bmn? ? ?Premium,ExMod 2003-06
join:2001-03-15
hiatus | Hmmm.... So, Sprint/Nextel customers are going to be loosing their iDEN equipment which offered encrypted communications by default for a less secure CDMA technology... I wonder, is Sprint/Nextel going to offer some sort of encryption on its new network for these people or is the government now going to be the only group with access to encrypted wireless communications ?
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  GooberPremium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:4 | Re: Hmmm.... For a very long time Nextel has been wanting to move to a CDMA based systems because they were not pleased with Motorola being a sole source supplier of handsets. The move to CDMA is/was inevitable.
That being said, this could very well be a windfall for Motorola since they will then continue to be able to make proprietary high margin iDEN handsets, which business model was somewhat in jeopardy with the eventual and impending adoption of CDMA technology by Nextel. | |
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| Re: Hmmm.... Here is the basic run down. It looks like sprint is going to go ahead and use Kodiak Systems direct cell phone connection software,(no this is not the famous direct connect from nextel) Alltel happens to use it for it touch to talk and is faster than DC and offers more features. Cingular is using Kodiak for there system too if they ever come out for it. Sprints ready link system is a joke and can not offer transistion from one iden to cdma. Kodiak systems solution since it does work with both cdma and tdma based technology networks. (iden and gsm are both tdma based technology) It can slip into the exsiting network with out any nextel groupies knowing except for the fact that you could no direct connect with sprint customers with supported handsets. As contracts come up for renewl they will not give them iden/cdma hybrids as there will not be any as motorolla will not make a hybrid so nextel can dump there network and there overpriced iden phones to the street. sprint will sipmply swicth people over with out then realizing it, but with the kodiak system it wont be an issue. What would realy be nice if sprint started buying some of the newer cdma phones that took sim cards (there a number that have a optional sim card slot) and that way they could easily port over all there numbers. | |
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| | | | Re: Hmmm.... Dosent nextel or motorola own the patients to iden ??? | |
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| | | GooberPremium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:4 | Re: Hmmm.... Yes. | |
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| | | | | | Re: Hmmm.... As we've found out from other situations... (ie the optic coupler guy) govt projects are immuned from patent restrictions.. Thus why would it matter who has the patents. | |
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| | | | | GooberPremium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:4 | Re: Hmmm.... It's not a government project. iDEN was a Motorola funded and developed project from years ago. There were no government resources used.
So, Motorola's patents are valid and uncompromised.
By the way, government funded projects are not necessarily immune from patent restrictions. it's a little bit more complicated than that. | |
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| | | | | | | | Re: Hmmm.... iden is not a government project...
but the government's purchase of the entire iden network (should such a thing occur) would be a government project.
As for government use of patented materials:
The Government may use any patented invention without permission.
Granted the patentee is likely due some compensation, but the govt can not commit 'infringement'
But of course you'd have to bring suit against the government. who decides if you win? the government. who decides how much you get paid? the government. etc etc etc.
Also consider national security issues (where the patent is likely used in secret, or for secrets etc etc)=patent infringement without compensation.
The only complicated issue in government funded projects (I must assume you mean govt projects that soley make or accomplish something that is 100% for the govt) is whether the govt has extended their support of patent protection to the contractor or not (this isn't done 100% of the time, but quite often) in the case where they haven't, then the patent holder needs only bring suit against the company and not the govt. | |
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join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:4 | Re: Hmmm.... Let's just say that there's a little bit more to it than that. Anything involving the government is a fairly complex process. | |
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join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:4 | I thought the other carriers PTT systems were packet based and traveled over their data channels and so took longer to establish a contact and communicate. You're saying that Kodiak's system is faster than DC? Ouch for Motorola. | |
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| Re: Hmmm.... Goober,
Verizon and readylink by sprint are slower as they are still trying to do a voip link between phones. That is why verizons does not offer it any more.
The one big thing I like about kodiak is with my old nextel it was either direct connect was on or it was off. Alltel and touch to talk by kodiak systems acts more like a instant messanger in a since where I can on a per person basis turn off touch2talk. So i can allow my brother to get hold of me on the fly while my annoying freind will have to call me. | |
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| | | | GooberPremium
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
kudos:4 | Re: Hmmm.... That's a neat feature.
But you're right, I never realized it, but the other companies did quietly stop advertising their PTT (or Push To Wait, as I called them) offerings. | |
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| |  IridiumPremium
join:2003-04-02
Los Angeles, CA
1 edit | EDIT: I thought Sprint was going to use Qchat, I guess they will use Kodiaks RTX.
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