that since you have to have an account, blizzard doesn't really care if you're using an original cd or if you're running a debug program to figure out how to bypass the cd detection; and that AFAIK warden isn't installed as a driver that affects everything else even when the game isn't running. What they care about are things like programs that play the game for you so you can make in game money without actually being there. maybe for now but they may want to use this for all of there games and maybe even add cd key stuff as well.
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TheSaint5 join:2002-01-25 Hanover Park, IL	reply to Phil I agree. There are a lot of honest players out there than enjoy good, clean fun. I would put the number below 10% at least in the game I play the most often: Americas Army. I won't speak for other titles. -- The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. --- Edmund Burke Kill your TV, then Internet Explorer: »www.mozilla.org
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